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News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:23 am

I still don’t think this is an actual feature. It’s more like “this is how the head is assembled isn’t it kinda like how he dies in the movies?” Especially since if you’re not careful you can break the eyes taking it off. Once I got bonecrusher I did this and it felt more like I was just disassembling my toy. Especially considering there’s no detail like say that Fallen toy where there’s bits and a skull under behind the face

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:39 am

But why have the head assembled that way? Seems like a bit more trouble then needed.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:45 am

ZeroWolf wrote:But why have the head assembled that way? Seems like a bit more trouble then needed.

Yeah with the eyes like that it's similar to how they assemble heads that have light piping in but this doesn't, and those tend to have a screw go through so you can't easily just take it off without unscrewing. Again this doesn't. So to me this seems designed to be removable as a nice lil easter egg to his death.

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:45 pm

Unfortunately I won't be getting DOTM Prime in time, so I'll be working on painting/modding it around Christmas later this year.

However, I did have something else arrrive!

"Ironhide, catch!"

"Wha-"

*THUD*

I'm working on adding some paint, but I'm having a blast with the new parts!

I mainly got the kit for the rifles, but the other parts are also very welcome. The only issue I'm having with it is that the back of the truck doesn't want to tab together anymore, so I'll have to look more into that.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:54 pm

That sequence of photos made me smile. Particularly the 'thud' one.

Had that set for a while now. Before most people actually. Cos an eBay listing Buy It Now appeared with it already attached to an Ironhide so I leapt on it and it turned out to be the very exact one I had actually watched a review of just a few days before. It was youtuber Benscollectables' Ironhide. It was still complete with box and all that (with the old parts now in the DNA box). I swapped which parts I needed with my own Ironhide that I had painted some parts on then sold the spare un-DNA'd Ironhide on eBay and kept my lovely improved one. The front bumper really makes a world of difference to his shape and more dynamic posing. The guns and improved articulation in feet are all great but it was the bumper that I so very much wanted.

News Credits: 1 · by **Asepticon** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:09 pm

But in the movie, he takes his whole head off, not just part of the face.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:22 pm

kinda wished i'd never said antyhing now. Didn't expect it to go on this much. Just wanted a pic of what TFwiki had written.

Anyways I'm off for an early night cos I'm getting up early tomorrow on my birthday to go wait outside at 5:30am for my lift to airport to fly up to the Edinburgh Fringe for a day and night to go spend the day with my am dram group who are up there performing a couple shows. Hm, there's a Forbidden Planet in Edinburgh and it's right close to the castle I'll be going to on the Tuesday morning. Hopefully they'll have some Transformers I be looking for.

Anyways take care, folks. And enjoy your Transformers. til all are one and such.

GoodBay!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:30 pm

Happy birthday for tomorrow! Hope you have a fun time in Edinburgh (fantastic place) and good luck on the hunt.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:51 pm

Carnivius_Prime wrote:kinda wished i'd never said antyhing now. Didn't expect it to go on this much. Just wanted a pic of what TFwiki had written.

Went ahead this morning and added a reference link to the original source for that tidbit on Bonecrusher's Wiki page.

Didn't know someone had actually added it to the page. Had I known, I would have added the source link a long time ago. :oops:

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:01 pm

Asepticon wrote:But in the movie, he takes his whole head off, not just part of the face.

Prime stabs him under his chin straight thru/upwards so it's a face removal rather than a straight up decapitation from the looks of it.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:40 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:
Asepticon wrote:But in the movie, he takes his whole head off, not just part of the face.

Prime stabs him under his chin straight thru/upwards so it's a face removal rather than a straight up decapitation from the looks of it.

Having watched the film several times and the clip just now I can say it was most if not all of the head, most apparent when Bonecrusher's head falls down it looks mostly whole and spherical and it rolls.

I don't think his head would be rolling if it was a face decapitation.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:08 pm

Scored Hightower today and what an awesome ugly little bot. I love this thing it reminds me of Zod from GoBots for some reason. He’s like a twisted little scorpion. And Devastator is going to be enormous. Wow.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:47 pm

Unless there’s a scene I’m forgetting this is probably a sign to take it easy on SS faces...how does this just happen when we’re talking about faces???

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:53 pm

Stargrave wrote:Unless there’s a scene I’m forgetting this is probably a sign to take it easy on SS faces...how does this just happen when we’re talking about faces???

Long Haul got the same treatment somewhere in the movie I can't remember: supposedly that's how Igor was made :lol:

News Credits: 1 · by **YRQRM0** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:28 pm

Randomhero wrote:I still don’t think this is an actual feature. It’s more like “this is how the head is assembled isn’t it kinda like how he dies in the movies?” Especially since if you’re not careful you can break the eyes taking it off. Once I got bonecrusher I did this and it felt more like I was just disassembling my toy. Especially considering there’s no detail like say that Fallen toy where there’s bits and a skull under behind the face

Yeah, I don't really buy it. By this logic, hundreds of figures have undocumented features for removable arms, legs, heads, wings etc.

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:35 pm

Has anyone gotten their hands on SS-44 and tried hooking the trailer up to SS-38? If so, I'd like to see pictures.

I'm not sure I want to drop $50 on em accessory, but i don't have any other Bayverse Primes, so it wouldn't be a total waste.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:08 pm

If Bonecrusher's head really was intentionally removable as a feature then why did they not have the eyes be part of the head?

it's not even accurate, you might as well take the whole head off the ball joint instead for more accuracy.

That Long Haul above kinda proves it's unintentional.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Long Haul got the same treatment somewhere in the movie I can't remember: supposedly that's how Igor was made

Well yes but actually no.

He's never decapitated in ROTF although he is shot in the shoulder during the bombing run by a missile and loses a shoulder tire which might of made his head come off loose but otherwise he's not shown being decapitated.

In DOTM while Igor is by all means and intentions a sentient decapitated Long Haul head (whether the same as the ROTF one is unknown) it's not really said in the movie itself, just vague details in the novel adaption and concept art.

The Garbage Truck Decepticon (who I have the head canon is actually Onslaught before he lost one of his arms and took a new alternate mode for hiding) isn't shown getting decapitated and neither is the straight up Long Haul clone in Chicago which in my head canon is Igor who got his head reattached for the battle, explains his disappearance away and explains a Long Haul clone.

Onslaught however is straight up decapitated though

I know head canon's aren't official or anything but their just theories to explain stuff away by linking things together that will otherwise be unlikely to be officially answered.

Anyways there's no point for an Igor homage with Longhaul because we already got a pretty accurate looking Igor figure with Leader DOTM Megatron

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:15 am

The problem is that why bother building the heads the way they have then? It's not standard construction as they wouldn't need to be removable (the head would just be one piece of plastic, or two halves held together by a screw)

An alternate idea is that one of the designers wants Optimus Prime to be able to build up a face collection in preparation for a future Fallen figure

either way this is a fun thing so I don't know why people can't just let it lie :-?

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:23 am

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem is that why bother building the heads the way they have then? It's not standard construction as they wouldn't need to be removable (the head would just be one piece of plastic, or two halves held together by a screw)

An alternate idea is that one of the designers wants Optimus Prime to be able to build up a face collection in preparation for a future Fallen figure either way this is a fun thing so I don't know why people can't just let it lie

Who says it wasn't a new type of construction they were trying?

There were better ways to achieve that effect if it was intentional, that and the whole breaking eye thing casts doubt it's intentional.

There isn't any problem if people want to use this for that purpose but the discussion is whether this is an intentional feature or just a side effect for the construction of the figure.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:31 am

I don't think Hasbro really cares if they're specifically decapitated or just have their faces removed in the movies. By making the faces removable it spares the ball joint from wearing out, or worse, breaking. Leaving the eyes behind just makes them easier to paint, and they don't really look like eyes on their own anyway and it makes the faces look properly lifeless.

Emerje

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:34 am

Emerje wrote:I don't think Hasbro really cares if they're specifically decapitated or just have their faces removed in the movies. By making the faces removable it spares the ball joint from wearing out, or worse, breaking. Leaving the eyes behind just makes them easier to paint, and they don't really look like eyes on their own anyway and it makes the faces look properly lifeless.

Emerje

I agree, the only way we'll ever know for sure is if the question was put to the studio series designers.

@Deadput it's okay to say that there's other ways to do it, but it doesn't change the point that this method is an inefficient way to construct a head. There's no point I can see, no benefit, to having the head built this way compared to normal style

by **FrankTheJohnson** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:14 pm

This a pretty cool addition to this figure. I didn't know about it.. but good to know. So now I'm wondering if the SS Battle Damage Megatron's arm comes off since his face is damaged and there are hidden features like this face coming off.. that totally would make the Megatron figure more worth getting in my opinion.

Does anyone know if that's possible on the SS Battle Damage Megatron?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:17 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Emerje wrote:I don't think Hasbro really cares if they're specifically decapitated or just have their faces removed in the movies. By making the faces removable it spares the ball joint from wearing out, or worse, breaking. Leaving the eyes behind just makes them easier to paint, and they don't really look like eyes on their own anyway and it makes the faces look properly lifeless.

Emerje

I agree, the only way we'll ever know for sure is if the question was put to the studio series designers.

@Deadput it's okay to say that there's other ways to do it, but it doesn't change the point that this method is an inefficient way to construct a head. There's no point I can see, no benefit, to having the head built this way compared to normal style

Lightpiping maybe? If it wasn't for just the pupils being translucent (in addition to other parts that may impact other modes), I'd say that's a possibility.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:44 pm

I feel it gives it some depth I mean Long Haul’s chest piece seems to be glued on and it gives me that multi-layered multiple paneled feel of the movie bots. The assembly and paint treatments give attention to the crevices and details like that. At least that I’ve noticed.

It’s like they’ve layered complexity over simplicity which ultimately seems more in line with the aesthetic than the previous toys that were trying to be both hyper complex and hyper detailed.

From the back in robot mode Rampage looks super simple then from the front he’s a hyper detailed murder machine on a pogo stick.

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:22 pm

FrankTheJohnson wrote:This a pretty cool addition to this figure. I didn't know about it.. but good to know. So now I'm wondering if the SS Battle Damage Megatron's arm comes off since his face is damaged and there are hidden features like this face coming off.. that totally would make the Megatron figure more worth getting in my opinion.

Does anyone know if that's possible on the SS Battle Damage Megatron?

The arm is attached via a mushroom peg I think, so it should be pretty easily removable.