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[EvasionModeBumblebee]

A glorified accessory booster pack for Lockdown colored vaguely like Lockdown's generic goons It's the same BS they pulled with Ratchet and Starscream, albeit Starscream's redeco is actually canon.

Ok this is something I never understood, so Ratchet's "DOTM" deco is not in the film? He's still just yellowish green like the previous films?

Huh. TFwiki says he does have the altered paintjob (though with the yellow green still). In all my watches I somehow missed that

His DOTM repaint is canon. He has a more greeny-green than the yellow-green from the first 2 movies. He has this same shade of green in AOE. Here's a comparison:
DOTM/AOE:

MV1/ROTF:

SS DOTM Ratchet actually looked really good in person when I got VW Bee and Ironhide. I didn't pick him up then, but I think I will soon!

Edit: Added robot mode comparison

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Bonecrusher's body type isn't even one of the Constructicon types in the film!

My point about "Movie 1" Optimus is that he's more accurate to both movie 1 and ROTF than the original SS Optimus. And that Jetfire combines with him rather than the existing "ROTF" one because that one lacks the connectors; it'd be like trying to combine Godbomber with the original Hasbro Powermaster Optimus Prime.

I think we're dancing around the same point. Basically the frustration of lack of Forward thinking by Hasbro/Takara. The current SS RotF Prime should have been designed knowing that fans (like myself) would want to combine it with Jetfire. In fact they should have released Movie 1 Prime first, so there would be no need to combine with Jetfire.

And yes, I'll agree about the Titans Return part. I really wanted a new God Ginrai, and was hoping that Legends GB would combine with TR PM Prime, when I found out they didn't I put off buying it, until of course the announcement of the Siege on Cybertron set. If not for being able to pre-order that set, I would not have a God Ginrai right now.

1. They didn't know the line's fate for certain when they released the existing SS Prime, who was just half-assed in general.
2. Why would you want to combine the first SS Optimus Prime with Jetfire when it's an inferior half-assed figure that the so-called Movie 1 Optimus Prime is meant as a replacement for?
3. Seriously, there's no smegging difference in Optimus' body between Movie 1 and ROTF in the actual movies, so what the heck id your issue with using "movie 1" Optimus as both movie 1 AND RotF Optimus?!

[TF-fan kev777]

Bonecrusher's body type isn't even one of the Constructicon types in the film!

My point about "Movie 1" Optimus is that he's more accurate to both movie 1 and ROTF than the original SS Optimus. And that Jetfire combines with him rather than the existing "ROTF" one because that one lacks the connectors; it'd be like trying to combine Godbomber with the original Hasbro Powermaster Optimus Prime.

I think we're dancing around the same point. Basically the frustration of lack of Forward thinking by Hasbro/Takara. The current SS RotF Prime should have been designed knowing that fans (like myself) would want to combine it with Jetfire. In fact they should have released Movie 1 Prime first, so there would be no need to combine with Jetfire.

And yes, I'll agree about the Titans Return part. I really wanted a new God Ginrai, and was hoping that Legends GB would combine with TR PM Prime, when I found out they didn't I put off buying it, until of course the announcement of the Siege on Cybertron set. If not for being able to pre-order that set, I would not have a God Ginrai right now.

1. They didn't know the line's fate for certain when they released the existing SS Prime, who was just half-assed in general.
2. Why would you want to combine the first SS Optimus Prime with Jetfire when it's an inferior half-assed figure that the so-called Movie 1 Optimus Prime is meant as a replacement for?
3. Seriously, there's no smegging difference in Optimus' body between Movie 1 and ROTF in the actual movies, so what the heck id your issue with using "movie 1" Optimus as both movie 1 AND RotF Optimus?!

Taking a guess here as I have a touch of OCD myself, but I think his main compliant is that they named the one that combines with Jetfire Movie 1 Prime when ROTF Prime is the one who combined in the movie. He doesn't want the first SS Prime to combine with Jetfire, rather he wanted Hasbro to have enough foresight to have called the first Prime Movie 1 Prime so that the new Prime could be called ROFT Prime so the movie names match up. That's it.

Hasbro, if you are reading this, you know what you have to do. Build a time machine and fix this.

[ZeroWolf]

Bonecrusher's body type isn't even one of the Constructicon types in the film!

My point about "Movie 1" Optimus is that he's more accurate to both movie 1 and ROTF than the original SS Optimus. And that Jetfire combines with him rather than the existing "ROTF" one because that one lacks the connectors; it'd be like trying to combine Godbomber with the original Hasbro Powermaster Optimus Prime.

I think we're dancing around the same point. Basically the frustration of lack of Forward thinking by Hasbro/Takara. The current SS RotF Prime should have been designed knowing that fans (like myself) would want to combine it with Jetfire. In fact they should have released Movie 1 Prime first, so there would be no need to combine with Jetfire.

And yes, I'll agree about the Titans Return part. I really wanted a new God Ginrai, and was hoping that Legends GB would combine with TR PM Prime, when I found out they didn't I put off buying it, until of course the announcement of the Siege on Cybertron set. If not for being able to pre-order that set, I would not have a God Ginrai right now.

1. They didn't know the line's fate for certain when they released the existing SS Prime, who was just half-assed in general.
2. Why would you want to combine the first SS Optimus Prime with Jetfire when it's an inferior half-assed figure that the so-called Movie 1 Optimus Prime is meant as a replacement for?
3. Seriously, there's no smegging difference in Optimus' body between Movie 1 and ROTF in the actual movies, so what the heck id your issue with using "movie 1" Optimus as both movie 1 AND RotF Optimus?!

Taking a guess here as I have a touch of OCD myself, but I think his main compliant is that they named the one that combines with Jetfire Movie 1 Prime when ROTF Prime is the one who combined in the movie. He doesn't want the first SS Prime to combine with Jetfire, rather he wanted Hasbro to have enough foresight to have called the first Prime Movie 1 Prime so that the new Prime could be called ROFT Prime so the movie names match up. That's it.

Hasbro, if you are reading this, you know what you have to do. Build a time machine and fix this.

This is what it is for me, and there was another way to fix this, Call the new prime Egypt battle Optimus Prime and there you go.

[william-james88]

While Studio Series Voyager wave 4 has been available on Hasbro Toy Shop, the toys had yet to reach other retailers. It was, however, found today at Walmart in Canada in the Montreal area. This is the version that comes with the buzz saw weapon. Wave 4 consists of a redeco of Starscream featuring the the cybertronian glyph tattoos. He is repacked with ROTF Megatron. They are priced at $39.97 CAD. This is part of the current restock for the holidays Walmart is undergoing. You can see an image of the dedicated shelfspace below poplated with all four main lines, along with the G1 reissues.

[ZeroWolf]

You Canadians always get the best things!

[Ig89ninja]

You Canadians always get the best things!

Yeah! Why is that? I mean, I’m pretty sure Hasbro’s main headquarters is in Rhode Island, why aren’t they the first?

[Decepticon Stryker]

Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

[Spider5800]

Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

[Ig89ninja]

Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

They also have different types of legs, also, Crankcase has longer dreads

[Randomhero]

You Canadians always get the best things!

Yeah! Why is that? I mean, I’m pretty sure Hasbro’s main headquarters is in Rhode Island, why aren’t they the first?

Their headquarters isn’t a warehouse dude.their products aren’t located in Rhode Island.

[Decepticon Stryker]

Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

It's because I like SS Crankcase's deco better than just Berserker without an X.

[Nemesis Primal]

Alright, so now that all the news has calmed now, I feel safe to put my thoughts when there won't be more announcements every other hour.

Bonecrusher, Scrapmetal, and Shatter are definite buys for me, all three look great. I already talked about Bonecrusher, Scrapmetal looks really accurate to the concept art and I'm happy he exists, and Shatter's alt mode looks amazing. Rampage is a verrry tentative maybe. The design is growing on me, and I like the red-orange color, but I'd need a new name for him as the name Rampage to me is and always will be belonging to a crab/tank-cannibal man.

Devastator is not something I want, nor something I particularly like, but I'm glad he exists for those that do want him, and I'm glad it means good figures of all these insane Constructicon designs. I'm 100% on board for Hightower and the possible/probable Overload, although I still think a Deluxe Hightower like some people are speculating is too small. I'm also glad Cogman is coming for obvious availability reasons, although I already have the TLK one so I don't need to buy him again.

Now then, on to the real topic I want to talk about: the mysteries of the unrevealed figures. Shatter's reveal has solved the identity of the Deluxe Character B from the Takara listings, so that's taken care of. However, using what we have confirmed with Hasbro's number system, SS-31, SS-34, and SS-38 are all unknown. One of those has to be DotM Megatron, and while he technically could fit in as any of them, I think that he's most likely SS-34 since he was shown with Jetfire and that would seem to insinuate that he's in the same wave as him unless otherwise specified. If he isn't, then he's in a wave with only one new figure in-between releases we already know about (either between Crankcase and Bonecrusher or between Rampage and Cogman). SS-38 could possibly be another Constructicon, as we know there are 4 more that have yet to be officially shown and that one is Hightower, but whichever one it is would have to be a Voyager figure included in the same wave as Rampage, or a Leader in a one-new-figure wave. Other than those possibilities though, these numbers belong to figures we have yet to find out about, from official sources or leaks, and can't be Deluxe sized unless they're exclusives. That's pretty intriguing.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Now then, on to the real topic I want to talk about: the mysteries of the unrevealed figures. Shatter's reveal has solved the identity of the Deluxe Character B from the Takara listings, so that's taken care of. However, using what we have confirmed with Hasbro's number system, SS-31, SS-34, and SS-38 are all unknown. One of those has to be DotM Megatron, and while he technically could fit in as any of them, I think that he's most likely SS-34 since he was shown with Jetfire and that would seem to insinuate that he's in the same wave as him unless otherwise specified. If he isn't, then he's in a wave with only one new figure in-between releases we already know about (either between Crankcase and Bonecrusher or between Rampage and Cogman). SS-38 could possibly be another Constructicon, as we know there are 4 more that have yet to be officially shown and that one is Hightower, but whichever one it is would have to be a Voyager figure included in the same wave as Rampage, or a Leader in a one-new-figure wave. Other than those possibilities though, these numbers belong to figures we have yet to find out about, from official sources or leaks, and can't be Deluxe sized unless they're exclusives. That's pretty intriguing.

Hasbro does not use "SS-##", they just use numbers. Just saying

Speaking of which, let's run down listed characters that don't have either ID yet:

No TakaraTomy ID
40 Shatter
42 Constructicon Long Haul

No Hasbro ID
SS-27 Megatron
SS-30 Optimus Prime (yes, there's a third one)

No ID at all
Autobot Dino

31, 34 and 38 are open for Hasbro, SS-29, SS-34 and up for TakaraTomy. It all fits.

[william-james88]

What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

Is there a non-exclusive Drift? I only know about the set with the baby Dinobots. And good call about Hightower.

[Nemesis Primal]

Hasbro does not use "SS-##", they just use numbers. Just saying

That I just forgot as I started using the SS's after the Takara listings leaked, whoops.

Speaking of which, let's run down listed characters that don't have either ID yet:

No Hasbro ID
SS-27 Megatron
SS-30 Optimus Prime (yes, there's a third one)

No ID at all
Autobot Dino

What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

I also legitimately forgot about the third Optimus because I was annoyed there were three of them according to that leak and I tried to ignore that fact, but I did mention Megatron and Hightower. I don't think it would be the third OP though, that would be two OP releases in successive waves. Retail Drift and Dino I purposefully did not mention though, and I kinda stated why but I guess I'll point it out in more detail. Hasbro's numbering goes in order of both release date AND size class for each figure, with the numbers for exclusives seemingly being designated solely by release date. That's why when Wave 1 came out, all the numbers were in order, as they got released fairly close together and in order of size class. I assume that according to this, the 26-30 Deluxe wave, 31-32 Voyager wave, and assumed 34-35 Leader wave will get released about the same time, especially given their showing-off of Op and Jetfire combining. If 31 is Drift or Dino, then they either have to be part of the 26-29 wave, making it a wave of Deluxes with SIX unique figures, or they have to be an exclusive. We know because of the Amazon listings that Dino and that particular Drift are retail figures, so neither of them can be 31. Same thing with 34, if it isn't DotM Megatron for some reason. For it to be either of them, they would have to be exclusives again, or there would have to be a Deluxe wave in-between the announced 26-29 and 39-41 waves that would only include 1 new figure. We know from the Con panels that Hasbro considers the 26-29 wave to be Wave 1 for SS in 2019 and the 39-41 wave to be Wave 2, so there can't be non-exclusive Deluxes crammed in the middle.

The only possible spot where Dino or Drift could fit is as 38, and if that were the case, they would have to be a part of the Cogman-Shatter-Scrapmetal wave. If they are though, then it would make no sense for them to not have been shown with the rest of the new figures, and it would be a weird outlier compared to every other SS Deluxe wave, as every other Deluxe wave had all it's contents revealed at once.

Therefore, logically, Drift and Dino cannot be 31, 34, or 38, unless one or both of them are exclusives, and we already know that they aren't due to the Amazon leaks that revealed them in the first place. The only exception to this would be if Hasbro decided to treat one wave of Deluxes completely differently to the 5 other Deluxe waves in the line in terms of how they were revealed.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Thanks to our usual Weibo source TF-Factory, we have news the backs of the packagings have been revealed for the upcoming Studio Series deluxe class figures Barricade, Sideswipe, and World War II Bumblebee! These figures were revealed not too long ago, and feature a Movie 1 accurate Barricade, complete with wheel mace weapon and some Masterpiece inspired design touches, a Dark of the Moon accurate Sideswipe in his convertible Stingray mode complete with swords and blasters, and a new World War II Bumblebee figure based on his flashback scene from The Last Knight, though the new figure itself is not entirely accurate to either the movie or the concept art.

The other 2 figures from this wave, Clunker Bumblebee and Crankcase, were not included in the packaging images.

You can check out the packaging images below, and let us know what you think of these figures in the comments section below!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Of note, those are the backs of the European packaging as evidenced by the German.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Thanks to Youtube reviewerTFA1024 - The Transformers Addict, we have a new video review to share with you today, this time for the newly released Rebekahs Garage Bumblebee set! This set features another use of the original Studio Series 1976 Camaro Bumblebee figure, minus some paint apps in the feet and car mode, but now with a bunch of customizable parts and a crap load of stickers to decorate your figure to your specifications! It also comes with a figurine of Charlie from the new Bumblebee movie, albeit with a different hair style.

This figure is currently available for Pre-order on Entertainment Earth for $29.99, and is due out next month.

Check out the video review below, and let us know if you intend to pick this figure up in the comments section below!

[Sentinel_Primal]

I still plan on getting these 3. Barricade is obviously gonna be in the movie one display, Sideswipe was a favorite of mine in the RotF line, so getting a figure that can stand is nice, and I think the new Bee might go to my Generations display to serve as Bulkhead

[Spider5800]

Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

They also have different types of legs, also, Crankcase has longer dreads

They're literally the same character model, just a few minor pieces and color differences between them.



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crankcase_(DOTM)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Berserker

Are you thinking of Crowbar, who has the longer dreads (and whose toy they are using to make Crankcase, for some reason)?



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crowbar

What really confuses me is, there IS a character who has the same character model as Crowbar, Dreadbot from TLK. That would require some remolding for the vehicle parts, but it would make a heck of a lot more sense than trying to make him Crankcase.

[Ig89ninja]

Just found out that Berserker and Crowbar's heads can't be swapped without modification. Crowbar's ball joint neck is too small for Berserker's head, so there goes the plan of doing a headswap when I get Crankcase.

Why would you bother? As far as I can tell, the only difference between Crankcase and Berserker's movie models is the later has a red X on his chest. If you already have a second Berserker for the head, couldn't you just paint over the X and be done with it? Cause Hasbro's SS Crankcase is a joke.

They also have different types of legs, also, Crankcase has longer dreads

They're literally the same character model, just a few minor pieces and color differences between them.



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crankcase_(DOTM)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Berserker

Are you thinking of Crowbar, who has the longer dreads (and whose toy they are using to make Crankcase, for some reason)?



https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crowbar

What really confuses me is, there IS a character who has the same character model as Crowbar, Dreadbot from TLK. That would require some remolding for the vehicle parts, but it would make a heck of a lot more sense than trying to make him Crankcase.

Crap, I WAS thinking about Crowbar, stupid “C” names!

[Ig89ninja]

Double posted by mistake

[william-james88]

You Canadians always get the best things!

Yeah! Why is that? I mean, I’m pretty sure Hasbro’s main headquarters is in Rhode Island, why aren’t they the first?

They were the first, Hasbro got them first and sold them to the US first. We wrote an article about it:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... hop/42294/

What about non exclusive drift and hightower?

Is there a non-exclusive Drift?

Yes

https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07DJYJJML ... rtron0c-22