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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:51 pm

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:I find these more worthless personally. At least with previous TM's I could ignore them cos they weren't based on characters I cared about but these? They is spitting on my Pretender dreams. :(


FYI ... I accidentally clicked "edit" on your post instead of quote, hopefully I restored your post as best as I could!

I feel the same way. I keep telling the brand team that I want Pretenders. They probably think I'm crazy. But I really want to see the Pretenders done with modern toy technology, whether it's the traditional concept for with a modern action figure type "shell" with inner robot, or with an "inner" robot that can transform into a vehicle AND becomes armor to upgrade the action figure "shell" character (in lieu of fitting in an actual shell). I really don't care about the robot actually being able to go inside a "shell" as long as the robot somehow can "hide" away by either integrating inside of the shell or by becoming an upgrade set for the "shell". I quoted the word "shell" because I'm referencing the humanoid shell character/figure versus the inner robot character/figure.

I think someone will come up with an exciting way to redo these characters at some point that will honor their heritage properly. The Pretenders really struck a chord with me on many levels from their introduction in the comics, to being the first mainline concept to be excluded from the Hasbro cartoons (excluding Mini-Spies and Decoys), to just really inspiring me as a kid. I loved playing with them and I loved having 2 toys in one. I even used to count them as 2 separate Transformers in my figure count when I was a kid. My mom wouldn't let me spend my Christmas and birthday money on Fortress Maximus, but she let me buy all 6 of the wave 1 Autobot and Decepticon Pretenders. While I was disappointed with not getting Fort Max, I loved playing with my Pretenders as a kid. Imagine my joy 7 years later in 1995 when I discovered Masterforce thanks to a bootleg VHS dealer at a comic convention!


To be perfectly fair, matryushka doll-like figures like our Pretenders can be hard to deal with on a marketing level, as with everything said and done, you'd effectively be buying two figures for the price of one as you stated. However, Engineering is a different thing, and one that should not be taken lightly as depending on how the "storing" is done, the "Shell" can be either sturdy, or very fragile.

The G1 Pretenders had the inner robots fold up, and stored in a central cavity with arms. That can be extended to arms + legs with modern technology. That works beautifully with full joints from the get go.
Now, having the "shell" limbs integrated with the robot limbs, that's asking for trouble. Bandai's Gordian used that principle and as a result, in addition to using metallic blue plastic that suffers from "Popy Disease" (precursor to our GPS), is fragile, due in part to having hollow limbs with (thin) joints on the outside. I haven't heard of any problems with it's successor Soul of Chogokin GX-39 Baikanfu, with a similar system however, but that's a high end collectible with better materials.

In short, Pretenders can be redone, all it takes is something to make the idea appealing, and the right designs to make them last.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby bodrock » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:09 pm

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I've seen some wicked custom Pretenders before, but would love to see a true modern update from HasTak themselves. That said, I enjoyed hunting the G1 originals down last year, and I get a lot of enjoyment out of them, despite the lack of articulation and the age of the toys themselves (GPS, mottled plastics, etc.). I'm still looking forward to getting them all, mainly because I like using the Prime cores as heads....and using the shells as weapons for their G1 counterparts.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby gothsaurus » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:49 am

I have to say, I think Hasbro nailed it choosing to create small Pretenders. Having a main line that comes across like bloated, stiff he-man figures is an awkward product to market and sell.

These come across as roughly human sized compared with the other robot figures, and have a lot of playability being targetmasters and 'matrices". Great to get some of the monster characters without them seeming awkward being giant humanoid shells. These just have a good feel at the small size.

But better than that, I think the play pattern could have more uses... that it could be implemented in future lineups as the monster shells for Dinoking and Monstructor small robots?? I'd buy some dinosaurs and monsters with tiny robots inside.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Black Hat » Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:15 am

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Personally I'm of the opinion that a straight redo of the Pretender gimmick on a mainline Hasbro budget would not work well unless they made the actual robot components Micromaster sized. Because really for a modernized Pretender to work it'd need much better poseability than just the arms- at least Marvel Legends level.

I can see three ways of doing them:

1: Modular, snap-on armour pieces as opposed to a full "shell", like Beast Hunters did with Shockwave and Smokescreen...except hopefully better.

2: Make them regular Transformers but with influences from the shells in both modes (see ROTF Bludgeon, 2010 Skullgrin etc).

3: As above but homage the gimmick by making them TR compatible. A tiny robot controlling a bigger, more powerful body makes sense after all. Alternatively, make them non-transforming action figures (like a Marvel Legend) that instead of a regular head has a TR-style headmaster, or alternatively a Titan/Prime Master style figure that sits in a little cockpit in the chest.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby gothsaurus » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:14 pm

Hey. Yeah, that's a decent option. The character with all the personality transforms — like 2010 Skullgrin — but has a tiny figure to go in the cockpit. I'd take that.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Galactic Prime » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:21 pm

Pretenders were a stupid concept that need to stay dead.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Hotconvoy » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:27 pm

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Galactic Prime wrote:Pretenders were a stupid concept that need to stay dead.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:13 pm

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Hotconvoy wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:Pretenders were a stupid concept that need to stay dead.

And what do you think that Primemasters are?

I think he knows that.

I would love to see the return of pretenders, especially now that we have better engineering at our disposal. That's why I love these prime masters (and hope we can complete the set of 12 since we all know they'll never make a prime master for the thirteenth, considering his identity; -)) They are just so fun to mess around with
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:44 pm

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I don't need traditional pretenders, but, since warden has a boner for everything G1, I'm sure we'll be seeing them soon enough, I think they could work with upscaled primemaster shells with additional articulation in the arms with a legends class figure inside, they've easily been the best size class throughout recent years, and this way it wouldn't break the bank or require ridiculous engineering like the mp king exkaiser set ;)^
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:42 pm

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While on the subject, it seems my mother-in-law has found my 3 Prime Masters and actually thought they looked cute. She has a bit of a thing for Matryoshka dolls, so that may be partially why.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Skritz » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:59 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't need traditional pretenders, but, since warden has a boner for everything G1, I'm sure we'll be seeing them soon enough, I think they could work with upscaled primemaster shells with additional articulation in the arms with a legends class figure inside, they've easily been the best size class throughout recent years, and this way it wouldn't break the bank or require ridiculous engineering like the mp king exkaiser set ;)^


I'm still waiting for updated Actionmasters. Mostly Banzaitron. Even if I'm not sure if we'd see them as proper AM or just updated as regular figures.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Emerje » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:40 pm

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I would love a new Banzaitron figure that's not a repaint of something else. He's way to cool of a character to receive nothing but exclusive repaints. That's to say nothing of all the neat looking characters that didn't even get that much like Skyfall, Rollout, Over-Run, Sprocket, Gutcruncher, Powerflash, Charger, and Windmill.

Just kidding, not Windmill. :lol:

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Postby bodrock » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:31 am

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I missed out on the G1 Powermasters, and with PotP, I now have Blackwing & Dreadwind -- together, at last.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby william-james88 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:52 pm

bodrock wrote:I missed out on the G1 Powermasters, and with PotP, I now have Blackwing & Dreadwind -- together, at last.
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They look great with the New Seekers from TR. :CON:


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Transformers Power of the Primes Wave 3 Deluxes Found in New Zealand Plus In Hand Pics of Blot

Postby william-james88 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:04 pm

New Zealand seems to be the hit place of 2018 for new Transformers sightings. They are now the first country to get the third wave of deluxes from Power of the Primes. This wave includes Sinnertwin, Blot and Cutthroat. These have been found at Toyworld in the city of Aukland and while Toyworld usually happens to be pricier than non specialized outlets, these were priced at $27.99 NZD which comes out to about $20 USD, which is the MSRP for these figures. Several sightings were reported on TFNZ and one of the site's members, python5003, posted in hand images of Blot on Photobucket (which we mirrored below).

Now, while this may seem early, which is it, it should be noted that the wave 2 deluxes have yet to be found in New Zealand (and is not commonly found in other parts of the world). Wave 3 is scheduled to hit stores in summer so don't expect these to hit the US tomorrow. We thank westjames/notirish for sending this news out way.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Wave 3 Deluxes Found in New Zealand Plus In Hand Pics of Blot

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Brakethrough » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:26 pm

Well now I need to buy TWO Blots because that magnificent frown is getting turned into an IDW Crank Case.
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Postby bodrock » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:26 pm

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The TERRORCONS!!!! I can't wait to hunt 'em down.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:42 pm

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby KVO Prime » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:02 am

I've finally figured out what Blot's alt-mode is. He's a Krogan!! :twisted: :michaelbay:
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:32 am

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Now I see what everyone was raving about Blot's hands.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Hotconvoy » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:11 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Do we know who's in the other figure slot(s) of Wave 3? I assume it's a repack (or two) from a previous wave.

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:35 am

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That blot looks amazing, loving his claws, can't wait for more pictures. Especially the in hand pictures of abominus
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Postby Black Hat » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:18 am

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Blot continues to look like the standout figure of POTP. I needs him even if I don't get the rest of the Terrorcons (which I want to).
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Postby SureShot18 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:06 am

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I’m at a weird spot with the Terrorcons. I really dig the looks of Rippersnapper and Blot but the others are pretty bland in my opinion. My gut(and wallet) says it’s all or nothing but I may still get those two.
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