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[skycutter]

As many others have stated, this really makes no sense. Why put these in the studio series and not the wrc trilogy? We have already seen an image of Galvatron on the earhrise box art, and it makes sense that the next series would be movie/post movie stuff. Unless they skip to beast wars.

On the other hand, the studio series line is running out of bots to make... Aside from the obligatory bazillion bumblebee repaints.

it probably like this, there making room for beast wars in wfc 3, while also keeping some bayverse character to mix with the new movie coming out, whenever it does, for studio series

[loof]

Hey guys, new here. Finally decided to hop in after TFW became a war zone over the '86 characters. This place seems so much tamer and I've been a watcher.

I personally am sad they're tossing more G1 in. Don't we have enough G1? Wasn't SS so much better as the movie fan's dream?

But I'll certainly forgive if WFC3 is complete Beast Wars.

[Tuned Agent]

it probably like this, there making room for beast wars in wfc 3, while also keeping some bayverse character to mix with the new movie coming out, whenever it does, for studio series

Somebody else mentioned this too a couple pages back, and the more I think about it... the more I think you guys might be on to something. What if WFC part 3 is going to be devoted to Beast Wars' 25th anniversary? Since next year is also the 35th anniversary of the 86 movie, and since they probably want to still have some G1 on the shelves, maybe they decided to just mix those figures in with the bayformers in Studio Series with the excuse that they're "still movie figures"? I mean, we know a new Cheetor is coming in the Netflix line, and since that's a line made up of redecos I think we can expect Cheetor in the mainline, perhaps the third part. What if Cheetor isn't actually a one-off, and the precursor of much more to come next year? If this happens, I think things will turn out alright. While I agree with a lot of fans concerns about this, I think it's a bit early to say the sky is falling.

[Grahf_]

I wouldn't mind some Studio Series Predacons Rising figures myself.

[Nemesis Primal]

Jtprime's probably going to pop up in a few minutes with more listings, but I happened to catch a glance at TFW and spoiler alert: everyone who's been waiting this whole time for Dino is about to be REAL happy.

[skycutter]

Jtprime's probably going to pop up in a few minutes with more listings, but I happened to catch a glance at TFW and spoiler alert: everyone who's been waiting this whole time for Dino is about to be REAL happy.

if it not another codename

[Tuned Agent]

Jtprime's probably going to pop up in a few minutes with more listings, but I happened to catch a glance at TFW and spoiler alert: everyone who's been waiting this whole time for Dino is about to be REAL happy.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

If that Dino listing is true, then I don't think I can complain about the 86 figures. Freaking DINO?! After all these years?! On top of all the other cool Bayverse listings that just showed up?

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[william-james88]

If that Dino listing is true, then I don't think I can complain about the 86 figures. Freaking DINO?! After all these years?! On top of all the other cool Bayverse listings that just showed up?

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Ferrari or GTFO!

[Rtron]

That tf2 error makes me suspicious. What if they just misnamed Sideways? Or is just a red repaint of some RotF SS mold?

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

That tf2 error makes me suspicious. What if they just misnamed Sideways? Or is just a red repaint of some RotF SS mold?

I think a typo with the movie number is more likely than the name, hopefully it's an actual DOTM Dino.

Considering that we've had 5 deluxe Bayverse listings and 1 deluxe 86 listing, and SS waves thus far have had a max of 5 deluxes, I think it's possible that the 86 stuff will be a subline and not included with the waves/numbering of the other SS stuff.

[Rodimus Prime]

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction? Could we see a Titan Class SS figure in the future? Like maybe that Devy box set that was brought up before? Or *gasp* Shockwave's driller that either Shockwave might actually fit into somehow? I can't really think of any more G1 candidates for Titan Class, besides repaints. Even though I wish Armada Tidal Wave was considered. Yeah, this is all way out there, but I have an active imagination.

[Jeddostotle7]

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction? Could we see a Titan Class SS figure in the future? Like maybe that Devy box set that was brought up before? Or *gasp* Shockwave's driller that either Shockwave might actually fit into somehow? I can't really think of any more G1 candidates for Titan Class, besides repaints. Even though I wish Armada Tidal Wave was considered. Yeah, this is all way out there, but I have an active imagination.

It would be cool to see a Studio Series Titan class release, but with the Devy boxset's pricetag of $300-something, it is way beyond Titan class.

[Sentinel_Primal]

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction? Could we see a Titan Class SS figure in the future? Like maybe that Devy box set that was brought up before? Or *gasp* Shockwave's driller that either Shockwave might actually fit into somehow? I can't really think of any more G1 candidates for Titan Class, besides repaints. Even though I wish Armada Tidal Wave was considered. Yeah, this is all way out there, but I have an active imagination.

... Great, now I'm gonna be hoping for more Beast Wars, and a titan class Dragonstorm combiner I doubt the Driller will be considered because of how it can't transform, but that'd be cool too

[william-james88]

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction?

Don't most fans think the Bumblebee movie is not part of Bayverse? Because if so then SS has involved non Bayverse for a while.

[Deadput]

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction?

Don't most fans think the Bumblebee movie is not part of Bayverse? Because if so then SS has involved non Bayverse for a while.

While that's the preferred mindset, there is no doubt that Bumblebee was once meant to be part of it and at the very least the first few BB movie figures (Bee and Helicoptor Dropkick) were made in mind for that.

Although I think the whole 1986 thing just confirms that Studio Series can probably apply to any Transformers movie not just the live action ones now.

Also if Dino is coming I will be so happy, him and Jolt are my two fave Autobot designs in the franchise period, I need my two blady-whip bois.

[Rodimus Prime]

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction? Could we see a Titan Class SS figure in the future? Like maybe that Devy box set that was brought up before? Or *gasp* Shockwave's driller that either Shockwave might actually fit into somehow? I can't really think of any more G1 candidates for Titan Class, besides repaints. Even though I wish Armada Tidal Wave was considered. Yeah, this is all way out there, but I have an active imagination.

... Great, now I'm gonna be hoping for more Beast Wars, and a titan class Dragonstorm combiner

wow I actually forgot about that. It's supposed to be 12 of them combined, right? Do 12 deluxes make a Titan Class? Price-wise it would be $240, so probably not, unless they drop the price since there's no need for individual packaging.

I doubt the Driller will be considered because of how it can't transform, but that'd be cool too

How do you know it can't? Just because we didn't see it on screen doesn't mean it can't. Unless it was specified in a comic or something. Shockwave never transformed either, but he got a half-assed vehicle mode. Maybe they can use the expand/contract mechanism they used for Commander Class Sky Lynx's neck to turn him from a giant snake to some kind of space vehicle for Shockwave to fly in.

How about a Titan Class Infernocus? Or at least a Commander Class.

[Burn]

I get the rage at the thought of the '86 movie being included in SS, and I support that rage.

But I have to wonder why so many support Studio Series. When a movie is out, they release figures, then a handful of years later, they appear in SS as much better versions.

Why then, is there no rage against Hasbro for putting out a product, only to improve on it less than 10 years later?

[Sentinel_Primal]

I doubt the Driller will be considered because of how it can't transform, but that'd be cool too

How do you know it can't? Just because we didn't see it on screen doesn't mean it can't. Unless it was specified in a comic or something. Shockwave never transformed either, but he got a half-assed vehicle mode. Maybe they can use the expand/contract mechanism they used for Commander Class Sky Lynx's neck to turn him from a giant snake to some kind of space vehicle for Shockwave to fly in.

How about a Titan Class Infernocus? Or at least a Commander Class.

Honestly I forgot that Shockwave didn't transform in the movie. I haven't rewatched the movies in a a couple years, but now that you mention the expanding/contracting idea, I could see it being a "Cybertronian Drill Tank" or something. It'd be interesting to see

[ZeroWolf]

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction?

Don't most fans think the Bumblebee movie is not part of Bayverse? Because if so then SS has involved non Bayverse for a while.

While that's the preferred mindset, there is no doubt that Bumblebee was once meant to be part of it and at the very least the first few BB movie figures (Bee and Helicoptor Dropkick) were made in mind for that.

Although I think the whole 1986 thing just confirms that Studio Series can probably apply to any Transformers movie not just the live action ones now.

Also if Dino is coming I will be so happy, him and Jolt are my two fave Autobot designs in the franchise period, I need my two blady-whip bois.

Well you say all movies but there isn't exactly a big number of other movies besides the ones that started in 07. You have the 86 movie... And...the Beast Wars II movie... That's it I also can't see BWII toys popping up as that movie was only ever released in Japan, which leaves us with... The 86 movie. I see people throwing out Predacons Rising but that was only a TV movie, was never released in theatres like all the rest (and the new ones coming)

[Sentinel_Primal]

I get the rage at the thought of the '86 movie being included in SS, and I support that rage.

But I have to wonder why so many support Studio Series. When a movie is out, they release figures, then a handful of years later, they appear in SS as much better versions.

Why then, is there no rage against Hasbro for putting out a product, only to improve on it less than 10 years later?

Honestly, I think it's because it's such a drastic update in some cases. I had the ROTF Optimus voyager repaint, but there's no comparison between that and Studio Series Prime. Some of them get the "premium paint" like Nitro Zeus and Cogman, but mostly it's improved versions that are still different enough to justify it. Though, I remember how mad I was when they announced Jetfire that I had to get a second Studio Series Prime that only had a couple changes.

Though, these days Hasbro's able to sell me on G1 Prime's dead body, so I feel like my opinion's lost whatever value it held

[Rodimus Prime]

Why then, is there no rage against Hasbro for putting out a product, only to improve on it less than 10 years later?

I can't speak for anyone else, but from me there's no rage for a few reasons:

1) I'm not that vested in the movie figures, because I'm not that vested in the characters they're based on or the movies themselves. So even though I have a box full of loose figures from the lines of the first 3 films, I still bought a bunch of SS stuff. Too many, in fact. I have Primes and Megatrons from the Wahlberg films, but that's about it. However, I have lost much of the zeal for them, and 90% of them will be going on the market here soon. (So if any of you want any movie figures that are reasonably priced, PM me or look for my BST thread. )

2) Engineering and design have improved quite a bit since 2007. Hell, there was even a big difference between the toys of the 1st movie and DoTM. So even though they're figures of the same characters, the SS versions are much improved upon. And we all know the Transformers fan's never-ending pursuit of the perfect figure/line. It allowed us all to get suckered into Masterpiece.

3) Hasbro's need/obsession of streamlining. In other lines and fiction, they call it Aligning. With SS every figure from all movies are to scale with each other in robot mode, designed to on-screen accuracy. So every figure, no matter which character it represents, has a definite spot in the Bayverse collection. Whereas Generations represents a hodgepodge of characters and continuities, SS is like 1 huge puzzle, with all the figures involved being a specific piece. And all the pieces have to be just right, otherwise the puzzle doesn't work. Once SS is said and done, those who got every single figure will be able to set up a giant table and put all the figures on it in a huge display and they will have the perfect Bayverse 3D puzzle.

I'm sure there are other reasons, for me those come to mind. At this time I'm debating whether to keep collecting SS or give up, because having every figure will be a very costly project. And honestly, I'm not a big fan of the movies. I enjoy watching them about once a year and that's it.

[Evil Eye]

Speaking as someone that likes having options and just likes cool toys, the whole upgrade thing doesn't bother me massively. Advances in technology are inevitable, it makes sense that a toy from a decade ago could do with a modern remake. Things like Cogman are slightly more annoying (in a "Why didn't we get this mold painted like that to begin with!??!" way) but it's still nice to get them done properly eventually.

[blackeyedprime]

I'm not sure I can consider studio series upgrades from the figures I've had, they are pretty much more budget type versions of older figures at a higher price tag.

Ss ratchet really sucked and was out of scale, the first ratchet being a voyager might be an unfair comparrison but when it was cheaper than the studio series it's another low blow.
Mixmasters truck mode pales in comparrison, yeagh it can combine now but its not as though completed devy is great.
Sideswipe vs the mech alive/moving pistons figure was also a down grade.
Ss first Camaro bee that may look better than some other bees but falls apart.

[TulioDude]

A Titan-Class Dragonstorm would be awesome,but he would be even more intricate than Devastator.

So I just thought of something. Since now there's a way for SS to involve non-Bayverse characters, can this merger of sorts work in the other direction?

Don't most fans think the Bumblebee movie is not part of Bayverse? Because if so then SS has involved non Bayverse for a while.

While that's the preferred mindset, there is no doubt that Bumblebee was once meant to be part of it and at the very least the first few BB movie figures (Bee and Helicoptor Dropkick) were made in mind for that.

While I can agree that continuity could have been better established,saying that Bumblebee is completely separate,is mostly fanon.I see some people repeating that in hope that becomes canon.