Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:Most Beast Wars fans are way past 30
ZeroWolf wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Height wise he should work fine with other CW bots if a bit taller, I always had to extend the legs on them to make them look proportionate with their elbow joints or just leave the vehicles compressed on the arms/legs for a stubby g1 look. Just had a quick play with my CW one and I still like it enough to keep it.
I still really don't like legacy drag strips design or that even with multiple upgrade kits he still looks bad but I'm kind of tempted to get this menasor.
If you're going to get it, make a decision quick before after market prices make it for you.
Sabrblade wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Just so that everyone is on the same page:
Transformers G1 1986 Menasor Gallery
Transformers G1 1986 Menasor Gallery
G1 toy: Leg cars faced backwards.
Nemesis Primal wrote:Leakers have been adamant that Armada Screamer and Jhiaxus share absolutely nothing this time around, Screamer is supposedly using engineering from the Starscream that was to be included in the "indefinitely postponed"/cancelled TF Rise figure 2-packs.Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:I'll wait for the inevitable retool... though I wonder who they can use the mold for that has not already been done recently.
The two prevailing theories seem to be Armada Thrust based on the shape and Armada Starscream who we know is coming in Legacy.
Overcracker wrote:The Jhiaxus mold seems completely separate to Armada Starscream.... seems unlikely they'd use that as basis, more so when SS has at least 3 repaints built in already that can cover the cost of a new mold.
Overcracker wrote:I can buy Armada Thrust since he was a different mold to SS, TC and RJ. But not sure they'd make him a Voyager. He's always been a deluxe even the original mold was a Mega (Armada's Deluxe class).
Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:I can buy Armada Thrust since he was a different mold to SS, TC and RJ. But not sure they'd make him a Voyager. He's always been a deluxe even the original mold was a Mega (Armada's Deluxe class).
Super was Deluxe in Armada (or Super-Con if you want to be specific). Anyway his wasn't originally my idea, I forget who made the observation first, but I also initially brushed it off and said Hasbro wouldn't do a Voyager of a character whose only two other transforming figures were both Deluxes, but after some thought I realized Hasbro hasn't done a Deluxe jet in a very long time (aside from Skytread and Sixgun for obvious reasons) so a new Thrust would almost have to be a Voyager.
Emerje
Overcracker wrote:Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:I can buy Armada Thrust since he was a different mold to SS, TC and RJ. But not sure they'd make him a Voyager. He's always been a deluxe even the original mold was a Mega (Armada's Deluxe class).
Super was Deluxe in Armada (or Super-Con if you want to be specific). Anyway his wasn't originally my idea, I forget who made the observation first, but I also initially brushed it off and said Hasbro wouldn't do a Voyager of a character whose only two other transforming figures were both Deluxes, but after some thought I realized Hasbro hasn't done a Deluxe jet in a very long time (aside from Skytread and Sixgun for obvious reasons) so a new Thrust would almost have to be a Voyager.
Emerje
You are correct. It was Super-Con. Mega was from the previous lines.
Anyway, the point stands. I just do't see how they can turn this Jhuiaxus into Starscream without major retooling. and Armada SS is no Optimus Prime to warrant such levels of retooling and new parts. The transformation isn't even close to what Starscream did. And they'd still need to add the over the shoulder cannons that flip down. with that amount of re-engineering, I'd say an entirely new mold is more practical.
Also, the Generationsdeluxe SS and Jhiaxus shared a lot including the transformation. Don't see how they can attempt to use this transformation for Starscream at all.
Kurona wrote:grimdragon2001 wrote:This image has me thinking that Legacy Menasor will be close to, if not the same height as CW Menasor. At least close enough to fit in with the CW combiners without any problems.
Since Legacy Menasor is shown here to be pretty much the exact same neck-height as Siege Jetfire, we can use previous Siege Jetfire comparisons to see how Menasor stacks up to CW combiners. He seems to actually come out very slightly taller; though I imagine if you have say CW Computron/UW Baldigus' feet or 3P feet, it'll be close to the exact same height. Not bad if you want to have him posed with Superion or Bruticus straight away!
optimeow wrote:
Hunting down all Stunticons is a chore I would rather not have.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
The designer clarified that he took those pics with two Motormasters, one forming the body of Menasor and one separate, just to show off size comparison.Evil Eye wrote:and Motormaster seems to be almost unnecessary to the combined form (at least if the pics are anything to go by).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The designer clarified that he took those pics with two Motormasters, one forming the body of Menasor and one separate, just to show off size comparison.Evil Eye wrote:and Motormaster seems to be almost unnecessary to the combined form (at least if the pics are anything to go by).
Evil Eye wrote:
Anyway, the thing that gets me about this Menasor is how little the components seem to contribute to the combiner. The armbots aren't too bad as at least they're fully visible but the legbots are hidden from view from most front angles, and Motormaster seems to be almost unnecessary to the combined form (at least if the pics are anything to go by). Call me old fashioned but I like my combiners to be made from the robots rather than just be...I dunno, piloted by them.
Sowndwave76 wrote:I don't see Legacy Menasor ever being a boxed set...
The price would be really close to $200, especially after taxes.
That is steep when you're talking action figures/toys.
I believe Will has already mentioned this and I don't want or intend to take it out of context,
but I agree with the idea that we're reaching a threshold where prices really are becoming a deterrent...
$200 is a lot for the average parent to spend on a toy.
It would never be a random purchase, and it's still not necessarily a purchase for Christmas or a birthday.
On top of this, it becomes a "never" type of situation if the parent knows the kid's want of said purchase is only a "maybe". Which makes total sense.
I've spent over $200 for one of my son's presents ONCE. Before and since then, no present has broke the $120 price tag, and even that's only happened once or twice.
But the thought that increasing/"too high of" prices matter, seems to be more and more true now, and across the board, not just with large toys.
It seems so absurd that I may end up paying right at $60 next year to get the last two deluxe G1 Insecticons (assuming those happen)...
Back to Menasor specifically, this may be a great set. Maybe even phenomenal...
But it goes without saying that it's a risk to push out a $200 toy into the mass retail market.
Don't even get me started on this new Metroplex...
I enjoyed getting the UW sets, but even those weren't $200.
And it's not that I'm against this happening for Legacy Menasor. I just don't think that's a risk Hastak is going to take.
Rtron wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:I don't see Legacy Menasor ever being a boxed set...
The price would be really close to $200, especially after taxes.
That is steep when you're talking action figures/toys.
I believe Will has already mentioned this and I don't want or intend to take it out of context,
but I agree with the idea that we're reaching a threshold where prices really are becoming a deterrent...
$200 is a lot for the average parent to spend on a toy.
It would never be a random purchase, and it's still not necessarily a purchase for Christmas or a birthday.
On top of this, it becomes a "never" type of situation if the parent knows the kid's want of said purchase is only a "maybe". Which makes total sense.
I've spent over $200 for one of my son's presents ONCE. Before and since then, no present has broke the $120 price tag, and even that's only happened once or twice.
But the thought that increasing/"too high of" prices matter, seems to be more and more true now, and across the board, not just with large toys.
It seems so absurd that I may end up paying right at $60 next year to get the last two deluxe G1 Insecticons (assuming those happen)...
Back to Menasor specifically, this may be a great set. Maybe even phenomenal...
But it goes without saying that it's a risk to push out a $200 toy into the mass retail market.
Don't even get me started on this new Metroplex...
I enjoyed getting the UW sets, but even those weren't $200.
And it's not that I'm against this happening for Legacy Menasor. I just don't think that's a risk Hastak is going to take.
Studio Series Devastator was rereleased on 2020 as a 260 usd boxset, so it wouldn't be that crazy from an antecedent standpoint. I don't live in the US so no idea how those prices jive with the average income there. All Transformers are ridiculously expensive where I live, lol.
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