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Ironhidensh wrote:But will we ever get Skids and Mudflap? I get it, I absolutely hate their characters, but the robot modes were always intriguing to me.
Never say never, but I think it's very unlikely, considering how some fans perceive their characters. I think in the end it will come down to Hasbro weighing a potential backlash against the possible profits. If anything, they might be some kind of online exclusive. Or, they might get released in a set as smaller than deluxe figures, like the bikes. Then they might scale perfect with Devy.Ironhidensh wrote:But will we ever get Skids and Mudflap? I get it, I absolutely hate their characters, but the robot modes were always intriguing to me.
That's what the current AoE figure is. Obviously the on-screen transformation can't be duplicated by a toy, unless we use Legos.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Because he's an untransformable joke of a design
Not if his transformation was re-engineered. And it'll never happen because he wasn't a prominent-enough character, but I would love a leader class version. That truck mode would look beautiful if it was more detailed. Then again, Shockwave got one and Grimlock got one.that would require the toy either be an extreme shellformer or have a lot of delicate fiddly inversion joints that would be tough to cram into a Voyager.
That would be one of my reasons for hating AoE, along with the jerkishness of the new cast and the lack of followup on certain things from DotM.Rodimus Prime wrote:That's what the current AoE figure is. Obviously the on-screen transformation can't be duplicated by a toy, unless we use Legos.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Because he's an untransformable joke of a design![]()
In both their cases it was because of size. Which is the same reason a Leader AoE Galvatron isn't going to happen in Studio Series - unless Hasbro gave up and had a separate truck and action figure, it would be too big.Rodimus Prime wrote:Not if his transformation was re-engineered. And it'll never happen because he wasn't a prominent-enough character, but I would love a leader class version. Then again, Shocckwave got one and Grimlock got one.that would require the toy either be an extreme shellformer or have a lot of delicate fiddly inversion joints that would be tough to cram into a Voyager.
This pulls it off pretty well, but Hasbro could never put something like this out at retail.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And what do you mean by "if his transformation was re-engineered"? There isn't a transformation to re-engineer! There is absolutely nothing of the truck mode about his robot mode, and there aren't even any convenient panels to turn into parts of the vehicle mode... You'd have to essentially make his limbs and torso turn inside-out, which would be tricky at best even at Leader size.
Oh, they might have been able to do it as a Leader Class if the ROTF-HFTD level of engineering was being employed. And they could certainly put it out as an MPM.Autobot N wrote:This pulls it off pretty well, but Hasbro could never put something like this out at retail.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And what do you mean by "if his transformation was re-engineered"? There isn't a transformation to re-engineer! There is absolutely nothing of the truck mode about his robot mode, and there aren't even any convenient panels to turn into parts of the vehicle mode... You'd have to essentially make his limbs and torso turn inside-out, which would be tricky at best even at Leader size.
Well at least you agree that it can be done.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Oh, they might have been able to do it as a Leader Class if the ROTF-HFTD level of engineering was being employed. And they could certainly put it out as an MPM.Autobot N wrote:This pulls it off pretty well, but Hasbro could never put something like this out at retail.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And what do you mean by "if his transformation was re-engineered"? There isn't a transformation to re-engineer! There is absolutely nothing of the truck mode about his robot mode, and there aren't even any convenient panels to turn into parts of the vehicle mode... You'd have to essentially make his limbs and torso turn inside-out, which would be tricky at best even at Leader size.
Which is why I said I would love to see a leader class version.But definitely not as a Studio Series figure, especially since he would be relegated to Voyager size.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Except that Evasion Mode Prime still had truck bits in robot mod (And his disguise in altmode is not exactly the greatest). Evasion Mode Prime doesn't go from "Sleek modern cab-over" to "Robot that looks a lot like Megatron's first-movie robot mode and doesn't turn into anything earthly". The simple torso parts inverting of Evasion Optimus wouldn't be enough. All of Galvatron's limbs would have to turn themselves inside-out as well, and in complex ways that frankly I think are beyond Studio Series' average engineering level. Especially in a Voyager, which is what Galvatron would be because of the focus on robot mode scale.Sentinel_Primal wrote:Didn't Evasion Mode Prime basically turn himself inside out with the robot mode details being inside the truck cab in vehicle mode, and the cab details tucking into the robot mode torso? A potential Galvatron might be able to tap into that and maybe Siege Prime's legs to try and hide the wheels
Ironhidensh wrote:But will we ever get Skids and Mudflap? I get it, I absolutely hate their characters, but the robot modes were always intriguing to me.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mind you, that does still make him a pass for me, because the ROTF Leader Optimus is still my primary movieverse Optimus... The scale shift has made a lot of Studio Series a pass for me.
He was too tall for Megs, but scales perfectly with Sentinel, IMO.Cheesinator wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mind you, that does still make him a pass for me, because the ROTF Leader Optimus is still my primary movieverse Optimus... The scale shift has made a lot of Studio Series a pass for me.
Is there any figure that accurately scales to ROTF Optimus? I thought he was too tall even for the ROTF leader Megs and DOTM leader Sentinel.
Those two scale with him as good as can get. DOTM Leader Ironhide also scales with him. Battle Blade Bumblebee and ROTF Sideswipe and Jolt do as well.Cheesinator wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Mind you, that does still make him a pass for me, because the ROTF Leader Optimus is still my primary movieverse Optimus... The scale shift has made a lot of Studio Series a pass for me.
Is there any figure that accurately scales to ROTF Optimus? I thought he was too tall even for the ROTF leader Megs and DOTM leader Sentinel.
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True, but isn't that what's the biggest thing about Studio Series? Proper scale, at least in robot mode? I thought Hasbro made a conscious effort to focus on that in the line.Ironhidensh wrote:Guys, its been over 35 years. We should all know by now that any "scale" in Transformer toys is, at best, sliding.
Rodimus Prime wrote:True, but isn't that what's the biggest thing about Studio Series? Proper scale, at least in robot mode? I thought Hasbro made a conscious effort to focus on that in the line.Ironhidensh wrote:Guys, its been over 35 years. We should all know by now that any "scale" in Transformer toys is, at best, sliding.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Well, his vehicle mode is more-or-less in scale (being 1:29 to Optimus' 1:31). He is a bit big next to Optimus in robot mode, moreso than the scale chart would suggest...Rodimus Prime wrote:DoTM Ironhide is too big for proper scale with the Primes, he should have been the same size as the cab for Ultimate Prime.
Ahhh, Ultra Class. The lost size. Animated could have also done with it, frankly. But no, it was abandoned after the Universe Onslaught and Silverbolt molds were developed.Rodimus Prime wrote:Larger than a voyager, smaller than a leader. But the movie figures don't have an in-between size, except maybe Battle Blades.
Bigger, but not monstrously so. And mainly in terms of bulk rather than height. The Forest Battle shows them to be fairly close hieght-wise (see this still).Rodimus Prime wrote:In RoTF Megatron was also bigger than Prime, those leaders aren't to accurate scale either.
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