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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:14 am

Looks like Cindersaur has some "What gender?" issues in some online chat rooms. I sympathise, I get mistaken for the opposite one all the time. My overall behaviour doesn't help, despite the plumbing :lol:

Seriously tho, the female ones for Cindersaur do seem to come from the Slash template, as a couple of her cards do use "she" and "her", like the Prima and Micronus ones. Tracking and fixing them, well... we're dealing with 12 cards per character here.

ScottyP wrote:
Quantum Surge wrote:I feel like it was carried over from Slash by mistake, given how Cindersaur is a repaint of that character.
Wouldn't be the first mix up

(Don't Tech Spec me, I'm going with their generally associated abilities)

It may seem odd, but let me give you some snippets from the Marvel Transformers Universe bios:

Windcharger
Windcharger is the fastest Autobot of them all - for short distances. He can go from 0 to 60 mph in automobile mode in almost no time whatsoever, and that makes him useful in certain situations requiring very fast, very decisive action.

Tailgate
In car mode, Tailgate can go as fast as 180 mph under his own power with a range of 600 miles. But a powerful ferrocobalt magnet under his hood allows him to be pulled by and within a few feet of any vehicle he chooses to follow, reducing his own fuel expenditure to nearly zero.

What do you guys think?

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:16 am

As others have pointed out. The writing of the Bio's on the PotP Trading Cards are some of the laziest one liners ever conceived, errors have been popping up, no need to assume anything more than that, given how little care was taken into making these.

However...since wave 3 has started to be available in some places, has anyone seen any fan mode integration of Cindersaur with Abominus? I've looked online for pics or videos but haven't seen anything yet.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:18 am

truegrit wrote:
It Is Him wrote:Cindersaur is gender fluid. It’s official now.

This seems appropriate

5/5

News Credits: 639 · by **ScottyP** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:20 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It may seem odd, but let me give you some snippets from the Marvel Transformers Universe bios:

ScottyP wrote:(Don't Tech Spec me, I'm going with their generally associated abilities)

by **Microraptor** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:22 am

If I'm not mistaken, that makes them the first gender fluid transformer ever! Which is neat.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:22 am

ScottyP wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:It may seem odd, but let me give you some snippets from the Marvel Transformers Universe bios:

ScottyP wrote:(Don't Tech Spec me, I'm going with their generally associated abilities)

I didn't think Tailgate as a powerful accelerator, he's just fast. Like Bowser on Mario Kart given enough time.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:28 am

@cindersaur with Abominus- did anyone come up with an intergration of slash and volcanius?

@Cindersaur bio, sounds like the designers are letting the individual customers decide. I'm all for letting people decide how they want to be addressed. It ultimately makes no difference to me on how I treat them. That's decided by what kind of people they are (e.g. do they kick puppies? Then they are monsters)

News Credits: 6 · by **Sarahthecutevixen** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:29 am

Microraptor wrote:If I'm not mistaken, that makes them the first gender fluid transformer ever! Which is neat.

IDW arcee.

by **Hydrargyrus** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:57 am

On Cindersaur: I think it’s just that one or more people (writers) got confused as to what gender Cindersaur was supposed to be, given that it’s a classically male character with a female mold. Maybe multiple people didn’t communicate before submitting, or one person simply forgot what they had written on a previous card. Given previous blunders with Slash’s card translations, it’s far from unlikely.

also, just because you don’t believe something/something isn’t real doesn’t mean other people don’t believe it. Sometimes there are simply things that are worth mentioning, regardless of their nature.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:05 am

ZeroWolf wrote:@cindersaur with Abominus- did anyone come up with an intergration of slash and volcanius?

Yes. There are 2 I've seen (probably more). The most popular seems to make Slash a "Backpack" of sorts by plugging slashs dino hands into 2 holes on the back of Grimlock's shoulders as Volcanucus. The other folds Slash into an upside down rectangle and she kind of dangles as a necklace around Grimlocks Dino-head in Volcanicus mode. I personally like the backpack better as it is more stable. There may be others as well, those are just the 2 more prominent ones.

Because Hun-Gurr/Abominus is a different mold, Cindersaur wont work for either of those, I was just wondering if some creative fan had come up with something else.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:08 am

I had no idea people were so compassionate about the cards. I throw them away with the packaging. They dont even leave the section the placed in.

News Credits: 53 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:14 am

Do we know when/where the new Blast Off is getting released?

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:16 am

Randomhero wrote:I had no idea people were so compassionate about the cards. I throw them away with the packaging. They dont even leave the section the placed in.

There are varying degrees. personally, I'd sell them on eBay, but my son likes having them for the art (dosen't care about the bio's). Having 12 of each, has created a niche group however that is obsessed with getting them all, which I can understand, I'm odd when it comes to other things such as numerology and symmetry in Transformers. The Bio's themselves are completely nonsensical however and I pay them no mind.

This isn't like the effort Bob Budiansky took to write bio's for the first 24 Transformers ever over a weekend. Think about it. There are *roughly* 40 Transformers in this line, with 12 cards each, that's 480 cards. You give 50 interns an hour to come up with 10 phrases each, that's about as much effort as I see that was placed into making these bios, and would certainly account for the errors.

by **ciano** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:17 am

I want this so bad, when and where is it coming out? Bruticus is my favorite CW style combiner so far, and I really liked the fact that they made Blast Off into a vehicle that actually exists, but this is going to be a lovely capstone to the collection.

by **Short Circuit** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:34 am

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Do we know when/where the new Blast Off is getting released?

I pre-ordered him from robotkingdom a bit ago and received him yesterday.

News Credits: 379 · by **Bounti76** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:39 am

TrypticonCarne wrote:
Microraptor wrote:If I'm not mistaken, that makes them the first gender fluid transformer ever! Which is neat.

IDW arcee.

She's transgender, though, not genderfluid. She once identified as male, but came to realize that that was not being true to herself, and then began to identify as female and did so after Jhiaxus.

If she went back and forth between identifying as male and female, she'd be genderfluid, but has only identified as female for the last several million years, at least in IDW G1.

by **ciano** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:51 am

Short Circuit wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Do we know when/where the new Blast Off is getting released?

I pre-ordered him from robotkingdom a bit ago and received him yesterday.

Thanks! Although it looks like that's a UK site, shipping that thing to the US would cost as much as the figure! Yikes. I hope it comes out in the US soon.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:12 am

Microraptor wrote:If I'm not mistaken, that makes them the first gender fluid transformer ever! Which is neat.

Takara Legends Overlord can be male or female depending on the Headmaster used for the toy's face.

And there might have been some others given here or here as well.

News Credits: 2 · by **Hero Alpha** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:18 am

So are the Amazon Nemesis Prime's being mailed out or not? Seems I've read both here. Also anyone who believes in "gender fluid" as a real thing, is a science-denier, hehe.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:23 am

Moonshot wrote:So are the Amazon Nemesis Prime's being mailed out or not?

Not till at least Prime Day.

by **YoungPrime** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:26 am

Ultimately "She's" whatever gender "Her" owner wants her to be. And since I wasn't found of the original G1 version, her being female works fine with me.

News Credits: 4 · by **Cyrano** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:33 am

ZeroWolf wrote:@cindersaur with Abominus- did anyone come up with an intergration of slash and volcanius?

This is what I did. The frame that the dinosaur hands are attached to cradles Grimlock’s t-rex chin nicely. Slash’s dinosaur legs insert between the combiner torso and the extra hands/prime armors very securely, while her legs frame the sides of the t-red head. I think it adds some nice bulk and fills some of the weirder gaps.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:37 am

I will never understand the need to attach slash to Volcanicus...

Every stupid configuration just gives him a dick.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:51 am

Randomhero wrote:I will never understand the need to attach slash to Volcanicus...

Uhm...did you not see my first comment about the backpack?

Randomhero wrote:Every stupid configuration just gives him a dick.

If that's the case, that's a really long...nevermind...

Anyway, nobody says you have to understand, or that you even need to do it. Some of the Combiners in CW had integration with legends figures, and some did not. As I said earlier, I like symmetry and completion (just one of my quirks), so I chose to assign an honorary legends figure to all my combiners (sans Devastator and Predaking). It's not a matter of right or wrong, just personal preference. Especially with the idea that Legends Wreck-Gar was originally planned to be paired up with Sky Reign shows there is a level of ambiguity and creativity that can be done. Some of the fan modes for CW Legends class seem straight up legitimate to me. Sure none of the fan modes for Slash have been as solid, and of course I know they were not designed to be, but they are good enough to satisfy my preferences.

Is there anybody that doesn't think Cindersaur is supposed to be a Terrorcon in PotP? It would have been nice to have some of the raptor remolded to look more "monstrous", but Hasbro is doing things as cheaply as possible currently. Sure nobody has to physically combine Cindersaur with Abominus, the toy is not designed for that, though I would like to, but combined or not, like Slash to the Dinobots, Cindersaur is obviously supposed to be a Terrorcon.

News Credits: 4 · by **Cyrano** » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:54 am

Randomhero wrote:I will never understand the need to attach slash to Volcanicus...

Every stupid configuration just gives him a dick.

Hey thanks. Does the fact that you think my robot has a dick make you feel like you need to be one too? Always nice to get a reminder as to why I tend avoid interacting with this community.