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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby bigcee66 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:23 pm

Cyberpath wrote:I got Ultra Magnus today! Jeez, I knew he was going to be big but it was a bit of a shock taking him out of the box! He dwarfs every Transformer I've ever had, it's insane. He looks phenomenal in both modes! I don't know how they do it.


Anyone else notice that Takara omitted Red Alert from the the back of Magnus' booklet as well as the stop-motion video?

I hope it means they're planning to redo him closer to the cartoon model. In my opinion he wasn't retooled enough from Sideswipe, as Smokescreen was from Prowl. My guess is that back then Takara was uncertain about this line so the budget for Red was lower.

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Stop motion video??? :???:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Arctorro » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:24 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby shajaki » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:10 pm

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sol magnus wrote:I think Lio Convoy has one built in.
ehh... it might be called a matrix (not sure on the fiction) but its just a flap that opens on the chest, kinda like a BW TM spark crystal (but no crystal).

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2 MP01 Matrixes
1 MP10
The two that came with TRU MP Rodimus
And I believe I have one of those separate diecast ones.

And then there is the tiny one that came with THS02 Optimus, oh and Cybertron Leader Optimus, I believe that event fits with MPs if I remember correctly.
TRU roddy came with two matrix's? i HAVE him! i never noticed that...
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:07 pm

Received my MP-22 Ultra Magnus package in the mail today. The box is really heavy. Box seems to be the same size as the MP-09 Rodimus Prime box.

In a day or Two, I'll open the box, Then Transform the toy back and forth. Probably going to put the toy on my MP-01, MP-05 and KFC MP Citizen Stack display shelf.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:15 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:38 am

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shajaki wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I think Lio Convoy has one built in.
ehh... it might be called a matrix (not sure on the fiction) but its just a flap that opens on the chest, kinda like a BW TM spark crystal (but no crystal).

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Dead Metal wrote:I have
2 MP01 Matrixes
1 MP10
The two that came with TRU MP Rodimus
And I believe I have one of those separate diecast ones.

And then there is the tiny one that came with THS02 Optimus, oh and Cybertron Leader Optimus, I believe that event fits with MPs if I remember correctly.
TRU roddy came with two matrix's? i HAVE him! i never noticed that...

Yes, one that's MP01 esqu, as in it's the same size and has the same functions, but it's actually accurate to the movie, and a small one that fits in his chest.

And why are we actually counting molded on Matrixes? I wouldn't count them, since they're just part of the figure and not separate. Which is why I didn't count any of those in the first place.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:48 am

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Arctorro wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...

Ouch man, those are going to be agonizing 4 months, but hey, you'll get Star Saber on time!
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Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?

Blurrz wrote:10/10

Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:52 am

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Arctorro wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...

He'll be released in TRU AU before then!
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Dead Metal » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:59 am

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Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...

He'll be released in TRU AU before then!
(Maybe)

And maybe it'll just be a box housing one pissed of Koala.
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Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?

Blurrz wrote:10/10

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:06 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Arctorro » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:20 am

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Dead Metal wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...

Ouch man, those are going to be agonizing 4 months, but hey, you'll get Star Saber on time!
:lol: Any little bright spot, only way to survive the wait.


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Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...

He'll be released in TRU AU before then!
(Maybe)
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william-james88 wrote:So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:22 am

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Arctorro wrote:Open wound...
Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...

He'll be released in TRU AU before then!
(Maybe)
Salt :P


No salt. The English translation has been done. He IS getting released out here probably sooner than we expect (given BB's out now)

But the 4 month wait will probably save you $100.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:49 am

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:53 pm

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Just curious, now that he is out, do you find that he scales well with the others in Robot mode. Wasn't he just a tad taller than Optimus when we first meet him?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:06 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Just curious, now that he is out, do you find that he scales well with the others in Robot mode. Wasn't he just a tad taller than Optimus when we first meet him?
While I don't have the toy, I will admit that all images show the figure to be at least a head too tall compared to Optimus. But considering that the size they went with was to keep his truck more in scale with Optimus's, I'd say it was a necessary decision.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:54 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Just curious, now that he is out, do you find that he scales well with the others in Robot mode. Wasn't he just a tad taller than Optimus when we first meet him?
While I don't have the toy, I will admit that all images show the figure to be at least a head too tall compared to Optimus. But considering that the size they went with was to keep his truck more in scale with Optimus's, I'd say it was a necessary decision.

Or rather, it is the only decision that makes any logical sense.

Scale-wise G1 Ultra Magnus stands taller than G1 Optimus Prime the same as the masterpiece equilavents do from each other (with MP-10 being roughly the same size as G1 Magnus). One integrates the truck robot, the other integrates the truck. The "scale" on the cartoon (which is inconsistent at best, wonky at worst) can't be relied upon for "real world" accuracy, but scaling the trucks can. He can't be any taller or shorter (or much in either direction) and do all the things the truck is seen to be doing either as a toy or in animation - holding 4 cars at once on the commercial and riding side by side with Optimus (in Rebirth) and that's going by the animation. In the commercial animation Ultra Magnus seems much larger in robot mode than what it ends up as in the cartoon. Since he is never seen with Optimus Prime standing in the movie we can't go by that, either.

In Rebirth, Ultra Magnus is repeatedly shown as the same size as Optimus Prime, although he alternates being same size or taller than Rodimus Prime in many episodes of season three. All of that makes as much sense as Powerglide being a midget or Starscream being smaller than Optimus Prime.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:00 pm

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sol magnus wrote:The "scale" on the cartoon (which is inconsistent at best, wonky at worst) can't be relied upon for "real world" accuracy, but scaling the trucks can.
To be fair, the official scale guide Takara's using for the MPs does have Ultra Magnus being just a single head taller than Optimus, which the cartoon didn't get very far off from.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Arctorro » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:52 pm

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Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:Open wound...
Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:Mine should arrive in two weeks, I'm starting to think, I should have chosen a faster shipping method instead of being so cheap XD
At least you didn't combine him with Star Saber to save on shipping costs #-o Mine should arrive in about four months...

He'll be released in TRU AU before then!
(Maybe)
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No salt. The English translation has been done. He IS getting released out here probably sooner than we expect (given BB's out now)

But the 4 month wait will probably save you $100.
I didn't doubt what you were saying, seeing UM on shelves before mine arrives is the salt.

Btw, found one BB at my local TrU. Wasn't on the self with the other TFs, was on the floor a couple of isles away :lol: Just left him there and kept on walking.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Cyberpath » Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:56 pm

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, now that he is out, do you find that he scales well with the others in Robot mode. Wasn't he just a tad taller than Optimus when we first meet him?

It's pretty good. And very impressive, considering that Optimus = tractor; and Magnus = tractor + trailer.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:00 pm

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Cyberpath wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Just curious, now that he is out, do you find that he scales well with the others in Robot mode. Wasn't he just a tad taller than Optimus when we first meet him?

It's pretty good. And very impressive, considering that Optimus = tractor; and Magnus = tractor + trailer.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Burn » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:19 pm

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Arctorro wrote:Btw, found one BB at my local TrU. Wasn't on the self with the other TFs, was on the floor a couple of isles away :lol: Just left him there and kept on walking.

At $99 I don't blame you.

My BB is shipping with Magnus, Jetfire, Tankor, Whirl and Roadbuster. If I proportion the freight BB comes to $64.

Gotta love TRU markups! Given the Seekers were around $150AU, I really do shudder to think what Ultra Magnus will cost.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:26 pm

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Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:Btw, found one BB at my local TrU. Wasn't on the self with the other TFs, was on the floor a couple of isles away :lol: Just left him there and kept on walking.

At $99 I don't blame you.

My BB is shipping with Magnus, Jetfire, Tankor, Whirl and Roadbuster. If I proportion the freight BB comes to $64.

Gotta love TRU markups! Given the Seekers were around $150AU, I really do shudder to think what Ultra Magnus will cost.


About TRU, it's d@mn if you do or don't if you can't find the fig you want. It's the same in Singapore, HK and RP.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:44 pm

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Back to the figure.

Nice paint apps and plastic sheen. Tomy used the type of paint like that on MP 10's feet. The dull finish (mine's 2 years old) over the MP 01 glossy type seems to resist paint chipping.

The plastic has the character (matte?) similar to the TFA series. Though glossy shiny is my preference, this looks good on UM.

Diem iirc voiced concerns on how the shoulder connectors are kind of small to support the weight/mass of the arms, I agree and have some concerns too on the tabs that locks the folding carrier tray to the body.

Be very careful in untabing it. No accidents yet but this imo would be causing problems as the figure ages.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus Discussion

Postby Arctorro » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:22 am

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Burn wrote:
Arctorro wrote:Btw, found one BB at my local TrU. Wasn't on the self with the other TFs, was on the floor a couple of isles away :lol: Just left him there and kept on walking.

At $99 I don't blame you.

My BB is shipping with Magnus, Jetfire, Tankor, Whirl and Roadbuster. If I proportion the freight BB comes to $64.

Gotta love TRU markups! Given the Seekers were around $150AU, I really do shudder to think what Ultra Magnus will cost.
BB came to about the same price with shipping from HLJ. Going with nippon-yasan.com for the first time with UM and SS as their prices and shipping costs are a little less than HLJ.

As for the cost of UM at TrU Aust, he will probably be between $275 and $300.
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