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william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.
I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.
I think there is some confusion as to the strategies being used to fix the end of line syndrome.
Its not making the final wave mostly repacks that is being referred to, its the strategy of having only 4. Regardless of the final wave beign repacks or all new figures, its the fact that there are 4 waves total and not 6 that really helps us here. When a line lasts longer than a year (so six waves), you lose the incentive of retailers ordering the last wave for 2 reasons:
1. they already have a bunch of stock from the same line they still have to sell
2. at 6 waves, the line isnt new anymore and retailers live off the idea that new stuff sells better (and that media backed stuff sells more, but thats another story)
So by reducing it to a yearly thing, retailers can order all 4 waves, not dreading the idea of beign stuck with last year's line still on the shelves and not selling, plus they are less likely to have overstock from previous wave build up.
So I am pretty sure thats what Seibertron was referring to with the strategy currently being used to help the distriution issues they are reading about.
o.supreme wrote:one other thing. I'm starting to visit Walgreen's again, when I have a chance, casually before or after work on my commute. PotP Wreck-Gar's I've noticed are starting to show up on eBay, with a couple are US sellers, so while no official sighting has been reported yet, I have a feeling he may be out there soon, if not already.
Glarryg wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.
I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.
I think there is some confusion as to the strategies being used to fix the end of line syndrome.
Its not making the final wave mostly repacks that is being referred to, its the strategy of having only 4. Regardless of the final wave beign repacks or all new figures, its the fact that there are 4 waves total and not 6 that really helps us here. When a line lasts longer than a year (so six waves), you lose the incentive of retailers ordering the last wave for 2 reasons:
1. they already have a bunch of stock from the same line they still have to sell
2. at 6 waves, the line isnt new anymore and retailers live off the idea that new stuff sells better (and that media backed stuff sells more, but thats another story)
So by reducing it to a yearly thing, retailers can order all 4 waves, not dreading the idea of beign stuck with last year's line still on the shelves and not selling, plus they are less likely to have overstock from previous wave build up.
So I am pretty sure thats what Seibertron was referring to with the strategy currently being used to help the distriution issues they are reading about.
All I know is that it's September and I've barely seen anything from Wave 2 in any of the local stores. I've ordered all the figures I want from Waves 3 and 4 (and part of Wave 2) online; we're far enough past the halfway point of the year that, if I haven't seen even half of what's supposed to be in stores this year, I figure all bets are off.
Glarryg
Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better!ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
william-james88 wrote:Glarryg wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Seibertron wrote:While this doesn't necessarily mean distribution will be good, it does raise the possibility to happen! This could be good news for those on the lookout for Novastar, as well as possibly lending credence to the idea that Hasbro's new four-wave system does result in (at least marginally) better distribution.
I get that Hasbro is trying to get rid of the "end of line syndrome" by making the final wave or assortment of a line mostly of repacks from earlier so there is a better chance that every unique character gets on the shelves before stores stop ordering more product. However, how does putting in a sole new figure in the last wave help that figure get better distribution at all? It's still creating scarcity because of a hugely flawed distribution system, just for a smaller selection of figures now. Why not completely exclude new releases from the final assortments? This business with Firestar and, before her, Slugslinger, seems kind of half-assed and self-defeating.
I think there is some confusion as to the strategies being used to fix the end of line syndrome.
Its not making the final wave mostly repacks that is being referred to, its the strategy of having only 4. Regardless of the final wave beign repacks or all new figures, its the fact that there are 4 waves total and not 6 that really helps us here. When a line lasts longer than a year (so six waves), you lose the incentive of retailers ordering the last wave for 2 reasons:
1. they already have a bunch of stock from the same line they still have to sell
2. at 6 waves, the line isnt new anymore and retailers live off the idea that new stuff sells better (and that media backed stuff sells more, but thats another story)
So by reducing it to a yearly thing, retailers can order all 4 waves, not dreading the idea of beign stuck with last year's line still on the shelves and not selling, plus they are less likely to have overstock from previous wave build up.
So I am pretty sure thats what Seibertron was referring to with the strategy currently being used to help the distriution issues they are reading about.
All I know is that it's September and I've barely seen anything from Wave 2 in any of the local stores. I've ordered all the figures I want from Waves 3 and 4 (and part of Wave 2) online; we're far enough past the halfway point of the year that, if I haven't seen even half of what's supposed to be in stores this year, I figure all bets are off.
Glarryg
I never said anything about these being found in pysical stores, I only spoke about retailers buying them and making them available. Novastar being available on amazon is as good as anyone would hope in this day and age since even Amazon had skipped final waves in the past (TLK Cogman, RID Heatseeker, CW Skylynx). At least in this line, that first problem is officially solved. You forget how bad it was. It wasnt just that toys were not found in stores, its that nobody in the US could actually buy them from anywhere aside from e-bay sellers. To this day, no US retailer of any kind has ever stocked RID Legion Cyclonus and Heatseeker nor the final RID minicon weaponizers. Those have officially been skipped by the entire nation. That is not the case with POTP where you were able to get all these toys online at MSRP and we probably have this new 4 wave system to thank for it.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better!ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
Skritz wrote:Has Optimal Optimus been sighted at retail yet, especially in Canada? I'm getting some mixed info on the matter.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Skritz wrote:Has Optimal Optimus been sighted at retail yet, especially in Canada? I'm getting some mixed info on the matter.
He has been spotted in Canada. I don't think we have a US sighting yet
Rodimus Prime wrote:Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better!ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:-Image snipped-
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
1984forever wrote:As far as deluxe go, I’ve never seen anything in stores past POTP wave 1. I’ve even seen a few chains restock wave 1 as late as July. I’ve given up looking. It’s just so much easier to buy stuff from scalpers on eBay. No time wasted, no gas wasted, and you can get a figure in hand not long after it hits the pegs somewhere in the world.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better!ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:-Image snipped-
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
I don't own the Energon Saber tho, just the Star Saber and Vorpal Saber (Hasbro version). Does the Energon Saber hold together any better? The Star Saber is a bit flimsy because of the short pegs on Jetstorm, especially the one that connects to Sonar.
Patrickab7 wrote:First Novastar sighting in the St. Louis area: Two of them here at Brentwood Walmart.
Nemesis Primal wrote:This might just be a personal thing because I have no interest in Novastar, but for me it really stings that the US now has the only new figure in Wave 4, and yet we still don't have Optimal Optimus yet. This is ridiculous, is it really that hard to finish a wave before putting out the next one? Cause it shouldn't be.
...I just want my munky.
I disagree. My Energon Saber is sturdy and solid, it's never come apart since I've owned it. And that's been like what, 13 or 14 years? I do agree that Star Saber is kinda flimsy, but its redeco, Dark Saber, is also a solid piece.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better!ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:-Image snipped-
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
I don't own the Energon Saber tho, just the Star Saber and Vorpal Saber (Hasbro version). Does the Energon Saber hold together any better? The Star Saber is a bit flimsy because of the short pegs on Jetstorm, especially the one that connects to Sonar.
The Energon Saber and its redecos aren't any better I'm afraid. I will say that fire- and ice-colors go really well with anything Dino
Emerje wrote:1984forever wrote:As far as deluxe go, I’ve never seen anything in stores past POTP wave 1. I’ve even seen a few chains restock wave 1 as late as July. I’ve given up looking. It’s just so much easier to buy stuff from scalpers on eBay. No time wasted, no gas wasted, and you can get a figure in hand not long after it hits the pegs somewhere in the world.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just get a Prime account and stalk Amazon? Everything has appeared there at retail prices in good numbers with lots of restocking on most waves. The exception being Prime Masters, Amazon sells wave 2 and 3 itself at $10-$13+ each for some crazy reason. I've yet to find either wave in stores.Maybe I would have been better off getting them from HTS and paying the high shipping.
PotP is the first line that I've bought almost as many figures online as offline because of Walmart and Target being completely unreliable.
Emerje
Rodimus Prime wrote:I disagree. My Energon Saber is sturdy and solid, it's never come apart since I've owned it. And that's been like what, 13 or 14 years? I do agree that Star Saber is kinda flimsy, but its redeco, Dark Saber, is also a solid piece.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Not a bad idea! I think the Energon Saber would fit even better!ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:-Image snipped-
What do people think of the Star Saber as a sword for Volcanicus?
I don't own the Energon Saber tho, just the Star Saber and Vorpal Saber (Hasbro version). Does the Energon Saber hold together any better? The Star Saber is a bit flimsy because of the short pegs on Jetstorm, especially the one that connects to Sonar.
The Energon Saber and its redecos aren't any better I'm afraid. I will say that fire- and ice-colors go really well with anything Dino
As for Novastar, I found her 2 weeks ago at the Walmart I work at. There were 2 of her, I got one for myself and the other for someone else on this board. Haven't seen her since, anywhere. I do like her, she makes a good limb and she's a great figure on her own. Honestly all the G1 fembots could have used this mold, even Elita, instead of making her a torso.
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