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Postby Va'al » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:32 pm

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Via fellow Seibertronian ScottyP, we have news of an upcoming Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece figure, under the MP-38 numbering label: (another) Beast Wars Convoy! The subtitle appears to be, through machine translation - [Original コンボイ(ビーストウォーズ) 伝説の総司令官Ver] - Legendary General Commander Version, or Supreme Commander, as the title goes in the fiction. We have no images, and the source gives no indication as to whether this is a straight repaint, so feel free to let the speculation run wild! The figure is expected at the end of June 2017.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Legendary Commander Version)

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:36 pm

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You may know the 総司令官 (soushireikan) moniker better as "Supreme Commander".

As for this redeco: BWII Movie!
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Legendary Commander Version)

Postby Va'al » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:43 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:You may know the 総司令官 (soushireikan) moniker better as "Supreme Commander".

As for this redeco: BWII Movie!



Oooh good point good point!
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Legendary Commander Version)

Postby DestronMirage22 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:02 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As for this redeco: BWII Movie!


That would be interesting. :-?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:04 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Zeedust » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:31 pm

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:39 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As for this redeco: BWII Movie!
I thought that too. Though, not as Burning Convoy, but as the slightly more toy-accurate deco he had in that movie, as he was viewed in that movie as a Legendary Supreme Commander.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:48 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:As for this redeco: BWII Movie!
I thought that too. Though, not as Burning Convoy, but as the slightly more toy-accurate deco he had in that movie, as he was viewed in that movie as a Legendary Supreme Commander.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby RAR » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:49 am

Sounds like it's based on his appearance in the Beast Wars Second Movie to me - so it may be the clear red & gold deco

http://www.tfu.info/toytables/bw_optimusprimal.htm

But since the normal version is sort of like the CGI cartoon colours and the Japanese "Special Convoy" colours perhaps the black and white toy deco makes sense as an option too.

What I'd call "BlackJack" Optimus Primal personally.

It might be difficult to mould the rubbery parts in clear material if it is then the use of another solid colour would make some sense.

I like the toy but I have not bought it yet as I thought he was a bit overpriced.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby PeterPrime » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:24 am

Personally I hope for Transmetal Primal. One can always hope...
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby OptimalOptimus2 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:45 am

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PeterPrime wrote:Personally I hope for Transmetal Primal. One can always hope...

Make that two! :D Although I desire a Masterpiece BW Megatron more than any figure right now.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby wilcosu35 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:08 am

If it's a repaint, i'm not interested.

If it's an entirely new figure though....
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:41 am

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PeterPrime wrote:Personally I hope for Transmetal Primal. One can always hope...
If it were, then the toy's name would be solicited as "Metals Convoy" instead of just "Convoy".
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Overcracker » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:47 am

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wilcosu35 wrote:If it's a repaint, i'm not interested.

If it's an entirely new figure though....



No chance its a new figure. MP-32 Convoy was just released a few months ago. you expect an entirely new mold so soon of the same guy? With Cheetor coming out also?



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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby MrBlack » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:27 pm

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Zeedust wrote:Probably just Primal in Optimus Prime colors.

NOOOOOO!

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby GuyIncognito » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:31 pm

Optimal Optimus was a Supreme Commander, right?

http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Optima ... ptimus.htm
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:29 pm

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GuyIncognito wrote:Optimal Optimus was a Supreme Commander, right?

http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Optima ... ptimus.htm
All of Beast Wars Convoy's cartoon-based toys were Supreme Commanders in Japan.

But this toy is specifically ranked as "Legendary Supreme Commander".
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Seibertron » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:28 pm

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Why would this get a new number instead of a sub number in the series?
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Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:04 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Why would this get a new number instead of a sub number in the series?
That's a good question. Up until now, unique ID numbers were given to MPs that were both mass retail releases and separate characters, even if they reused a previous mold.

If this is a same-character mold reuse, then the non-exclusive mass retail status would be my only guess for it's getting a new number, but which would then have me questioning why it wouldn't be an exclusive if it's the same character from the same mold.
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Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:26 pm

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Digibash example (not mine) of what this could possibly look like:

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:39 pm

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I did a price check and the 12,000 Yen price is the same as the original MP-32 release. As that mold is the only one with that price, we can carefully consider MP-38 to be a redeco.

The new number is odd though, unless some certain parts were to be retooled like the head.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Emerje » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:49 pm

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Still seems strange that a repaint of the same character would be MP-38 rather than MP-32A or MP-32II or something. Price is exactly the same as well so it isn't some sort of premium version with extra parts (though maybe they swapped out the swords for the missing parts from MP-32).

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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:54 pm

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Wasn't MP-31 Delta Magnus given a new number despite the fact it was just a repaint of Ultra Magnus in his Diaclone colors?
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Emerje » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:12 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Wasn't MP-31 Delta Magnus given a new number despite the fact it was just a repaint of Ultra Magnus in his Diaclone colors?


Delta Magnus is a different character instead of being "Ultra Magnus, Delta ver." or whatever.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:20 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Wasn't MP-31 Delta Magnus given a new number despite the fact it was just a repaint of Ultra Magnus in his Diaclone colors?


Mostly a redeco, but it has different face plates, plus Marissa Faireborn instead of Spike and Daniel.
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