Transformers Nominated for 2017 National Toys Hall of Fame

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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby GuyIncognito » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:16 am

Deathsanras wrote:I'm somewhat inclined to let D&D have its victory, simply because Transformers is a pop culture mainstay, while D&D is culturally relegated to rose-colored memories. Even the Big Bang guys saw it as a quaint retro thing.
Basically, this is all D&D has. On a regular day, nobody's thinking about it.
Transformers deserves to win, but it has more going for it. Much more. And more opportunities for HoF membership.


You're thinking about D&D every time you watch Game of Thrones or Stranger Things, or playing any RPG video game, none of which would exist without D&D. I think you've got it completely backwards. D&D has had way more influence on pop culture. Transformers is the one that wouldn't exist today without nostalgia. Look at how we drool over Masterpieces and anything that's "G-1 accurate". Transformers has never been anything but Transformers, while D&D has spawned entire genres of entertainment.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Shauyaun » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:30 am

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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Megatron Wolf » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:29 pm

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With out the original D&D modern RPGs would not exist, as an avid gamer i wouldnt be to upset if transformers got beat by D&D. It might seem like some quaint little nerd game but it has influenced a hell of alot of stuff thats popular now.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Microraptor » Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:49 pm

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Deathsanras wrote:I'm somewhat inclined to let D&D have its victory, simply because Transformers is a pop culture mainstay, while D&D is culturally relegated to rose-colored memories. Even the Big Bang guys saw it as a quaint retro thing.
Basically, this is all D&D has. On a regular day, nobody's thinking about it.
Transformers deserves to win, but it has more going for it. Much more. And more opportunities for HoF membership.


Well i'm a high-schooler and I play some 4e with my friends every weekday, so no, it doesn't just have "rose-colored memories". I'd says something that has managed to stay loved and played for 43 years merits some recognition at the very least.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Deathsanras » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:49 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
Deathsanras wrote:I'm somewhat inclined to let D&D have its victory, simply because Transformers is a pop culture mainstay, while D&D is culturally relegated to rose-colored memories. Even the Big Bang guys saw it as a quaint retro thing.
Basically, this is all D&D has. On a regular day, nobody's thinking about it.
Transformers deserves to win, but it has more going for it. Much more. And more opportunities for HoF membership.


You're thinking about D&D every time you watch Game of Thrones or Stranger Things, or playing any RPG video game, none of which would exist without D&D. I think you've got it completely backwards. D&D has had way more influence on pop culture. Transformers is the one that wouldn't exist today without nostalgia. Look at how we drool over Masterpieces and anything that's "G-1 accurate". Transformers has never been anything but Transformers, while D&D has spawned entire genres of entertainment.


No, I'm not.
Am I thinking about Superman every time I watch Transformers Animated because they were going for a superhero theme? No.
Am I thinking about Gobots every time I watch G1 because Gobots got there first? No.
Am I thinking about Babbage's Computing Machine every time I use my iPad? No.
Am I thinking about Karl Friedrich Benz every time I go to get more beer? No.
Am I thinking about the cavemen and their sharp rocks whenever I'm slicing off a hunk of Turkish bread? No.
Am I thinking about the first oxygen breathing bacteria every time I breathe in and out? No.

Things can stand on their own, on their own merits.

Your logic is also faulty - D&D debuted in 1974. There were fantasy movies and stories prior to 1974. Just look up fiction about Hercules, Iliad and Odyssey, for example. Not to mention Tolkien's books (he died the year before D&D came out, BTW, so he probably wasn't influenced by it). Aren't you thinking about those films and stories when you're playing D&D? Actually, in this case, you are. The entire basis for understanding dragons and knights and magic users and castles and elves and gremlins and eskimos and all those other elements, as a text-based game in the absence of extensive visual media, relied heavily on the films, books, stories and mythology already established. Otherwise, how did you know what they were? Instead of giving away credit for the entire fantasy genre to D&D, perhaps you should recognise it already existed and people were already successfully doing stuff in that area? You don't think kids roleplayed knights and trolls and finding the magic McGuffin with their cardboard swords and oven-tray armor in their backyard prior to 1974? Which is the entire reason they chose that genre for D&D. Because it didn't require extensive explanation. What D&D invented was simply its game playing mechanics and a way to play fantasy dragon slayer once the sun had gone down. This is particularly evident given a D&D game can be set in the Wild West, in space on the USS Enterprise (any), in your neighborhood 50 years from now, Detroit in the 1920s, the world of MLP, the world of Alice in Wonderland, or anywhere.

Also, I don't watch or play any of those things so, also and still no.

I don't know anyone who plays D&D. I've asked people and they've been like "oh, I remember that, is that still around?"
I know plenty of people who saw the Transformers films and were annoyed at Michael Bay.
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Transformers Not Inducted to 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame, Beaten by D&D, Little People, Swing

Postby Va'al » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:09 pm

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You may remember our nudge for Transformers to be inducted into the National Toys Hall of Fame, back in September. The time to do so is now over, as the Museum of Play has announced its 2016 inductees - and rejoice! we beat the mighty bubble wrap!

...we also lost to Dungeons & Dragons, the swing, and Fisher-Price's Little People. Check out the full press release below, and gather your toy robots ready for next year's edition. We still function.

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2016 National Toy Hall of Fame Inductees Announced Today:
Swing, Dungeons & Dragons, and Fisher-Price Little People


ROCHESTER, New York—One toy takes its riders to new heights, and the other two let the imagination soar. The simple, ancient swing; game-changing Dungeons & Dragons; and the colorful, creative Fisher-Price Little People today became the latest inductees to The Strong’s National Toy Hall of Fame. The honorees were selected from a field of 12 finalists that also included: bubble wrap, Care Bears, Clue, coloring book, Nerf, pinball, Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Robots, Transformers, and Uno.

About swing: Ancient cave drawings in Europe, carved figures from Crete, and ceramic vases from early Greece document instances of humans on swings. In the 1700s, artists of French nobility depicted swinging as an amusement of high-born adults. By the 19th century, industrial processes made ropes and metal chains cheaply and in abundance. And almost anyone with a tree could fashion a swing for children playing in the yards of growing towns and cities. The playground movement of the early 1900s put swings in public spaces for children of nearby apartment buildings and tenements. The parks and playgrounds gave youngsters healthy places to grow and socialize in cities that were becoming increasingly hostile to play. In the mid-20th century, many Americans put freestanding, family-sized swing sets on their own sunny suburban lots. After the 1970s, public concern for children’s safety urged parents to replace the tubular metal sets for smaller swings of woods and resins suited to children of different ages and development.

“Though the equipment has evolved with the centuries, the pleasure children and adults find in swinging has hardly changed at all,” says Curator Patricia Hogan. “Swinging requires physical exertion, muscle coordination, and a rudimentary instinct for, if not understanding of, kinetic energy, inertia, and gravity. It’s the perfect vehicle for outdoor play.”

About Dungeons & Dragons: In the 1970s, serious war game players Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson added the concept of role-playing to the strategy games that they enjoyed and helped launch the modern role-playing genre. With Dungeons & Dragons (published first in 1974), they created an entirely new way to play. Taking inspiration, other firms published similar games built upon related mechanics but often employing different fantasy settings, from historic battlefields to outer space.

In Dungeons & Dragons, players assume the roles of characters that inhabit a world moderated and narrated by a Dungeon Master, a player who explains the action to others and solicits their reactions to the unfolding story. The Dungeon Master’s storytelling skills and the players’ abilities to imagine add enjoyment to the game. Some aspects of the play are familiar, such as dice, but the special dice for Dungeons & Dragons hold up to 20 sides. Rolling them determines each character’s individual strengths, plots their complex interactions, and decides the outcome of their encounters.

“More than any other game, Dungeons & Dragons paved the way for older children and adults to experience imaginative play,” says Curator Nic Ricketts. “It was groundbreaking. And it opened the door for other kinds of table games that borrow many of its unique mechanics. But most importantly, Dungeons & Dragons’ mechanics lent themselves to computer applications, and it had a direct impact on hugely successful electronic games like World of Warcraft.”

About Fisher-Price Little People: Fisher-Price first offered its Little People in a 1959 Safety School Bus pull toy. These stylized figures populated a variety of play sets that encouraged youngsters to explore the world beyond their homes and to imagine themselves at school or the airport, at the service station or the amusement park, and at the zoo or a faraway farm. Fisher-Price made the first Little People of wood and lithographed paper; solid, single-colored wooden bodies followed. Later figures were made of hard plastic. In the 1980s, concerns about the small figures becoming a choking hazard led to the 1991 introduction of a new design for larger diameter Little People known as “Chunky People” or “Chunkies.” By the mid-1990s, the Little People became more people-like with arms, legs, and dimensional faces.

Says Chris Bensch, The Strong’s vice president for collections, “Little People have been a fixture—albeit a small one—in many American playrooms for more than 50 years. More than two billion Little People have been sold since 1959, and they have helped generations of small children imagine big adventures in play sets representing farms, schools, airports, and other fascinating places in their worlds.”

About the National Toy Hall of Fame

The National Toy Hall of Fame® at , established in 1998, recognizes toys that have inspired creative play and enjoyed popularity over a sustained period. Each year, the prestigious hall inducts new honorees and showcases both new and historic versions of classic toys beloved by generations. Anyone can nominate a toy to the National Toy Hall of Fame. Final selections are made on the advice of historians, educators, and other individuals who exemplify learning, creativity, and discovery through their lives and careers. Toys are celebrated year-round in a state-of-the-art exhibit at The Strong museum in Rochester, New York. For more information about the hall and to see the list of previous inductees, visit toyhalloffame.org
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby MrBlack » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:31 pm

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It's hard to be upset when you lose to the swing.

Why had that not been inducted already?
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Kyleor » Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:53 pm

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I have to question how very loose their definition of 'toy' is if Dungeons & Dragons was included in their criteria at all. Maybe they need a name change to 'Playthings Hall of Fame'.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Emerje » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:13 pm

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MrBlack wrote:It's hard to be upset when you lose to the swing.

Why had that not been inducted already?


It's kinda crazy how long it takes some things to be inducted. I mean it took 11 years for them to induct the ball (2008).

And yes, this is more of a "plaything hall of fame", this is put on by the Strong National Museum of Play after all, toy just sounds better.

I wouldn't have been entirely surprised if bubble wrap did make in, it would be in good company with the cardboard box (2005), the blanket (2011), and the stick (2008).

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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Noideaforaname » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:45 pm

It always amuses me to see, within a sea of trademarked franchises, something as basic and timeless like a swing or a stick win.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Relic0037 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:18 pm

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Kind of baffling that some toy lines like G. I. Joe have been in for a long time & Transformers still isn't in. Whelp, theirs always next year....
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:03 pm

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pretty sure Stanger Things push with D&D Nostalgia fueled its entry. Also there could be some national prejudice, because after all the toys originate from Japan and not the U.S....just sayin' ;)
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Emerje » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:06 pm

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Hasbro does own Dungeons and Dragons so that's at least a victory for them.

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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Decepticon Stryker » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:05 am

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Yay! My first news credit! Also, I said it before and I'll say it again, bubble wrap is a stress reliever, not a toy. Though congrats to the toys that won.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Relic0037 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:46 am

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Z3ROhour wrote:yet another election in the toilet

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Transformers had over 12% of the Popular Vote. It must have lost in the Electoral College. :(
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Va'al » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:49 am

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You may remember how Transformers in 2016 was not admitted to the National Toy Hall of Fame, losing to the swing, D&D and Little People (see story here) - but the brand is actually back in the running for 2017, along with other 11 finalists such as Clue, the Magic 8 Ball, Matchbox Cars, My Little Pony, the paper airplane, Sand, and more. Check out all the finalists here: http://www.toyhalloffame.org/2017-finalists.

The following 12 toys are finalists for 2017 induction into The Strong’s National Toy Hall of Fame. Only two or three will take their honored places in the hall this year when they are announced at a ceremony at The Strong on Thursday, November 9, at 10:30 a.m.


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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Black Bumblebee » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:56 am

We're up against the likes of sand and My Little Pony.

Who makes these lists? lol
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Ig89ninja » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:20 am

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Black Bumblebee wrote:We're up against the likes of sand and My Little Pony.

Who makes these lists? lol

You know, I wouldn't mind too much if we lost to MLP.

Sand on the other hand...
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby kurthy » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:40 am

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So losing to the magic 8 ball. Probably losing toMLP and sand matchbox cars and paper airplanes, too.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Sigma Magnus » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:43 am

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Hopefully if they win, TFs will get a better exhibit at the Museum of Play. Last I checked, all they had was a G1 Prime, Hot Spot, and Topspin; and some Rescue Bots.
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby o.supreme » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:24 am

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2046 Hall of Fame....TF loses to Fidgit Spinners...maybe next year guys...maybe next year...
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2016 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Relic0037 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:56 am

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I don't see how they aren't in already. I know I may have some bias as a fan, but 1 animated theatrical movie, 5 live action movies, numerous comic books & animated series going back to the mid 80s....what more does a franchise have to do to get into a HOF?

If Transformers loses to sand this year, there must be a lot of voters that love going to the beach...
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2017 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby Sunburnninja » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:50 am

Last time I checked sand was a messy natural resource, not a toy, but whatever :-?
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Re: Transformers Nominated for 2017 National Toys Hall of Fame

Postby o.supreme » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:59 am

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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #188 - Mutinous Intent
Twincast / Podcast #188:
"Mutinous Intent"
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Posted: Monday, November 13th, 2017