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[william-james88]

Bumblebee deserves less per case
2x? he needs 1x
Better yet, FORGET BUMBLEBEE

Why would Hasbro forget their biggest moneymaker? The more bee sells, the better off all tf fans will be

Because bee is a nonsense and has no reason to exist other than to annoy all fans over 3 years old

And yet fans keep begging Hasbro and Walmart to rerelease Netflix Bee.

[william-james88]

This is how my kid sees it

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

This is how my kid sees it

I disagree. As a kid, I thought Hot Rod and Grimlock were cooler than boring ol bee.

[ZeroWolf]

This is how my kid sees it

I disagree. As a kid, I thought Hot Rod and Grimlock were cooler than boring ol bee.

But most kids these days are more familiar with the live action movies then G1 (which I guess you're implying since you have a low opinion of the live action stuff. It gets confusing when you say the names but could be talking about vastly different characters).

My son would respond the same as Wills', he loves Bee but Prime has no bearing with him.

[o.supreme]

This is how my kid sees it

I disagree. As a kid I thought Hot Rod and Grimlock were cooler than boring ol bee.

I was the same. As a kid in the 80s, I never identified with "kid characters", especially Bumblebee. But I and my peers must have been in the minority. I don't have a single BB in my collection ( I would have picked up origins if I saw it at that clearance price), but the fact is, BB sells. Other than when TRU way over ordered a couple select items , BB has generally always sold well. He has way more studio series releases than any other character, yet they don't seem to shelf warm.

Trust me. It took me a while to realize, my personal indifference towards BB ( and other people's disdain) dosen't reflect the majority of kids who are ( or their parents are) buying these toys for them

[Sabrblade]

Exactly, it's far easier (and healthier) to just accept it and move on to something you enjoy thinning about.

One thing that I see often on 4chan and even here are threads whose whole point is to HATE on something or someone. Seriously, how miserable and unhappy one can be to find enjoyment in those threads?

It is for that reason that I've tended to stay out of the live-action movie forum on here.

This is how my kid sees it

I disagree. As a kid I thought Hot Rod and Grimlock were cooler than boring ol bee.

I was the same. As a kid in the 80s, I never identified with "kid characters", especially Bumblebee. But I and my peers must have been in the minority.

In my youth, I did identify with Cheetor, since he was a kid like me. But unlike most of the other kid-appeal characters, he actually underwent an arc of growth and maturation over a natural period of time, growing up along with the young viewers who were watching at the time. Those who would have watched Beast Wars as teenagers would have finished Beast Machines as young adults, just like Cheetor started and finished over the course of his development arc. But I was still a kid by then, too, so, well I did still think he was cool as a kid, his arc didn't really vibe with me until I rewatched both shows as a teenager some years later.

[william-james88]

This is how my kid sees it

I disagree. As a kid, I thought Hot Rod and Grimlock were cooler than boring ol bee.

You can't disagree with the fact that this is how my kid sees it.

[Rtron]

There's a great customizer in this forum who's a fan of Bumblebee, he posts to this thread regularly. Let people like what they like, man.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

This is how my kid sees it

I disagree. As a kid, I thought Hot Rod and Grimlock were cooler than boring ol bee.

You can't disagree with the fact that this is how my kid sees it.

How did I know you'd say that? I was reffereing to the idea of kids all liking bumblebee, not what your kid beleives. I'm sure you know your child


If Bumblebee starting resembling and acting like his generation one counterpart, I'd probably begin to see a bit of something in him. His personality sure changed, even if he's always been the kid appeal.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

There's a great customizer in this forum who's a fan of Bumblebee, he posts to this thread regularly. Let people like what they like, man.

Who? And if you tell me he only makes bay movie customs, I'll throw a flip.

[Rtron]

There's a great customizer in this forum who's a fan of Bumblebee, he posts to this thread regularly. Let people like what they like, man.

Who? And if you tell me he only makes bay movie customs, I'll throw a flip.

EvasionModeBumblebee. Dude seems pretty young, wouldn't be surprised if Bayverse is all they collect. You'll have to make peace with the fact that newer generations will tend to prefer newer iterarions of Transformers, lol. I'm one of the younger Beast Wars babies, and I'm getting close to my thirties. So most youngish fans are into Bayverse or Prime.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

There's a great customizer in this forum who's a fan of Bumblebee, he posts to this thread regularly. Let people like what they like, man.

Who? And if you tell me he only makes bay movie customs, I'll throw a flip.

EvasionModeBumblebee. Dude seems pretty young, wouldn't be surprised if Bayverse is all they collect. You'll have to make peace with the fact that newer generations will tend to prefer newer iterarions of Transformers, lol. I'm one of the younger Beast Wars babies, and I'm getting close to my thirties. So most youngish fans are into Bayverse or Prime.

Then I guess I'm a big exception than...
I'm a G1 and Beast Wars fan

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Who? And if you tell me he only makes bay movie customs, I'll throw a flip.

Hi there! I'm EvasionModeBumblebee and yep, I only make Bay movie customs! xD

The Bay films are what got me into Transformers and still what I'm most passionate about in TF, and getting to paint these figures up has been a total blast. I'm actually working on SS DOTM Bumblebee right now, it's my favorite design for Bee so I've been looking forward to it for a very long time! I'll post my thoughts on the figure in general this weekend when I upload the custom.


But yeah, Bumblebee is my favorite character! Specifically the Bayverse version.

Also, while we're talking about the newest SS deluxe wave, it's weird that Amazon still hasn't released Sideways when I've had Bee and Galvatron for a while now, and now he's showing up in stores. Hopefully Amazon sends it soon!

There's a great customizer in this forum who's a fan of Bumblebee, he posts to this thread regularly.

Thank you very much! Yep, I started sticking to just Bayverse when Studio Series started. I still really like other parts of Transformers (Prime and the Cybertron games in particular), but Bayverse is really what I enjoy the most.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

Who? And if you tell me he only makes bay movie customs, I'll throw a flip.

Hi there! I'm EvasionModeBumblebee and yep, I only make Bay movie customs! xD

The Bay films are what got me into Transformers and still what I'm most passionate about in TF, and getting to paint these figures up has been a total blast. I'm actually working on SS DOTM Bumblebee right now, it's my favorite design for Bee so I've been looking forward to it for a very long time! I'll post my thoughts on the figure in general this weekend when I upload the custom.


But yeah, if my profile didn't give it away, Bumblebee is my favorite character! Specifically the Bayverse version.

Also, while we're talking aboutt he newest SS deluxe wave, it's weird that Amazon still hasn't released Sideways when I've had Bee and Galvatron for a while now, and now he's showing up in stores. Hopefully Amazon sends it soon!

Hello. I dislike the bay films out of their originality and my beliefs as a Christian.
But out of casual conversation and trying to prove that I'm not constantly rude to everyone, what do you enjoy about the micheal bay movies? I enjoy the Generation One because it came first, and the sheer simplicity of the designs, easy to draw.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

But out of casual conversation and trying to prove that I'm not constantly rude to everyone, what do you enjoy about the micheal bay movies? I enjoy the Generation One because it came first, and the sheer simplicity of the designs, easy to draw.

I think the big thing for me are the robot designs, especially from the first 3 films. I love the complexity and detail that makes them look more mechanical (and the way the parts shift as they move is so cool to see, especially on bots like Starscream). That's a big part of why Studio Series has been my favorite line, they've captured the detail and proportions of those designs excellently.

I don't want to go derailing the thread too far, but the other things I really enjoy are the action sequences (the choreography, movement, and sound design for them is just spectacular), Steve Jablonsky's amazing score, and coming from a military family I really enjoyed the military presence in the films. They filmed the movies on bases I lived on, using vehicles I got to see every now and then like the F-22 and CH-53. They used actual military service members for parts of the films, one of my robotics team mentors on base voiced one of the F-22 pilots in the 07 movie, and they reused one of his lines in DOTM.

It was also what introduced me to Transformers, so there's a lot of nostalgia there for me as well!

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

But out of casual conversation and trying to prove that I'm not constantly rude to everyone, what do you enjoy about the micheal bay movies? I enjoy the Generation One because it came first, and the sheer simplicity of the designs, easy to draw.

I think the big thing for me are the robot designs, especially from the first 3 films. I love the complexity and detail that makes them look more mechanical (and the way the parts shift as they move is so cool to see, especially on bots like Starscream). That's a big part of why Studio Series has been my favorite line, they've captured the detail and proportions of those designs excellently.

I don't want to go derailing the thread too far, but the other things I really enjoy are the action sequences (the choreography, movement, and sound design for them is just spectacular), Steve Jablonsky's amazing score, and coming from a military family I really enjoyed the military presence in the films. They filmed the movies on bases I lived on, using vehicles I got to see every now and then like the F-22 and CH-53. They used actual military service members for parts of the films, one of my robotics team mentors on base voiced one of the F-22 pilots in the 07 movie, and they reused one of his lines in DOTM.

It was also what introduced me to Transformers, so there's a lot of nostalgia there for me as well!

Thank you for your kind and not accusing me of being a troll answer. God Bless. Now I understand you opinion a lot more. See Kankrabat, I CAN dislike something without being rude about it

[-Kanrabat-]

Hello. I dislike the bay films out of their originality and my beliefs as a Christian.

You have me intrigued here. HOW in the 9 Hells are these movies related to religion? Especially Christianity?

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

Hello. I dislike the bay films out of their originality and my beliefs as a Christian.

You have me intrigued here. HOW in the 9 Hells are these movies related to religion? Especially Christianity?

you underestimate the ability of micheal baby to be the most preverted person I've met
Thank God I haven't seen worse....

[-Kanrabat-]

you underestimate the ability of micheal baby to be the most preverted person I've met
Thank God I haven't seen worse....

Well, if your religion forbid you to see anything dirty, better give up on any and all entertainment and join a monastery.

Still, we all feel free to cringe at these "jokes", religion or not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

you underestimate the ability of micheal baby to be the most preverted person I've met
Thank God I haven't seen worse....

Well, if your religion forbid you to see anything dirty, better give up on any and all entertainment and join a monastery.

Still, we all feel free to cringe at these "jokes", religion or not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't think I'd mind joining a monastery. It'd get me off my transformers.

And I'm still praying for you

[Sabrblade]

Hello. I dislike the bay films out of their originality and my beliefs as a Christian.

You have me intrigued here. HOW in the 9 Hells are these movies related to religion? Especially Christianity?

Well, let's see...

In the first movie, Sam guilt-tripped his teacher into giving him an A- on his very poorly-done genealogy report by saying "What would Jesus do?"

In Revenge of the Fallen, Epps tried to have a profound moment by wondering the following about Optimus: "You gotta wonder, if God made Man in His image, who made him?"

And in Age of Extinction, the Autobots and their three human allies hide out in an old abandoned church before infiltrating KSI.

I think that's everything, but I might be forgetting some things.

[william-james88]

Hello. I dislike the bay films out of their originality and my beliefs as a Christian.

You have me intrigued here. HOW in the 9 Hells are these movies related to religion? Especially Christianity?

Well, let's see...

In the first movie, Sam guilt-tripped his teacher into giving him an A- on his very poorly-done genealogy report by saying "What would Jesus do?"

In Revenge of the Fallen, Epps tried to have a profound moment by wondering the following about Optimus: "You gotta wonder, if God made Man in His image, who made him?"

And in Age of Extinction, the Autobots and their three human allies hide out in an old abandoned church before infiltrating KSI.

I think that's everything, but I might be forgetting some things.

Yes, you are forgetting all the temptation brought about by the lascivious women, talk of masterbation, and suggestions of premarital sex, including by a minor, plus drug use. More puritan than outright Christian but both go hand in hand in the ways some people choose to follow their faith. The G1 cartoon, being strictly for kids, has no sexuality.

you underestimate the ability of micheal baby to be the most preverted person I've met
Thank God I haven't seen worse....

Well, if your religion forbid you to see anything dirty, better give up on any and all entertainment and join a monastery.

Still, we all feel free to cringe at these "jokes", religion or not.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I wouldn't suggest joining a monastery in Quebec though, that's where many young men lose their virginity. (ok, I'm done with the jokes now)

[william-james88]

But out of casual conversation and trying to prove that I'm not constantly rude to everyone, what do you enjoy about the micheal bay movies? I enjoy the Generation One because it came first, and the sheer simplicity of the designs, easy to draw.

I think the big thing for me are the robot designs, especially from the first 3 films. I love the complexity and detail that makes them look more mechanical (and the way the parts shift as they move is so cool to see, especially on bots like Starscream). That's a big part of why Studio Series has been my favorite line, they've captured the detail and proportions of those designs excellently.

I don't want to go derailing the thread too far, but the other things I really enjoy are the action sequences (the choreography, movement, and sound design for them is just spectacular), Steve Jablonsky's amazing score, and coming from a military family I really enjoyed the military presence in the films. They filmed the movies on bases I lived on, using vehicles I got to see every now and then like the F-22 and CH-53. They used actual military service members for parts of the films, one of my robotics team mentors on base voiced one of the F-22 pilots in the 07 movie, and they reused one of his lines in DOTM.

It was also what introduced me to Transformers, so there's a lot of nostalgia there for me as well!

WOW, it's almost as if those Transformers films were made with you in mind. Pretty cool to be entrenched in it as much as you were.

To answer other questions: "Porn" itself is not a swear word, so it's fine to use, but talking about the topic itself at length would have no business here in a transformers forum. So far I see no wrong doing though, so carry on all.

[-Kanrabat-]

Yeah, "offense" is in the eye of the beholder. So it all depend on the individual.

Still, a bit too often for comfort the Bay movies went full Freddy Got Fingered.
Especially in Revenge of the Fallen.

[ZeroWolf]

Yeah, "offense" is in the eye of the beholder. So it all depend on the individual.

Still, a bit too often for comfort the Bay movies went full Freddy Got Fingered.
Especially in Revenge of the Fallen.

That's why you never let Bay finish the script Would have been interesting to see the film had the writers strike not happened (or if Paramount delayed it)