The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

Crosshairs was called out by name when they were on Lockdown's ship.

The only time Drift's name was used was in the scene leading up to Galvatron's attack, and it was on the aerial viewscreen the humans were using.

Hound was used a good bit

YES, I do remember that part on the screen! No wonder it was odd to hear it hadnt been used. Since it was so clear there, but yeah it was never mentioned by anyone.

[TulioDude]

"Arcee Twins" (are actually Triplets...) but whatever

In the context of that scene in ROTF,Lennox refers to all of the bikes as Arcee,like a single entity and is calling out the tiwns,Skids and Mudflap.
About all the bikes being Arcee was canon at some point.

[o.supreme]

But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

[william-james88]

But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.

[Sabrblade]

But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.

Agreed.

Not to mention that immediately after that order was given, we see first the Arcee bikes and then the Twins in their ice cream truck configuration both chasing after Sideways. The rest of the order given was "Target coming your way!" and in the scene, Sideways is indeed driving in the direction towards the Twins before turning away from them as one of them says "'Kay, I got'em, I got'em," while Arcee's three bikes only ever follow behind Sideways the whole time, meaning the target wasn't coming Arcee's way but instead the Twins' way since Sideways was only ever seen driving away from Arcee while he nearly ran into Skids and Mudflap before turning away from them.

[william-james88]

But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.

Agreed.

Not to mention that immediately after that order was given, we see first the Arcee bikes and then the Twins in their ice cream truck configuration both chasing after Sideways. The rest of the order given was "Target coming your way!" and in the scene, Sideways is indeed driving in the direction towards the Twins before turning away from them as one of them says "'Kay, I got'em, I got'em," while Arcee's three bikes only ever follow behind Sideways the whole time, meaning the target wasn't coming Arcee's way but instead the Twins' way since Sideways was only ever seen driving away from Arcee while he nearly ran into Skids and Mudflap before turning away from them.

I hate that scene. The deception car had no chance, we never even saw its robot form right. It was just a car that got sliced in half.

[X3ROhour]

Making a good TRANSFORMERS film is simple.

1) Character development. of the robots! THEY R PEOPLE, not shiny wallpaper to explode.

b) no humans

thirdly... care about what u r doing.

[william-james88]

Making a good TRANSFORMERS film is simple.

1) Character development. of the robots! THEY R PEOPLE, not shiny wallpaper to explode.

b) no humans

thirdly... care about what u r doing.

G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?

[Kurona]

To be fair, Transformers fiction often seems to be better when there's no humans - or at least has their involvement be minimal. Many would hold up Beast Wars as the best cartoon and the only 'humans' in that were introduced very near the end and actually factored in as a plot point rather than being a forced human friend or setting.
And then there's the MTMTE comics which, by virtue of their setting, never have any humans in it. Period. Don't even think about saying holomatter avatars
That said... I do believe it can be done well. Sari in Animated was a good example imo, and I think that the Headmaster/Targetmaster/Powermaster/anything-master format holds a lot of potential. The problem is that most of the time human companions are a forced necessity that feel in the way and annoying rather than doing anything to add to or progress the story - what makes Sari and the -masters so good is that they do in some way tie into and progress the story rather than just being a forced necessary evil.
The humans in Bayformers... well, I understand why they're there. You can't as easily make a movie focusing purely on the Cybertronians, the CGI budget would need to be astronomical for that - so you need some scenes with humans. But imagine we're in a world where that budget does exist. I challenge even those who like the movies here; would taking out the humans in the movies be a negative in any way, cost and popularity aside? Because I honestly don't see a single good thing the human characters add to the movies in a purely story/character-focused sense.

[Sabrblade]

As I've previously referred to the Rescue Bots cartoon as being pretty much the antithesis of the movies, it's also pretty much the definitive win-all answer to how to have GOOD humans used WELL in Transformers fiction.

G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?

Humans or no, as a movie it's nothing great by any standard other than animation and music, I'll say.

[Kurona]

G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?

Humans or no, as a movie it's nothing great by any standard other than animation and music, I'll say.

Unpopular opinion but something I agree with, aye. Much like the cartoon itself I find it a fun little thing to watch but nothing to take particularly seriously; it's pretty standard stuff (though also with the non-standard MASS KILLING SPREE OF YOUR FAVOURITE CHARACTERS OH MY GOD HASBRO CALM DOWN)
... though what it also has that the cartoon doesn't is a ridiculously amazing soundtrack that fills you with 80s glee. I was born in 1996 and I can feel the 80s; let's not even get started on how Hot Rod's vehicle mode is the most ridiculously over-the-top meld of cheesy, what people thought the future would be and hot 80s awesomeness.

[Stuartmaximus]

whaa? 1996? christ! your just a young un! barely even 20

[Burn]

Please keep the topic related to The Last Knight.

[Stuartmaximus]

I thought i was,

are you trying to tell me that there's no 20 year old people born around 1996 appearing in the film? a film btw which NOONE!! has seen yet

[Burn]

I thought i was,

are you trying to tell me that there's no 20 year old people born around 1996 appearing in the film? a film btw which NOONE!! has seen yet

It was a generalised comment not specifically aimed at any one particular person but rather a bunch of people who were carrying on a conversation that clearly had nothing to do with The Last Knight.

[Stuartmaximus]

I thought i was,

are you trying to tell me that there's no 20 year old people born around 1996 appearing in the film? a film btw which NOONE!! has seen yet

It was a generalised comment not specifically aimed at any one particular person but rather a bunch of people who were carrying on a conversation that clearly had nothing to do with The Last Knight.

Ah right, ok, no probs

[william-james88]

The 2016 Brand Licensing Expo is on and Hasbro has a big display. For Transformers fans, the biggest take away so far are new character portraits based on what Megatron, Bumblebee and Optimus will look like in the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight film. These are giant cardboard cut outs and they are very reminiscent of the character profiles from Age of Extinction promotional posters. These were found on arun09345's instagram page.

Enjoy!

[Kurona]

These look like the kind of things that would be on the characters' toy packaging. Especially Megatron's.

[Bumblebee21]

bumblebee same look same pose.
optimus same look same pose .
megatron same pose ugly face.
i dont see a difference except for megatron and bumblebees new chest.

[Sabrblade]

The horns on Megatron's helmet are making me think of a ram.

[ricemazter]

Looking at these more simplified versions of th movie designs, I think, really highlights the worsening flaws in the bayformers visual philosophy. NO CAR PARTS. STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE.

Optimus and megstron don't look capable of transforming into anything, and the effects on bumblebee are starting to show.

[Sigma Magnus]

Looking at these more simplified versions of th movie designs, I think, really highlights the worsening flaws in the bayformers visual philosophy. NO CAR PARTS. STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE.

Optimus and megstron don't look capable of transforming into anything, and the effects on bumblebee are starting to show.

THIS.

...I don't hate these designs, they're growing on me but...they don't look like they transform anymore. Almost like they got turned into Action Masters or something...it's not really a deal-breaker (yet), but it's getting annoying...

[Hellscream9999]

Looking at these more simplified versions of th movie designs, I think, really highlights the worsening flaws in the bayformers visual philosophy. NO CAR PARTS. STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE.

Optimus and megstron don't look capable of transforming into anything, and the effects on bumblebee are starting to show.

I agree with you, but, to be fair, we don't know what Megs turns into. It could be something pseudo-organic, like the dragon we saw on the poster from a a while ago (keeping in theme with the very subtle knights undertone )

[Tyrannacon]

I don't hate them, and really I want to see how they look in the final film before I develop an opinion totally. I know I liked Megatron's RotF design the most, but his jet/spaceship design in the 07 movie was what I preferred until RotF came out. DotM design was...well... it was a truck and I feel like Optimus Prime should always be a truck or so. It was an interesting change though I guess.

The horns on Megatron's helmet are making me think of a ram.

He does have a very "Ultron-esque" look in my opinion. Doesn't make it instantly terrible and ruined forever. I'd kind of like if they gave him a more G1 inspired look now though, but that's wishful thinking at this point.

[NovamusPrime3]

megs what happened????????? optimus does look kind of good though.