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Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Janus Prime wrote:The Cyberverse Predaking repaint is really driving me crazy, it feels like an obvious homage but I just can´t figure it out. I´m resisting the idea of him being Beas Wars Neo Crazybolt.

RiD Megatron maybe?

I looked a lot of pictures last night trying to find out. Some guys on Facebook think he´s Universe Razorclaw.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Janus Prime wrote:The Cyberverse Predaking repaint is really driving me crazy, it feels like an obvious homage but I just can´t figure it out. I´m resisting the idea of him being Beas Wars Neo Crazybolt.

RiD Megatron maybe?

I was just about to suggest that.

I was hoping sky lynx would be a repaint of predaking...

I'll pick up the Abominus. Possibly the Cryotek as well. The rest I can easily pass on.

Sky Lynx??? Erm... Nope. Not buying it. Dark Steel looks pretty badass. Not sure it outshines Grimwing or Takara's upcoming version though. Ultimately for me it's good to know where all these will be available in the UK. Looks like I'll need to find a Tesco if I want Ultimate Predaking. At least I won't waste time fruitlessly visiting Toys R Us every week looking for him.

Sodan-1 wrote:Sky Lynx??? Erm... Nope. Not buying it. Dark Steel looks pretty badass. Not sure it outshines Grimwing or Takara's upcoming version though. Ultimately for me it's good to know where all these will be available in the UK. Looks like I'll need to find a Tesco if I want Ultimate Predaking. At least I won't waste time fruitlessly visiting Toys R Us every week looking for him.

you have to look for a Tesco? I could probably spin round blindfolded and walk into one within half an hour here. Now, whether that store would have any recent or decent stock is another matter entirely.

As I posted in the UK Sightings Thread, it'd be nice to see us UK collectors helping each other out with this lot. Although, I suppose the same could be said about the rest of the lines, but with these being Tesco exclusives, I have to assume there'll be a higher chance of them all getting a wide release, rather than some other TFs (waves/lines) in the past.

I want Sky Lynx. I would have preferred if he had some Autobot symbols, but at least he does not have any Decepticon markings either.

Anybody think that a lot of these repaints are being put out with these names as copyright holders? Maybe we might see a true classics Sky Lynx down the line

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody think that a lot of these repaints are being put out with these names as copyright holders? Maybe we might see a true classics Sky Lynx down the line

It's very possible, especially since there hasn't been a new Sky Lynx since... Cybertron Scourge Lucky Draw deco apparently. And nothing before that which I know of. I could certainly go for a CHUG Sky Lynx, the best and most glorious and powerful Autobot of all time.

RAcast wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody think that a lot of these repaints are being put out with these names as copyright holders? Maybe we might see a true classics Sky Lynx down the line

It's very possible, especially since there hasn't been a new Sky Lynx since... Cybertron Scourge Lucky Draw deco apparently. And nothing before that which I know of. I could certainly go for a CHUG Sky Lynx, the best and most glorious and powerful Autobot of all time.

There was a Mini-Con in Cybertron who used the name.


And a 3D Battle-Card Game card.

RAcast wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody think that a lot of these repaints are being put out with these names as copyright holders? Maybe we might see a true classics Sky Lynx down the line

It's very possible, especially since there hasn't been a new Sky Lynx since... Cybertron Scourge Lucky Draw deco apparently. And nothing before that which I know of. I could certainly go for a CHUG Sky Lynx, the best and most glorious and powerful Autobot of all time.

Hasbro trademarks =/= TakaraTomy trademarks. That's why Japan can have Trailbreaker and we have to settle for Trailcutter

Sky Lynx hasn't been used since that Cybertron Mini-Con, Bombshock may be an experiment in finding a substitute for Bombshell as Hardshell was, Cindersaur is another reclaimed name (and will be used for Bot Shots as well) and Darksteel... Can't let a good name go to waste, right?

Sabrblade wrote:

RAcast wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody think that a lot of these repaints are being put out with these names as copyright holders? Maybe we might see a true classics Sky Lynx down the line

It's very possible, especially since there hasn't been a new Sky Lynx since... Cybertron Scourge Lucky Draw deco apparently. And nothing before that which I know of. I could certainly go for a CHUG Sky Lynx, the best and most glorious and powerful Autobot of all time.

There was a Mini-Con in Cybertron who used the name.


And a 3D Battle-Card Game card.

None of those things homage G1 Skylinx, despite bearing the name. I was pretty clearly talking about homages. :/

If these do come out with alternate names, I'd be MUCH more inclined to buy up these repaints. As it is, I'm already intrigued enough to pick them up and use them as placeholders for the "aligned" versions of the characters these seemingly homage from previous continuities. I'm this close to actually buying the Beast Hunters Bulkhead remolds as substitues for Roadbuster.

Wolfman Jake wrote:If these do come out with alternate names, I'd be MUCH more inclined to buy up these repaints. As it is, I'm already intrigued enough to pick them up and use them as placeholders for the "aligned" versions of the characters these seemingly homage from previous continuities. I'm this close to actually buying the Beast Hunters Bulkhead remolds as substitues for Roadbuster.

What about Generations FOC Roadbuster?

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:If these do come out with alternate names, I'd be MUCH more inclined to buy up these repaints. As it is, I'm already intrigued enough to pick them up and use them as placeholders for the "aligned" versions of the characters these seemingly homage from previous continuities. I'm this close to actually buying the Beast Hunters Bulkhead remolds as substitues for Roadbuster.

What about Generations FOC Roadbuster?

If he ever is released...

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:What about Generations FOC Roadbuster?

If he ever is released...

Exactly.

Though, if those Wrecker repaints of the FoC Combaticons do ever see the light of day, Roadbuster will likely be too busy forming Ruination with the rest of his compatriots to pose on my Transformers: Prime shelf.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:What about Generations FOC Roadbuster?

If he ever is released...

Exactly.

Though, if those Wrecker repaints of the FoC Combaticons do ever see the light of day, Roadbuster will likely be too busy forming Ruination with the rest of his compatriots to pose on my Transformers: Prime shelf.

I tried combining my Bruticus in their configuration to see how it holds.

Let's just say I am more inclined to display them in their individual robot modes than their combined mode.

That's unfortunate. I was really looking forward to a Wrecker combiner for display. Well, if they end up working better displayed individually, they'll still go on my "Cybertronian" shelf instead of my "Prime" shelf. I use the WfC/FoC figures as an extension of my "Classics/Neo-G1" display to represent the characters in their native Cybertronian forms.

Honestly, Hasbro has been very tepid about really nailing down War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron as definitively part of their "modern/aligned continuity, going forward." When you take into consideration that the creative team behind WfC intended for it to be heavily G1-inspired and compatible before Hasbro made its vague declarations of a "new continuity", the use of the characters as their G1 selves in Takara's comparable "Classics" lines, the adoption of many of these designs by IDW in their ongoing G1 comic book stories, and the myriad of continuity conflicts and errors between various modern Transformers media, you really have to wonder how important this "modern continuity" is to Hasbro in the first place.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody think that a lot of these repaints are being put out with these names as copyright holders? Maybe we might see a true classics Sky Lynx down the line

I thought the same thing. Here's hoping a proper Sky Lynx figure comes out at some point.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Honestly, Hasbro has been very tepid about really nailing down War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron as definitively part of their "modern/aligned continuity, going forward." When you take into consideration that the creative team behind WfC intended for it to be heavily G1-inspired and compatible before Hasbro made its vague declarations of a "new continuity",

Yet, Hasbro was already working on their new continuity by the time High Moon first approached them about making a new video game (WFC).

Plus, wouldn't it naturally make sense for the first chapter of Hasbro's new continuity to be largely based on the first chapter of the brand, with later chapters in the story gradually evoking the later chapters of the brand, and then finally reaching the present day chapter (TF: Prime) that happens to be inspired by the brand's own present day chapter (the movies)? Just a thought.

Dean ML wrote:the use of the characters as their G1 selves in Takara's comparable "Classics" lines,

That was only the case for the United toyline's use of the WFC molds. All FOC molds in Takara's Generations toyline are their Aligned selves, with bios that even more Aligned-y than Hasbro's.

Though, Takara's use of FOC Shockwave was in their Prime line instead, but same case with him being his Aligned self in Japan.

Dean ML wrote:the adoption of many of these designs by IDW in their ongoing G1 comic book stories, and the myriad of continuity conflicts and errors between various modern Transformers media, you really have to wonder how important this "modern continuity" is to Hasbro in the first place.

The short answer is that, unfortunately for those of us who care about it, Hasbro simply has a different definition of "continuity" than the fans do.

All the more reason I'm perfectly happy to adopt the WfC/FoC figures into my Classics collection. If Hasbro doesn't care too much about rigid categories, neither will I.

Still, it's weird to see such a wish-washy stance from Hasbro, who on the one hand have been deliberately blurring the lines between continuities on their toy bios as far back as the "Transformers 2010" releases, while simultaneously drumming up excitement for a newly aligned modern story for the brand that makes a bigger mess of continuity than the original cartoon and Marvel comics ever did.

So as not to hijack the thread completely, I'll get back on topic and ponder what other homages Hasbro could and could have put out for the Beast Hunters line. I'm sticking with BH Bulkhead as a Roadbuster stand-in (the ambiguous headsculpt seals the deal for me on this). Maybe a redecoed BH Wheeljack as Slicer?

Wolfman Jake wrote:Maybe a redecoed BH Wheeljack as Slicer?

Dark Energon Wheeljack already covered that.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Honestly, Hasbro has been very tepid about really nailing down War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron as definitively part of their "modern/aligned continuity, going forward." When you take into consideration that the creative team behind WfC intended for it to be heavily G1-inspired and compatible before Hasbro made its vague declarations of a "new continuity",

Yet, Hasbro was already working on their new continuity by the time High Moon first approached them about making a new video game (WFC).

Plus, wouldn't it naturally make sense for the first chapter of Hasbro's new continuity to be largely based on the first chapter of the brand, with later chapters in the story gradually evoking the later chapters of the brand, and then finally reaching the present day chapter (TF: Prime) that happens to be inspired by the brand's own present day chapter (the movies)? Just a thought.

Dean ML wrote:the use of the characters as their G1 selves in Takara's comparable "Classics" lines,

That was only the case for the United toyline's use of the WFC molds. All FOC molds in Takara's Generations toyline are their Aligned selves, with bios that even more Aligned-y than Hasbro's.

Though, Takara's use of FOC Shockwave was in their Prime line instead, but same case with him being his Aligned self in Japan.

Dean ML wrote:the adoption of many of these designs by IDW in their ongoing G1 comic book stories, and the myriad of continuity conflicts and errors between various modern Transformers media, you really have to wonder how important this "modern continuity" is to Hasbro in the first place.

The short answer is that, unfortunately for those of us who care about it, Hasbro simply has a different definition of "continuity" than the fans do.

And what do you think will happen to the Aligned continuity now that the key people behind it are no longer there? Should be interesting to see how things play out over the next 5 to 10 years.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Maybe a redecoed BH Wheeljack as Slicer?

Dark Energon Wheeljack already covered that.

I forgot about those PRiD exclusives. Yeah, that's not a bad Slicer stand-in, if you get some reprolables. I was thinking more along the lines of the current BH remolds with the spiky armor and "bestial" flourishes in design. A repainted BH Wheeljack could be a Slicer who could really live up to his name. Or, how about a repaint of BH Soundwave as Soundblaster?

Seibertron wrote:And what do you think will happen to the Aligned continuity now that the key people behind it are no longer there? Should be interesting to see how things play out over the next 5 to 10 years.

Indeed. That is a good question. The future's pretty questionable once Prime, TF4, and Rescue Bots season 2 come and go.

Twould be a shame for all that hype for this continuity to have been mostly all for naught, as well as for the big hole in the middle of its story to be left unexplored. But, I'd think Hasbro would at least be smart enough to not let a 300+ page Binder bible go to waste after all the time and effort that was spent into making it, so we might still at least get something based around the Binder's info.