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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:47 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:They ommited the "to punish and slave" Decal on Barricade again, ugh. These don't seem as de-decoed as their Autobot counterparts, tough, outside of Barricade, and Starscream who's missing some paint apps on the face. It also feels sort of nostalgic that Brawl and Bonecrusher aren't included, since they're the ones who didn't feature in any promotional material back in 2007. They didn't even have any of those weird promotional renders!

I have a feeling that omission is probably on purpose given the current sentiments about the police. I think its highly likely that if the 07 movie was made today, that slogan wouldn't have appeared at all.


I don't get this argument. Current sentiment is that cops are bad. Barricade is a bad cop. If anything, it makes more sense now than ever.
You don't get that Hasbro is trying to avoid any political controversy that could accuse them of being anti-police? What is there not to get about that? Hasbro is not going to release a children's toy with a statement suggesting "the police are evil" because that would put Hasbro in a bad light.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:04 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rtron wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:They ommited the "to punish and slave" Decal on Barricade again, ugh. These don't seem as de-decoed as their Autobot counterparts, tough, outside of Barricade, and Starscream who's missing some paint apps on the face. It also feels sort of nostalgic that Brawl and Bonecrusher aren't included, since they're the ones who didn't feature in any promotional material back in 2007. They didn't even have any of those weird promotional renders!

I have a feeling that omission is probably on purpose given the current sentiments about the police. I think its highly likely that if the 07 movie was made today, that slogan wouldn't have appeared at all.


I don't get this argument. Current sentiment is that cops are bad. Barricade is a bad cop. If anything, it makes more sense now than ever.
You don't get that Hasbro is trying to avoid any political controversy that could accuse them of being anti-police? What is there not to get about that? Hasbro is not going to release a children's toy with a statement suggesting "the police are evil" because that would put Hasbro in a bad light.


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:41 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rtron wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:They ommited the "to punish and slave" Decal on Barricade again, ugh. These don't seem as de-decoed as their Autobot counterparts, tough, outside of Barricade, and Starscream who's missing some paint apps on the face. It also feels sort of nostalgic that Brawl and Bonecrusher aren't included, since they're the ones who didn't feature in any promotional material back in 2007. They didn't even have any of those weird promotional renders!

I have a feeling that omission is probably on purpose given the current sentiments about the police. I think its highly likely that if the 07 movie was made today, that slogan wouldn't have appeared at all.


I don't get this argument. Current sentiment is that cops are bad. Barricade is a bad cop. If anything, it makes more sense now than ever.
You don't get that Hasbro is trying to avoid any political controversy that could accuse them of being anti-police? What is there not to get about that? Hasbro is not going to release a children's toy with a statement suggesting "the police are evil" because that would put Hasbro in a bad light.

They were still doing it as recently as 2018. Are they trying to not make a statement or are they cutting costs? This is the same box set that couldn't be bothered to use the improved articulated Grindor hands on Blackout after all. Let's see if there's any real difference between this Barricade and the two pack.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Rtron » Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:08 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rtron wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:They ommited the "to punish and slave" Decal on Barricade again, ugh. These don't seem as de-decoed as their Autobot counterparts, tough, outside of Barricade, and Starscream who's missing some paint apps on the face. It also feels sort of nostalgic that Brawl and Bonecrusher aren't included, since they're the ones who didn't feature in any promotional material back in 2007. They didn't even have any of those weird promotional renders!

I have a feeling that omission is probably on purpose given the current sentiments about the police. I think its highly likely that if the 07 movie was made today, that slogan wouldn't have appeared at all.


I don't get this argument. Current sentiment is that cops are bad. Barricade is a bad cop. If anything, it makes more sense now than ever.
You don't get that Hasbro is trying to avoid any political controversy that could accuse them of being anti-police? What is there not to get about that? Hasbro is not going to release a children's toy with a statement suggesting "the police are evil" because that would put Hasbro in a bad light.

They were still doing it as recently as 2018. Are they trying to not make a statement or are they cutting costs? This is the same box set that couldn't be bothered to use the improved articulated Grindor hands on Blackout after all. Let's see if there's any real difference between this Barricade and the two pack.

Emerje


Exactly! Cost cutting makes way more sense, since they are also making more toys of female and lgbt characters and that seems to fly. And they are saying THIS policeman is evil, not that all police are evil. Jeez, sometimes I really don't get USA culture. In what normal planet could you accuse a company of anything because of a label on a toy? It's a cool turn of phrase that gives the toy character. And corrupt policemen have been a part of children's fiction since forever, look at old school Batman, for example.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:11 pm

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Rtron wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rtron wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:They ommited the "to punish and slave" Decal on Barricade again, ugh. These don't seem as de-decoed as their Autobot counterparts, tough, outside of Barricade, and Starscream who's missing some paint apps on the face. It also feels sort of nostalgic that Brawl and Bonecrusher aren't included, since they're the ones who didn't feature in any promotional material back in 2007. They didn't even have any of those weird promotional renders!

I have a feeling that omission is probably on purpose given the current sentiments about the police. I think its highly likely that if the 07 movie was made today, that slogan wouldn't have appeared at all.


I don't get this argument. Current sentiment is that cops are bad. Barricade is a bad cop. If anything, it makes more sense now than ever.
You don't get that Hasbro is trying to avoid any political controversy that could accuse them of being anti-police? What is there not to get about that? Hasbro is not going to release a children's toy with a statement suggesting "the police are evil" because that would put Hasbro in a bad light.

They were still doing it as recently as 2018. Are they trying to not make a statement or are they cutting costs? This is the same box set that couldn't be bothered to use the improved articulated Grindor hands on Blackout after all. Let's see if there's any real difference between this Barricade and the two pack.

Emerje


Exactly! Cost cutting makes way more sense, since they are also making more toys of female and lgbt characters and that seems to fly. And they are saying THIS policeman is evil, not that all police are evil. Jeez, sometimes I really don't get USA culture. In what normal planet could you accuse a company of anything because of a label on a toy? It's a cool turn of phrase that gives the toy character. And corrupt policemen have been a part of children's fiction since forever, look at old school Batman, for example.
Have you forgotten about the "MAGA Jazz" controversy from Power of the Primes?
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Rtron » Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:14 pm

Motto: "Stop, please."
Sabrblade wrote:
Rtron wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rtron wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:They ommited the "to punish and slave" Decal on Barricade again, ugh. These don't seem as de-decoed as their Autobot counterparts, tough, outside of Barricade, and Starscream who's missing some paint apps on the face. It also feels sort of nostalgic that Brawl and Bonecrusher aren't included, since they're the ones who didn't feature in any promotional material back in 2007. They didn't even have any of those weird promotional renders!

I have a feeling that omission is probably on purpose given the current sentiments about the police. I think its highly likely that if the 07 movie was made today, that slogan wouldn't have appeared at all.


I don't get this argument. Current sentiment is that cops are bad. Barricade is a bad cop. If anything, it makes more sense now than ever.
You don't get that Hasbro is trying to avoid any political controversy that could accuse them of being anti-police? What is there not to get about that? Hasbro is not going to release a children's toy with a statement suggesting "the police are evil" because that would put Hasbro in a bad light.

They were still doing it as recently as 2018. Are they trying to not make a statement or are they cutting costs? This is the same box set that couldn't be bothered to use the improved articulated Grindor hands on Blackout after all. Let's see if there's any real difference between this Barricade and the two pack.

Emerje


Exactly! Cost cutting makes way more sense, since they are also making more toys of female and lgbt characters and that seems to fly. And they are saying THIS policeman is evil, not that all police are evil. Jeez, sometimes I really don't get USA culture. In what normal planet could you accuse a company of anything because of a label on a toy? It's a cool turn of phrase that gives the toy character. And corrupt policemen have been a part of children's fiction since forever, look at old school Batman, for example.
Have you forgotten about the "MAGA Jazz" controversy from Power of the Primes?


But MAGA Jazz made a specific reference to a specific group, that the designer attempted to hide on purpose, which clearly states the intent of putting that there. This is a phrase that I'm pretty sure MICHAEL BAY thought up, of all people. And it's an ironic turn of phrase that is specific to the franchise, NOT a parroted rallying cry from a specific political faction. It's an entirely different context.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:50 pm

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Rtron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Have you forgotten about the "MAGA Jazz" controversy from Power of the Primes?


But MAGA Jazz made a specific reference to a specific group, that the designer attempted to hide on purpose, which clearly states the intent of putting that there. This is a phrase that I'm pretty sure MICHAEL BAY thought up, of all people. And it's an ironic turn of phrase that is specific to the franchise, NOT a parroted rallying cry from a specific political faction. It's an entirely different context.

Should also be mentioned that it was a rogue designer that stuck that on there, it wasn't done with Hasbro's approval and they quickly fixed it with a running change for the later wave when they found out.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:47 pm

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Emerje wrote:
Rtron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Have you forgotten about the "MAGA Jazz" controversy from Power of the Primes?


But MAGA Jazz made a specific reference to a specific group, that the designer attempted to hide on purpose, which clearly states the intent of putting that there. This is a phrase that I'm pretty sure MICHAEL BAY thought up, of all people. And it's an ironic turn of phrase that is specific to the franchise, NOT a parroted rallying cry from a specific political faction. It's an entirely different context.

Should also be mentioned that it was a rogue designer that stuck that on there, it wasn't done with Hasbro's approval and they quickly fixed it with a running change for the later wave when they found out.

Emerje


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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:18 am

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Although I dont collect SS, I do enjoy following the numbers they are assigned, and now that packaging art has been shown for all the SDCC reveals, that fills in several of the gaps. The only unassigned older numbers now are:

94 (This is likely DotM Hatchet) &
86-18 (TF:TM Hound)

Both of these are rumored to be Buzzworthy releases. But whether they end up being such or not, I just hope they are revealed soon.

The highest number from each sub-line (as far as I am aware) is:

106 (RotB Leader Class Optimus Primal)
86-24 (TF:TM Dead Ironhide) *Buzzworthy
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:45 pm

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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That's a pretty damn good job on The Fallen! The guy was really in need of that coat of paint.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:23 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:That's a pretty damn good job on The Fallen! The guy was really in need of that coat of paint.

BTW, do you have any trouble with the rear appendages that keeps unpegging or popping off the ball joints?


Thank you!

So not with the ball joint, but the connection to the back does like to come untabbed.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:20 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:That's a pretty damn good job on The Fallen! The guy was really in need of that coat of paint.

BTW, do you have any trouble with the rear appendages that keeps unpegging or popping off the ball joints?


Thank you!

So not with the ball joint, but the connection to the back does like to come untabbed.
Mine has trouble with both.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:09 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:That's a pretty damn good job on The Fallen! The guy was really in need of that coat of paint.

BTW, do you have any trouble with the rear appendages that keeps unpegging or popping off the ball joints?


Thank you!

So not with the ball joint, but the connection to the back does like to come untabbed.
Mine has trouble with both.

Mine has trouble with neither unless I really try to stretch out the arms
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:14 pm

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:13 pm

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Look who arrived a few weeks ahead of schedule from Amazon!

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:44 pm

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Here’s my custom core DOTM Bee!

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Rtron » Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:24 pm

Motto: "Stop, please."
Nice amount of detail for such a small figure.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:08 pm

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:19 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Nicely done! I too would like to see some more bayverse cores

Thanks! While it wouldn’t go with this particular Bee, a core class AOE/TLK Prime to scale with Grimlock would be really cool!

Rtron wrote:Nice amount of detail for such a small figure.

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:36 am

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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Munkky » Sun Jul 30, 2023 7:58 am

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I've been reading through the Q&A TFW did with Hasbro on the SDCC show floor, and two answers stood out to me in regards to Studio Series:

Q: For Gamer Edition, is it limited to just WFC or will FOC (Dinobots, Bruticus, etc) and all the Transformers games be included?
A: Pretty much all of it. Think the clear winner will probably be, everybody wants some Devastation stuff, we need to figure out how to do some cell shading for it. Continuing from WFC, think FOC is on the table. Team has even joked about doing Mystery of Convoy, doing some sort of dot deco or something like that. We have the Ultra Magnus now and we have the Rodimus from Kingdom, it’s like why not. Why not some N64 Transmetals too? We can get some of that in there, there’s a lot of options. If it’s been in a video game, we have the opportunity to look at it, taking a little bit of a cue from what the Star Wars team did with their gamer stuff. There’s no licensing issues, we own all of that, it’s all on the table for us. But with the live action movie stuff, there’s always that stuff going on, you still have to deal with Paramount and the licensors.

I do find it funny how a toyline originally made to celebrate the live-action movies could be how we eventually get new toys of the Beast Wars Transmetals. As a kid, I had more Transmetals than standard Beast mode toys, but the latter is personally what I prefer so I have no real desire for new Transmetals. The only Gamer Edition toys I'd really like are Fall of Cybertron Dinobots, because I like those designs more than G1.

Q: Overall, what are the Studio Series fig you’d most like to do?
A: For Bayverse – Sizing and scale wise, movie Ratchet needs to be a Voyager class.
For 86 – Definitely Optimus Prime.
For Rise of the Beasts – Would like to do Unicron’s minions, like the Scorponoks.

Good to know that at least one person at Hasbro (Evan) agrees with what I've been saying for years. Hopefully this happens and isn't too far away.
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Re: Transformers Studio Series Discussion

Postby Rtron » Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:35 am

Motto: "Stop, please."
I don't entirely get the "voyager movie Ratchet" opinion, outside of better engineering. He scales fine as he is right now. Ironhide is the one who is too big.
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