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Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:16 pm

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They have done such a good job here, I just wish it was more affordable.
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Postby wilcosu35 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:23 pm

I'm ordering him as soon as the preorders go live on HLJ, regardless of what he costs. Ordering 2 actually, because a friend also wants him. (same reason i've got 2 Dinobots on order).
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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:52 pm

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Ultimately he is a collectors item and as he isn't an army builder I'm not going to be buying twenty of him. So as a one off item, to complete my MP Beast Wars collection, I wouldn't think twice about buying him. Also strictly adhering to the Season One cast, he is the plateau, no one else even approaches his size and scale.
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Postby S.o.L. » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:16 pm

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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:26 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also strictly adhering to the Season One cast, he is the plateau, no one else even approaches his size and scale.
Inferno was a big dude.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:31 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also strictly adhering to the Season One cast, he is the plateau, no one else even approaches his size and scale.
Inferno was a big dude.



Indeed. Second tallest to Megs himself. However, in terms of bulk, they are worlds apart. The only one even approaching the broad scale of Megatron is Rhinox. HasTak would be aware of that, so the price can only come down from here... At least for the rest of the Season One cast. They couldn't charge anywhere near this price point for Blackarachnia, Airazor or Rattrap, for example.
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Postby william-james88 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:58 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote: HasTak would be aware of that, so the price can only come down from here...

Sure, instead of 300$ for the other figures, it would only be 200$
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Octobotimus » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:24 pm

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the fact this thing actually costs $300 is freaking ridiculous..... takara has gone too far with its pricing... considering 2 foot tall transformers with MP level transformation cost less than this, just shows how much of a ripoff it is.... I really wish this would underperform sale wise simply to teach them a lesson on not inflating the price just cause its a popular character.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby RotorstormNZ » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:56 pm

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The paint looks so much better than the magazine scans we saw a few days back, WOW!!!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby budmaloney » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:48 pm

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That is a beauty. I wonder if someone gets David Kaye to sign on this figure in beast mode, wouldn't that be a good collector's item. Or just the box. But seriously the eyes, the proportions. It's way above my budget, plus if I do get an MP it would have to be Primal first then this guy.
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Postby shajaki » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:09 pm

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:39 pm

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Octobotimus wrote:takara has gone too far with its pricing... considering 2 foot tall transformers with MP level transformation cost less than this

That sounds amazing! :shock: How did I miss this? That's definitely something I feel like I should have heard of! Do you have pictures? Who is it, when does it come out?

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:31 am

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Octobotimus wrote:the fact this thing actually costs $300 is freaking ridiculous..... takara has gone too far with its pricing... considering 2 foot tall transformers with MP level transformation cost less than this, just shows how much of a ripoff it is.... I really wish this would underperform sale wise simply to teach them a lesson on not inflating the price just cause its a popular character.


Much like how a camera adds 5 pounds, electronics like lights and sounds add $100 to any toy.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby President-prime » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:10 am

As much as I loved how dinobot and Megatron came out, I went back to my preorders and cancelled dinobot, and not getting Megatron. Man, I thought primal was expensive for animal transformers I do care about, but damn, it’s not getting any cheaper. Thought dinobot is the most they will go, so Preordered dinobot at over $250, and now saw Megatron for over $340 (with shipping). Forgetting. This hobbie is getting too expensive for me. So decided to re-evaluate my transformers spending, my new max spending is now under $160. No more Crazy expensive transformers and their rediculous prices.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Octobotimus » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:49 am

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Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:takara has gone too far with its pricing... considering 2 foot tall transformers with MP level transformation cost less than this

That sounds amazing! :shock: How did I miss this? That's definitely something I feel like I should have heard of! Do you have pictures? Who is it, when does it come out?

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to name the 2 foot figures, 2 3rd party omega supremes made by weijang and DX9 both cost less than this thing at 200-250,
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Octobotimus » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:52 am

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Octobotimus wrote:the fact this thing actually costs $300 is freaking ridiculous..... takara has gone too far with its pricing... considering 2 foot tall transformers with MP level transformation cost less than this, just shows how much of a ripoff it is.... I really wish this would underperform sale wise simply to teach them a lesson on not inflating the price just cause its a popular character.


Much like how a camera adds 5 pounds, electronics like lights and sounds add $100 to any toy.

considering that leader classes could fit electronics in and have great engineering yet be at 50 bucks or under, i call BS on this having an extra 100 bucks from electronics.... this is just takara riding off the popularity and trying to get as much cash out of its loyalists.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:10 am

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To be fair I think the omega supremes would be far easier to do then a screen accurate bw megs in both modes. Yes they should have dumped the electronics but for all we know, the Japanese go crazy for these gimmicks.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby wilcosu35 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:29 am

I think there's multiple reasons for why he costs what he costs.
First there's the size of him. He's significantly larger than Primal, in length, width and depth.
Alsmost as tall as MP-36 and with a large volume because of all the dino bits.
Second We don't know how complicated he is. For all we know, he has a very involved transformation. He appears to be very poseable and we can see that he has most of his dino body folded into panels on his back in lots of sections, whereas the Ultra had just 2 large flaps and a small one. More parts = more cost.
Third, he has a premium paintjob, going by his photos. I think you'll have to search for unpainted surfaces and it's a complicated paintscheme too, not simply single-colour. More and difficult paint = more cost
Fourth, he does come with electronics. And while he apparently has a light like Primal does, he also has a soundbox in his dino-head with a large selection of clips from the show etc. While leader-class toys have had sound, those were usually in the form of a large, boxy torso. With MP-36 they fitted it into his cannon, which was a good solution because it doesn't have to transform. Here they didn't have much of an option other than to cram it into the dino head along with the light, and if you want small size electronics it's going to be more expensive than when you have an entire torso for 2 AA batteries plus the other stuff. I should mention that i'm not a fan of the electronics, mostly because it's in japanese. I'd much have preferred David Kaye's voice or otherwise just the light.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:17 am

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So, seeing as how all they made Megatron the cornerstone under which all of the BW MPs are to be scaled, since he was the biggest of the Season 1 characters, it would seem that any Transmetal MPs are even more likely than before to NOT be on the table any time soon.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:23 am

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Octobotimus wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Octobotimus wrote:takara has gone too far with its pricing... considering 2 foot tall transformers with MP level transformation cost less than this

That sounds amazing! :shock: How did I miss this? That's definitely something I feel like I should have heard of! Do you have pictures? Who is it, when does it come out?

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to name the 2 foot figures, 2 3rd party omega supremes made by weijang and DX9 both cost less than this thing at 200-250,

I dont find those 2 to be MP level in complexity.
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Postby Amelie » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:42 am

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Octobotimus wrote:this is just takara riding off the popularity and trying to get as much cash out of its loyalists.


Yes and no. Takara\Hasbro only have a finite level of production capacity. The demand is high, but the supply has remained the same - so the price goes up. I don't call that squeezing, its just normal business practice.

At worst, I see this as Takara jumping the gun on eBay resale prices 6 months after the toy isn't available. Only its retail, so somehow it "feels" more painful.
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Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:49 am

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Octobotimus wrote:this is just takara riding off the popularity and trying to get as much cash out of its loyalists.


Yes and no. Takara\Hasbro only have a finite level of production capacity. The demand is high, but the supply has remained the same - so the price goes up. I don't call that squeezing, its just normal business practice.

At worst, I see this as Takara jumping the gun on eBay resale prices 6 months after the toy isn't available. Only its retail, so somehow it "feels" more painful.

Sorry, but that doesn't hold water when you compare it to the larger and more complex MP 36 Megatron, which cost $100 less.
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