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ZeroWolf wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
This is very true plus till the movie comes out we won't know what needs explaining from AoE.
Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.
Burn wrote:Kurona wrote:Is this just like, gonna be a thing now? Just everyone hate the Transformers in every movie?
Given how much death and destruction they've caused, why would they be welcomed with open arms?
Carnivius_Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
Randomhero wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
At least they aren't as bad as the x-men movies with continuity. You gotta shut your brain off to ignore all the problems with those movies.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
Carnivius_Prime wrote:SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
Yeah, but it's like Man of Steel, where human lives don't matter
Microraptor wrote:
The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Microraptor wrote:
The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
Realistically we would of killed all of the Autobots by this point instead of working with them at all in a program like Nest.
Plus not all Humans hate them just a few civilians mostly those affected by the attacks and Cemetery Wind which was it's own rogue operation independent from the government mostly (otherwise how would they have gotten away with killing allies?)
We are Humans we are A-holes that tend to shun/kill everything we consider outsiders I mean I remember when I was a kid and until I was around grade 8 I was pretty racist and I kinda looked down on people with other skin color I have changed since but my point is that we tend to be bad.
Microraptor wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
Yeah, but it's like Man of Steel, where human lives don't matter
The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Kurona wrote:I guess it annoys me a bit because I really prefer team-ups to conflict.
Like, yeah okay conflict makes sense; but it should be temporary and not necessarily the main focus - when it comes to what is essentially two good guys I do eventually like to see them team up.
For instance, Batman vs. Superman. Not the movie, I don't think anyone here wants to talk about that; just the general concept of those two fighting. The conflict makes a lot of sense - if they were meeting for the first time, it might come down to it due to their wildly different beliefs and philosophies. However, at the end of the day, they come to terms with their differences, learn to accept them and decide to battle with each other rather than against in order to take down the real threat.
That's what I like to see. Maybe it's not realistic to what actually happens in the real world, but that's the whole point - it's representative of what should happen in the real world. We should realise that despite our differences, we're better working together towards a certain goal; we essentially want the same thing; and our differences mean we can all bring something unique and positive to the table and to the discussion. That's why it's annoying for me to see humans constantly hating the aliens, whether Transformers or otherwise - sure, it makes sense; and I'd honestly be a little annoyed if it didn't happen at some point because yes, it's realistic for at least some conflict to exist beforehand. But there's gotta be a point where they understand that it's not what they should be doing.
... HOO boy I did not expect to get into my personal beliefs and philosophies on a live-action transformers movie thread haha. but yeah, tldr humans + transformers is way cooler and more interesting than humans vs transformers.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ZeroWolf wrote:The halo example isn't really apt as the elites switched sides towards the end of that war, after they had already been quite content killing humans for a while.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
That deco has already been done in toy form.primematrix1986 wrote:Looks good, don't get me wrong...but I look at this as a missed opportunity to bring in Soundblaster. Soundwave was a Mercedes SLS BMG (from what I remember). Paint the car black, change it some, and boom - Soundblaster.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That deco has already been done in toy form.primematrix1986 wrote:Looks good, don't get me wrong...but I look at this as a missed opportunity to bring in Soundblaster. Soundwave was a Mercedes SLS BMG (from what I remember). Paint the car black, change it some, and boom - Soundblaster.
Though, the ROTF Soundwave toy got both a blue redeco (twice) and a black redeco.Kurona wrote:That's... surprising. They went with a Soundblaster homage instead of a G1-accurate Soundwave homage?
Not that I'm complaining, looks great
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
SlyTF1 wrote:The true nature of man is hate. Look at every side of every conflict in human history. No matter what side you on, your motives are dictated by hate. Why should a movie portray mankind as anything more or less?
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