william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:Does this mean Apple is entering the movie market?
They already did. Have you watched Wolfwalkers?
Nope.
william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:Does this mean Apple is entering the movie market?
They already did. Have you watched Wolfwalkers?
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
Stormshot_Prime wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
I mean, as a prequel to a series about a millennia long war, I’d be puzzled if there wasn’t some kind of political element to it. Intergalactic wars don’t just happen in a vacuum (wink)
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
So, you're going to see Cybertron in a way you've never seen it, that no one's ever seen it before.
"and how the common man doesn't have the voice"
"but I would say they're young men who are finding their path."
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
The whole premise of Transformers from the outset was an embittered Civil War. Although initially Sunbow dumbed down adjusted their series for kids, presenting this war in the simplest way possible. We are several decades passed that now. Objectively, in a conflict spanning millions of years, there is no "good vs. evil".
There is no sugar coating what a Civil War is. What it means. Just seeing the franchise at the base G1 level of "toys being smashed together" is naiveté to the very narrative of the source material. That's why Megatron: Origin worked. Why I think it would hit all the right notes for what this "unique" pitch wants to stretch into three films.
-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:First-Aid wrote:william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Why do I have a feeling this is going to devolve into a political statement movie?
It will have politics for sure, it's been part of the brand for a long time. Whether or not it triggers you will depend on you.
I understand that completely. The original G1 cartoon was good vs evil, freedom vs domination. Eventually they added the aspect of freeing from slavery (the QUintessons). That said, my worry is that it's going to be OVERLY preachy, trying to sell the viewer on the views (whether left or right) of the writer/director/producer and thus destroy the quality of the entertainment.
The whole premise of Transformers from the outset was an embittered Civil War. Although initially Sunbow dumbed down adjusted their series for kids, presenting this war in the simplest way possible. We are several decades passed that now. Objectively, in a conflict spanning millions of years, there is no "good vs. evil".
There is no sugar coating what a Civil War is. What it means. Just seeing the franchise at the base G1 level of "toys being smashed together" is naiveté to the very narrative of the source material. That's why Megatron: Origin worked. Why I think it would hit all the right notes for what this "unique" pitch wants to stretch into three films.
First Aid talked about the woke/cultist politics like every isms under the sun, pronoms shenanigans, and weird sex stuff. Those are way too current year and USA centric. If those are in, these will make a cringe and bad movie.
The universal politics like civil war, defending freedom, corruption, betrayals, all those things that are part of stories told since millennia are UNIVERSAL and can stand the test of time. Usually, such stories, in the hands of competent writers who have actual life experience, can become classics that can remain relevant forever.
There's around 10000 years of written and told stories that proves it.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
-Kanrabat- wrote: Those are way too current year and USA centric.
First-Aid wrote:Ironhide being a card-carrying NRA member
-Kanrabat- wrote:Some Bolshevik
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Some Bolshevik
At least try to be original. I'm so very tired of reading the same thing over and over from you regularly.
-Kanrabat- wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Some Bolshevik
At least try to be original. I'm so very tired of reading the same thing over and over from you regularly.
Too bad you can't seem to accept basic truths and common sense.
Just get out of your comfort zone and look at the past year's biggest success VS the biggest flops just on the movie front.
Also, look at the movies that remain popular even decades after they are out. There's a common thread that link all of these successes. Meaning prioritising UNIVERSAL VALUES and ENTERTAINMENT.
What's so hard to understand about that?
-Kanrabat- wrote:Just get out of your comfort zone and look at the past year's biggest success VS the biggest flops just on the movie front.
-Kanrabat- wrote:This is getting nowhere and having a dialogue de sourd is pointless. I said my opinion, you said yours, and that's that.
Now let's move on.
Rodimus Prime wrote:As was said before, as long as it doesn't get preachy. I like backstory that IDW came up with for Pax and Megatron, my main concern is hopefully some other characters (mainly Shockwave, Magnus and Grimlock) will also be spotlighted.
As for the political debate, most (if not all) wars begin with political debates devolving into violence, regardless of what the subject is. I don't expect it to be different here.
william-james88 wrote:good stuff
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