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I think what people are failing to see is the pretender shell homage in Starscream's design.

Starscream angry. Starscream SMASH

Nexus Knight wrote:

Dagon wrote:The combiner pegs are clearly visible, so are we thinking Dreadwind and Darkwing will be able to combine with Combiner Wars torsos?

The Rodimus is pretty neat, but I'm not sure that I need to get it. I do like the idea a lot, though, so we'll see.

Man Starscream, what are you doing.

As one can clearly see, he's been working out.

Kurona wrote:Starscream angry. Starscream SMASH

Let's face it. I love this design, mostly because it looks like a bruiser. I want an entire line of big bulky bots.
(Warning head cannon incoming)
Imagine they landed on a planet with super high gravity and needed to use thicker alloy to survive.

ExciKaiser wrote:Wow, I'm so much unimpressed by all this.

The gimmick looks unfun and useless contrary to titan returns.

"the not-head can become the matric inside the torso". What's the point ?


Are they keeping some announcements/reveal for later which will change how boring I see the thing ?

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Am I idealizing my memories of Titan return launch so much ? or the begining of this line really looks catastrophic ?

- useless gimmick : Titan masters had a role : heads. Not things to store uselessly in a torso like here.

Y'know, I kind of agree? It's like: "Hey, guys, there hasn't been a convention in months, so we've got a lot to reveal! No, just kidding, here's 9 figures that don't look great with a new gimmick thats not nearly what it was cracked up to be."
Like, not to have a negative outlook or anything, but man is this a let-down. I remember last SDCC being amazing, with huge reveals and lots of them, but this year, it's really just meh at best. Beachcomber is great, but that's about all that does it for me, which is pretty sad.

Maybe it's all a conspiracy to sell more Hascon tickets. "Disappointed? Come to OUR convention to see the cool stuff."

LE0KING wrote:I want an entire line of big bulky bots.

So you'll be happy as you'll get a line where all voyagers will be repaints of this one as the differents seekers.

If you were tired of the 3 torsos retooled 548 times in combiner wars, please welcome power of prime, where all torsos will be absolutely identical.

Bronzewolf wrote:
Like, not to have a negative outlook or anything, but man is this a let-down. I remember last SDCC being amazing, with huge reveals and lots of them, but this year, it's really just meh at best. Beachcomber is great, but that's about all that does it for me, which is pretty sad.

I just checked back the 10 first pages of Titan returns thread, and it's clearly not the same ambiance.

AH! This is what Starscream reminds me of! These old Playskool star wars figures I had when I was younger. Huge feet and hands, just awful proportions.

PLS LET IT BE!!! RODIMUS PRIME WITH A TRAILER!!!!

YESSSSS!!!! RODIMUS PRIME WITH A TRAILER!!!!

ExciKaiser wrote:

LE0KING wrote:I want an entire line of big bulky bots.

So you'll be happy as you'll get a line where all voyagers will be repaints of this one as the differents seekers.

If you were tired of the 3 torsos retooled 548 times in combiner wars, please welcome power of prime, where all torsos will be absolutely identical.

I would laugh sarcastically, but you're probably right.

Mechastrike wrote:PLS LET IT BE!!! RODIMUS PRIME WITH A TRAILER!!!!

That's the only thing approximately ok from what we saw.

Damn, I hope hasbro reads the comments on internet.

Seriously, starting a new line with 4 years old repaints.. they learned nothing from G2 ?

...I'm not judging this line yet. I mean, hell, even Starscream is growing on me. Stuff looks a lot better in-hand in more natural and organic poses...and let's face it, conventions and renders can give us some pretty bad poses. But so far, I like what I see. I don't care about Roddy's backpack either, because I don't display my figures facing the wall.

Sigma Magnus wrote:.. I don't care about Roddy's backpack either, because I don't display my figures facing the wall.

This.

And Starscream seems to me has some other feature in that bulky exterior we have not been told about. There's got to be a reason for that.

mazingaspidey wrote:I think what people are failing to see is the pretender shell homage in Starscream's design.

Not really the Pretender shell has slim arms with spiked knuckles - and is also green.

This one has some slight similarities with the wing shape and the way the crotch and chest window goes - but in general it's more IDW Starscream than it is Pretender Starscream (either part) I can't really see anything from the Actionmaster either.

If I was to be a loathsome person i'd say it's more of the same only smaller same old design flaws in a smaller package and with boxing gloves and power pack boots on.

I don't totally hate it - I'm just puzzled by it - perhaps it was designed by the same person who did a similar thing to CW Prime.

Mechastrike wrote:YESSSSS!!!! RODIMUS PRIME WITH A TRAILER!!!!

Even his robot mode has a trailer!



Yes, I keep posting this. It warrants the attention.

Overcracker wrote:And Starscream seems to me has some other feature in that bulky exterior we have not been told about. There's got to be a reason for that.

He's a combiner wars torso. It's not even a secret. (it could have been if they didn't show these 30th repaint of aerialbot limbs).


And it'll probably transform the exact same way as Silverbolt, I hope you weren't tired of the 28 already existing remolds of this torso.

The problem with Hot Rod combining with a trailer to become Rodimus Prime is he still looks like Hot Rod but with a big useless backpack.

Burn wrote:The problem with Hot Rod combining with a trailer to become Rodimus Prime is he still looks like Hot Rod but with a big useless backpack.

I still see some unused hinges on the backpack. I have some (extremely small) hope that it can become some sort of base mode when disconnected from the deluxe bot.

Should we start speculating on which Prime will get which dude to "carry their Sparks"? Or is that just as stupid as it sounds aloud?

Personally I think dismissing Darkwing and Dreadwind as Aerialbot repaints prevents you from seeing the positives they do have and realising they do actually look like decent figures, but hey, I guess positivity just isn't fashionable these days.

Kurona wrote:Personally I think dismissing Darkwing and Dreadwind as Aerialbot repaints prevents you from seeing the positives they do have and realising they do actually look like decent figures, but hey, I guess positivity just isn't fashionable these days.

In any other context,yes.

But for a new line launch, you can't repaint 4 years old molds. It's giving a terrible message.

It's G2 launch.

ExciKaiser wrote:

Burn wrote:The problem with Hot Rod combining with a trailer to become Rodimus Prime is he still looks like Hot Rod but with a big useless backpack.

I still see some unused hinges on the backpack. I have some (extremely small) hope that it can become some sort of base mode when disconnected from the deluxe bot.

But then it's just Hot Rod with a trailer base. ugh ... this gets worse and worse!

I appreciate the extra hinges they put on Dreadwing so his front wings can hings back to merge better with the rear ones (not done in the images seen so far).

I wonder what is anything Rodimus' Trailer actually does - if it turns into a base that would be something - I don't expect much from it though.

ExciKaiser wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:
Like, not to have a negative outlook or anything, but man is this a let-down. I remember last SDCC being amazing, with huge reveals and lots of them, but this year, it's really just meh at best. Beachcomber is great, but that's about all that does it for me, which is pretty sad.

I just checked back the 10 first pages of Titan returns thread, and it's clearly not the same ambiance.

I for one think the line and premise looks great. You can't please everyone all of the time. The gimmick seems like the natural evolution of the last two, especially considering that there seem to be some "secret combiners" in the mix. The prime masters will look great in overlord as well.