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ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know that reads to me like it was always the plan to have power of the primes line to be short, and to almost be a "best of" feel.
Guess we'll never know the full truth though. Imagine the outcry though if the Prime Masters were always designed to only have eight at normal retail
Wolfman Jake wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Munkky wrote:I have almost everything I want from the Power of the Primes toyline now, the only thing I still want is the Throne of the Primes Optimal Optimus (which I've pre-ordered from In Demand Toys) and possibly maybe Repugnus. So here's a quick summary of each figure I got from PotPie and my thoughts on the line overall:
In the end, I'm not 100% satisfied with PotPie as a toyline, while it did give us some good toys, there are a LOT of thing I would have done differently (releasing those cancelled Leader Prima and Megatronus toys for one thing...). I'd say it's my least favourite of the three Prime Wars toylines, but that's mainly because Combiner Wars and Titans Return were so great.
90% agree with you.
Nitpicking on my part
1. Optimus. Hate the hollow shins of Orion and the unpainted fist of the "Optimus" armor. WTF? Rodimus got painted fist and Optimus none?
2. Dinobots. I haven't transformed them yet to Volcanicus. Wish the combiner gimmick was ditched and all of them were kept voyager sized.
3. Elita and S/S feet, too big.
4. Why no Diver/Waverider Primemaster? The 'con PM shells outnumber the Autobots
5. Wished Metalhawk was painted gold. (Inner bot)
6. P/CP Voyager size preferably ( I know he's just the same sized as the original (hence nitpicking)
I've got a few nitpicks for your nitpicks!![]()
Getting all give Dinobots at voyager scale is just never going to happen. That's too many voyager slots, which are already very limited in any Transformers line, dedicated to one group. Hasbro wants variety on the shelves, so turning Swoop, Snarl, Slag, and Sludge into Deluxe combiner limbs makes a lot of logistical sense for Hasbro.
I'm assuming that you wanted the Prime Master inside the Metalhawk decoy armor to be painted gold, right, not the decoy armor itself, which is pretty much G1 acurate the way it is. The Prime Master inside is supposed to be the spark of Vector Prime, so I guess he's blue, not gold. If you want something for the inner robot of G1 Metalhawk, there's always the Titans Return version from the Chaos on Velocitron box set. Pair him together with the Power of the Primes Metalhawk Prime Master. You can even put TR Metalhawk's Titan Master in the PotP Metalhawk decoy armor and kick Vector Prime to the curb (or just find another use for him). In fact, I wish the Pretenders had been done as such, with Deluxe (or Voyager) sized inner robots, with Titan Master heads, that fit inside decoy armor based on the G1 outer shells, that convert into weapons to be held by the proper robots.
Why would you want Punch/Counterpunch to be Voyager sized? That's out of scale with the G1 cartoon AND with the rest of the toys. He turns into a car, so he should be a Deluxe figure like ALL THE OTHER CARS in Generations. He wouldn't be a very good "spy" if he turned into a GIGANTIC sports car that's not even street legal.
I feel like I might have possibly seen such a pic on another site, but I can't quite recall for absolute certainty.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:On a different subject, I just had a belated thought. Has anyone done Starscream combined with the Combaticon limbs?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
fenrir72 wrote:3. P/CP. Size, though never implemented in the anime but for the original toy, Punch was just a deluxe sized bot while Counterpunch was "supposed" to be a Voyager or a somewhat different scale to differentiate him. Check how the original G1 was "mistransformed".
Wolfman Jake wrote:fenrir72 wrote:3. P/CP. Size, though never implemented in the anime but for the original toy, Punch was just a deluxe sized bot while Counterpunch was "supposed" to be a Voyager or a somewhat different scale to differentiate him. Check how the original G1 was "mistransformed".
I still don't understand what you're referring to. Is this some sort of discarded idea from the R&D of Punch-Counterpunch from the G1 days? Forget not being implemented in the cartoon/anime, it wasn't implemented in the toy either, so why would they do that now? That's a very weird nitpick that a modern version of a G1 toy didn't incorporated an aborted and never produced idea from over 30 years before.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:fenrir72 wrote:3. P/CP. Size, though never implemented in the anime but for the original toy, Punch was just a deluxe sized bot while Counterpunch was "supposed" to be a Voyager or a somewhat different scale to differentiate him. Check how the original G1 was "mistransformed".
I still don't understand what you're referring to. Is this some sort of discarded idea from the R&D of Punch-Counterpunch from the G1 days? Forget not being implemented in the cartoon/anime, it wasn't implemented in the toy either, so why would they do that now? That's a very weird nitpick that a modern version of a G1 toy didn't incorporated an aborted and never produced idea from over 30 years before.
The Punch form of the G1 Double Spy toy was to supposed to have a different leg transformation, leaving the rear at a 90 degree angle and flipping out Counterpunch's feet, instead of sliding back and folding it all out. See the inset:
With this transformation, Punch is the same height as the traditional Autobot Cars, with Counterpunch the size of the larger Decepticons. This is shown on his instruction art and box art.
Funnily enough, this is the only instance in which Hasbro actually cared about scale
Wolfman Jake wrote:Somebody probably thought better of that idea, luckily, as that alternate configuration for Punch looks terrible. The proportions are ridiculous. I'm glad cooler heads prevailed. Still, why would anyone want PotP Punch-Counterpunch to be "Voyager" sized to emulate a failure of an alternate transformation scheme that Hasbro abandoned?
Wolfman Jake wrote:fenrir72 wrote:3. P/CP. Size, though never implemented in the anime but for the original toy, Punch was just a deluxe sized bot while Counterpunch was "supposed" to be a Voyager or a somewhat different scale to differentiate him. Check how the original G1 was "mistransformed".
I still don't understand what you're referring to. Is this some sort of discarded idea from the R&D of Punch-Counterpunch from the G1 days? Forget not being implemented in the cartoon/anime, it wasn't implemented in the toy either, so why would they do that now? That's a very weird nitpick that a modern version of a G1 toy didn't incorporated an aborted and never produced idea from over 30 years before.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:fenrir72 wrote:3. P/CP. Size, though never implemented in the anime but for the original toy, Punch was just a deluxe sized bot while Counterpunch was "supposed" to be a Voyager or a somewhat different scale to differentiate him. Check how the original G1 was "mistransformed".
I still don't understand what you're referring to. Is this some sort of discarded idea from the R&D of Punch-Counterpunch from the G1 days? Forget not being implemented in the cartoon/anime, it wasn't implemented in the toy either, so why would they do that now? That's a very weird nitpick that a modern version of a G1 toy didn't incorporated an aborted and never produced idea from over 30 years before.
The Punch form of the G1 Double Spy toy was to supposed to have a different leg transformation, leaving the rear at a 90 degree angle and flipping out Counterpunch's feet, instead of sliding back and folding it all out. See the inset:
With this transformation, Punch is the same height as the traditional Autobot Cars, with Counterpunch the size of the larger Decepticons. This is shown on his instruction art and box art.
Funnily enough, this is the only instance in which Hasbro actually cared about scale
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know that reads to me like it was always the plan to have power of the primes line to be short, and to almost be a "best of" feel.
Guess we'll never know the full truth though. Imagine the outcry though if the Prime Masters were always designed to only have eight at normal retail
Yeah, thats how i read it too. It helps us know why its shorter than the others but it doesnt give any credence to the fan theory that it was cut short.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:On a different subject, I just had a belated thought. Has anyone done Starscream combined with the Combaticon limbs?
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know that reads to me like it was always the plan to have power of the primes line to be short, and to almost be a "best of" feel.
Guess we'll never know the full truth though. Imagine the outcry though if the Prime Masters were always designed to only have eight at normal retail
Yeah, thats how i read it too. It helps us know why its shorter than the others but it doesnt give any credence to the fan theory that it was cut short.
It doesn't help that they didn't answer the second part of the question. They explained why it was shorter, but they didn't answer the second half about if that had been the plan from the start or if it was sudden. So really it doesn't answer either way which theory is true.
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:...but a blue bot carrying an orange gun while the orange bot wields the black gun makes for a better color contrast that the orange bot wielding the orange gun).
Sabrblade wrote:And I think I'm gonna use it for just that purpose, as a big ol' honking twin-barreled laser gun for Punch, while Counterpunch uses the smaller orange gun so that the Prime Armor can be worn on Counterpunch's back as a jet pack, to enhance his Decepticon disguise not only by covering up the brightly-colored Autobot torso on his back but also enabling him to fly in robot mode like any Decepticon from the cartoon could (while the smaller orange gun will be worn on the back of Punch instead as just a sort of back adornment).
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I don't know that reads to me like it was always the plan to have power of the primes line to be short, and to almost be a "best of" feel.
Guess we'll never know the full truth though. Imagine the outcry though if the Prime Masters were always designed to only have eight at normal retail
Yeah, thats how i read it too. It helps us know why its shorter than the others but it doesnt give any credence to the fan theory that it was cut short.
It doesn't help that they didn't answer the second part of the question. They explained why it was shorter, but they didn't answer the second half about if that had been the plan from the start or if it was sudden. So really it doesn't answer either way which theory is true.
Emerje
The compromise is that the original plan may have been a full 1.5 year, but before final implementing and bugdeting it was shortened to a mere year. It all depends on when the supposed change, if any, was made: before production, or during. Who knows?
william-james88 wrote:I am still way more curious about what happened with those TR box sets.
william-james88 wrote:I am still way more curious about what happened with those TR box sets.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Got c/cp, he's cool, really feels like a leftover t30 figure, but even with the shoulder fix and folding down his panel, mine still has a tough time tabbing the windscreens together to the hood
Crosscheck wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Got c/cp, he's cool, really feels like a leftover t30 figure, but even with the shoulder fix and folding down his panel, mine still has a tough time tabbing the windscreens together to the hood
Are you making sure to flip the Decepticon logo piece down first?
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Crosscheck wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Got c/cp, he's cool, really feels like a leftover t30 figure, but even with the shoulder fix and folding down his panel, mine still has a tough time tabbing the windscreens together to the hood
Are you making sure to flip the Decepticon logo piece down first?
yeah, thats not the issue
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Crosscheck wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Got c/cp, he's cool, really feels like a leftover t30 figure, but even with the shoulder fix and folding down his panel, mine still has a tough time tabbing the windscreens together to the hood
Are you making sure to flip the Decepticon logo piece down first?
yeah, thats not the issue
Don't forget my patented Transformers Hug©®™ that'll help massage the pieces together.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
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