Mykltron wrote:Surely it's not THAT hard to train monkeys... Is it? Maybe the monkeys were trained by monkeys who hadn't been trained properly.
G1Blaster wrote:Saying an album is ten times better than St. Anger is like saying you'd rather be hit in the head with a bat instead of kicked in the nuts.
decepticonjon wrote:^ and ^^ you guys are going to make ryan bring out his wooden spoon and spank your asses like an angry grandmother.
Mykltron wrote:Surely it's not THAT hard to train monkeys... Is it? Maybe the monkeys were trained by monkeys who hadn't been trained properly.
G1Blaster wrote:Saying an album is ten times better than St. Anger is like saying you'd rather be hit in the head with a bat instead of kicked in the nuts.
briggs wrote:tile_mcgillus wrote:Here is a G1 design transforming in motion and running...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMVTgnW1_Pw
Just a few guys did this...
Not saying it is the "end all, be all" but imagine if ILM went that direction.
In my opinion, no matter how much CGI power you throw at that, it will still automatically mind me of G1, cartoon. That's what they are trying to avoid.
It's great, but it's still a cartoon. A dog wearing make up and a dress is still a dog.
Devil Gundam wrote:briggs wrote:tile_mcgillus wrote:Here is a G1 design transforming in motion and running...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMVTgnW1_Pw
Just a few guys did this...
Not saying it is the "end all, be all" but imagine if ILM went that direction.
In my opinion, no matter how much CGI power you throw at that, it will still automatically mind me of G1, cartoon. That's what they are trying to avoid.
It's great, but it's still a cartoon. A dog wearing make up and a dress is still a dog.
Yes, they stated before that they didn't want them to look cartoony. IMO the transformers in said clip, while impressive, does look cartoony. We know TF's can work in CG, but the design has to be right. Look at the designs in Energon and Cybertron which looked like a cartoony. While I have no doubt G1 design would have looked impressive I don't see them blending in in the movieverse.
Anyway back on topic, the two designs Robinson posted are quite nice. I don't think they are the greatest designs in the world they are still impressive.
It is true it looks "cartoony" in that his face matches G1 style perfectly and I think that is what your talking about. That direction could have been successful. I am advocating a half way in the middle approach. Like Optimus's head. Where you still recognize the characters but they feel very real. Anyway, this debate is so old it is in diapers, adult diapers. The studio went one way. What matters is that this guy is a great artist and deserves our respect.
Devil Gundam wrote:It's not just the face, it's the sorta blocky design and it appeared that parts come from nowhere that looks cartoony to me. Looking back I have to agree with the decision to use the hyper detailed non-mass shifting designs. It looks more real and is visually stunning.
As for an in the middle approach, similar design elements can work as we saw in the color schemes of and designs of a few of the robots but in the end, I think they did a wonderful job.
Also I saw that fan art a while ago, The guy needs be on on the art department for the sequel, seriously.
tile_mcgillus wrote:Here is another great artist's rendition of the ever controversial Soundwave. The studio had him all over the place in the movie. I would personally LOVE to see Soundwave look like this in the next movie. Well done Tim Shinn!
Skowl wrote:tile_mcgillus wrote:Here is another great artist's rendition of the ever controversial Soundwave. The studio had him all over the place in the movie. I would personally LOVE to see Soundwave look like this in the next movie. Well done Tim Shinn!
I do enjoy Tim Shinn's work, but I don't like that Soundwave... he looks, well, boring. Nothing really interesting there. Besides, a truck - or any "driving" vehicle, just doesn't fit Soundwave, he was never a "on-the-road" character. He would work much better as a plan of some sort, I always though a stealth bomber...
Now, while I disagree with the direction chosen for the movie designs you can recognize the skill. This guy really is a genius artist and I for one appreciate his contribution.
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