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News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:04 pm

Maju Garzett wrote:I'm going to clear this up for everyone. They only announced that they are dropping Bluray for all movie titles. HDDVD will be their NextGen focus and they are still making DVDs.

So basically:
HDDVD: Check
DVD: Check
BluRay: Not a chance in hell.

Phew. Thanks for clearing that up. I was getting nervous then that I wouldn't be able to get it.

News Credits: 1 · by **oakleyswitch** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:09 pm

boo **** dreamworks/paramount and this hd bullshit..

News Credits: 32 · by **UltraPrimal** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:22 pm

I was kind of hoping it would come out for Blueray instead. It would give me another reason to buy a PS3. Shame I'll have to buy that stupid HD DVD add-on for my 360.

News Credits: 3 · by **wavelength** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:26 pm

i hope you lotare right about it coming out in bog standard flavour as well, otherwise i would support the uk getting shafted on the superior version for once

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:29 pm

Well at least its still on regular DVD. I was planing on re buying it on blueray when i got my PS3 but i guess i cant now. Oh well more money for me.

by **JesWal** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:33 pm

Thats crap! They cant do this to us!

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:35 pm

*sighs*

This was covered a while back.

It will be on both standard and HD format discs.

A single disc with commentary only will be available.
A 2-Disc special edition with features out the wazoo will be available.
A Next-Gen (HD-DVD now, instead of both) will be available.

No one except Blu-Ray enthusiasts are getting burned here, so anyone like me who has an older DVD player has no worries.

by **Klozminded-G1** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:37 pm

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:Ha Ha, Take THAT sony & your precious blu-ray!!!

Actually, both systems can fry in the obscurity of hell as far as I'm concerned. The PS3 is struggling in the market due to the RIDICULOUS price that Sony imposed on the POS b/c of the blu ray garbage that I couldn't give two fukz about.

Looks like DW, PM, etc are using the same heavy handed tactics to force people into supporting ridiculously overpriced machines in order to get their basic fix for entertainment...

I can't wait for this little arrogant marketing tactic to bite them in the asses.

Now to sit back and watch the profits fall as such a widely loved property becomes only available to a select few rather than the BROAD market. :grin:

Autobot032, I hope you're right, but the article(s) I've read have said squat about standard format, so I'm not holding my breath until I see some sort of official release saying otherwise.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:40 pm

dabattousai wrote:And when Blu-Ray wins the medal of being the next format after DVD, what will they do then?

I don't know...

but I do have a time machine which I use frequently to determine outcomes for potential failures. Quickly now, get the Beta Max up to 88 mph!

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:44 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
dabattousai wrote:And when Blu-Ray wins the medal of being the next format after DVD, what will they do then?

I don't know...

but I do have a time machine which I use frequently to determine outcomes for potential failures. Quickly now, get the Beta Max up to 88 mph!

by **Saberwing** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:55 pm

Maju Garzett wrote:It's only stating that the HD format is only HDDVD, it's still going to come out on DVD.

thank god! I almost had a heart attack reading the original post - i couldnt believe i wouldnt be able to get Transformers on dvd

News Credits: 3 · by **ShGarland_1383** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:11 pm

Can HD-DVD players be used with normal televisions, or do they require HD-TVs?

by **Quaternion** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:21 pm

I really love that movie but not enough to go out and by an HD-DVD player and HD-TV. I bet they will lose quite a lot of money on the DVD sales because of this.

by **frogbat** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:21 pm

not impressed. i don't like it when content providers are paid for exclusive content in a bid to win a format war (as that appears to be the case) especially now that the arrow tip was pointing in blu-ray's favour.

the lowering in price of hd-dvd's coupled with this news seems to bring them equal again. the short term winners in the end will be the hw manufactures who trot out dual format players. funnily enough - format wars is one form of competition which does not always benefit the consumer

by **starhorse** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:24 pm

Rodimist wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Rodimist wrote:Sounds like yet another pathetic ploy to get people to buy an X-Box 360. If it came out on Blu-Ray I would have been willing to buy a PS3. But sorry, it doesn't would this way. HD-DVD only is gay.
Doubtful. the X-box 360's HD DVD player is an add-on...it's not built into the system. People can play an X-box just fine without one, so I don't see how that could make people flock to the 360 when I'm sure there are several HD-DVD players that are under the $600+ it would cost to get a 360+ HD drive.

True, I may be a little bitter cuz I wanted to see it in 1080p. DVD is fine (and cheeper).

*sigh* If you're going to bash a type of technology you might want to actually know what you're talking about instead of using baseless and vague insults such as "HD-DVD only is gay."

Both Blue Ray and HD-DVD can display HD content in up to a 1080p resolution.

News Credits: 8 · by **Liege Evilmus** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:32 pm

Granted I'm converting everything I have to HD. It's a slow process, but it will be done by time this hits.

Still, I have to say it's a stupid move on there part. Not everyone has HD yet, more people don't than do, so go ahead, enjoy lossing your money on sales and rental opertunities.

I'm sure BlockBuster, and Netflix won't be picking up as many copies as normal since it's released on a limited format.

Also, get ready to pay alot for this, as I'm sure they'll try to recoupe those losses on you!

I will, get this set, but I'm also gonna pick up a bootleg out of spite now!

News Credits: 8 · by **Liege Evilmus** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:35 pm

ShGarland_1383 wrote:Can HD-DVD players be used with normal televisions, or do they require HD-TVs?

You can do it, but it looks like crap.

News Credits: 1 · by **Maju Garzett** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:40 pm

How many times to I have to tell you ****' people? I'm going to clear this up for everyone... AGAIN They only announced that they are dropping Bluray for all movie titles. HDDVD will be their NextGen focus and they are still making DVDs.

So basically:
HDDVD: Check
DVD: Check
BluRay: Not a chance in hell.

Even tfw2005 has it on their main page!

by **OptimusShr** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:44 pm

dabattousai wrote:And when Blu-Ray wins the medal of being the next format after DVD, what will they do then?

And who's to say Blu-Ray is going to beat HD-DVD? Or regular DVD for that matter? Just because the quality is superior doesn't mean either one will win. See Betamax vs VHS wars. Betamax had better quality but people had to buy new playeys to use it and it didn't have as much tape length as VHS.

While you don't have the tape length problem you do have the cost problem, everyone has DVD players already and the HD and Blu-Ray players and discs cost more.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:47 pm

ShGarland_1383 wrote:Can HD-DVD players be used with normal televisions, or do they require HD-TVs?

As far as I know, they can be used with normal TVs, but the definition content would definitely degrade in terms of quality. (Obviously.)

Last I checked, they all have: HDMI, Component and Analog outputs. (Older TVs and standard TVs can do Component and Analog.)

by **Loki120** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:23 pm

I'm already seeing the shift towards HD over Blu-ray in the stores...

However, I'm still not going to go through the problems of converting my collection yet again. Though I do have an HD tv, regular DVD does just fine for me.

I'm also not suckered into buying a half-grand gaming system because I can play a movie in it.

by **alpha4356** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:23 pm

As long as it's coming out on normal DVD I won't mind. If it isn't I'm screwed, because I don't have an HD DVD player.

News Credits: 10 · by **Lapse Of Reason** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:31 pm

Blu Ray gets Pirates, HDDVD gets Transformers. I like both, so either way I lose. Glad I have HDDVD though!

HDDVD also needs a major exclusive release like this if they are to survive. Since I went with HDDVD, I am glad the went this way. I do feel some pity for BluRay adopters.

by **Buttz** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:45 pm

From Michael Bay's formulaic direction to this HD DVD crap, Transformers the movie turned out to be a revolting example of Hollywood greed.

by **Versa** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:47 pm

Reported today at Thedigitalbits.com:

Well... the high-definition format war just got more confusing for consumers, and you can thank the hubris of the folks at Microsoft for it. Their HD-DVD format (because I'm sorry, can anyone really say it still belongs to Toshiba at this point?) badly needed a shot in the arm going into the holiday season, and just got it thanks to suitcases full of cash from the Microsoft camp. You ready for this? Here it is:

Microsoft has paid DreamWorks and Paramount so much money that they've decided to join Universal in the HD-DVD exclusive camp. No kidding.

None of the participants in this deal are willing to openly disclose just how MUCH money was exchanged, but the L.A. Weekly is reporting (based in part on a confidential report from media analysis firm Pali Research) that it was in the neighborhood of $50 million in "promotional considerations" for Paramount and $100 million for DreamWorks. I'm sure they're also getting lots of free or discounted VC-1 compression and HDi authoring services, along with prime placement on Xbox Live too. Is anyone else just disgusted by Microsoft's naked, shameless financial influence in this thing? That Hollywood is a greedy place should be obvious to all by now, if it wasn't already. The HD-DVD format can't win any other way than for Microsoft to PAY studios off to stay exclusive. And then they have the balls to claim the Blu-ray Disc camp is involved in antitrust violations. Wow.

Interesting, eh?

Further more in the article there is an official announcement copy from Paramount as well as some of this:

"Paramount Home Entertainment will issue new releases day and date as well as catalog titles exclusively on HD DVD. Today's announcement does not include films directed by Steven Spielberg as his films are not exclusive to either format."

How do you like THEM apples? Not exclusive to either format? Spielberg's decided his first film on high-def disc is coming out on Blu-ray Disc only. So what do Paramount and DreamWorks do? They bury that little factoid at the tail end of their press release. Nice. Okay, Spielberg hasn't made any kind of public statements to that effect that he supports only Blu-ray. But why then isn't Universal able to release any of his films on HD-DVD? Why then does this deal with Paramount and DreamWorks NOT include Spielberg titles? Because Spielberg wouldn't allow it is the only thing that makes any sense.

For the full article:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa141.html#dp