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[Deadput]

Yeah, again; no-one really stays dead. If they wanna bring someone back, they'll bring someone back. I'm fully expecting Soundwave and Starscream to be in this movie somehow...

They wont only Prime, Megatron and Sam have been brought back from death and all in the same movie not including the Galvatron thing.


Jazz is dead, Ironhide is dead, Ratchet is Dead, Starscream and Soundwave will stay dead too.

[Deadput]

"that has only happened four times"
"only"

Honestly mate, if they wanna bring back a character, they will. Death won't stop them, especially in a movie where it's just a big blockbuster they'd want big names like Soundwave to advertise and draw people in. Enjoy the movies' plot if you want; but you've gotta realize that it's really not made to be brilliant with lasting impact. Death has not, is not and never will be an issue for this type of movie.

Bullshit!


If that was the case they would not kill Soundwave off and he would have made a bigger impact in the movies he was in and they would have brought him back in AOE Bay could have brought Jazz back but did not because death is permanent in these films with only the leaders being exceptions.

[Kurona]

Yeah, again; no-one really stays dead. If they wanna bring someone back, they'll bring someone back. I'm fully expecting Soundwave and Starscream to be in this movie somehow...

They wont only Prime, Megatron and Sam have been brought back from death and all in the same movie not including the Galvatron thing.


Jazz is dead, Ironhide is dead, Ratchet is Dead, Starscream and Soundwave will stay dead too.

Why are you sure they won't? Why are you so sure they really care so much about silly little things like continuity and story in this sort of movie?
Again, enjoy the story and characters if you will... but you're kinda deluding yourself if you think they take any sort of priority.

[Deadput]

Why are you sure they won't? Why are you so sure they really care so much about silly little things like continuity and story in this sort of movie?
Again, enjoy the story and characters if you will... but you're kinda deluding yourself if you think they take any sort of priority.

And why are you sure they would bring them back?


It's movie 5 if they were going to bring them back they would of plus there are more Transformers in history then the big names give the lower b guys a chance eh?

[Kurona]

Why are you sure they won't? Why are you so sure they really care so much about silly little things like continuity and story in this sort of movie?
Again, enjoy the story and characters if you will... but you're kinda deluding yourself if you think they take any sort of priority.

And why are you sure they would bring them back?


It's movie 5 if they were going to bring them back they would of plus there are more Transformers in history then the big names give the lower b guys a chance eh?

I'm not sure they'll bring them back. I'm just sure that if they WANTED to, they wouldn't let anything stop them. They'd come up with some rubbish to revive them.

And yeah, I'd love to give some of the lower guys a chance. I actually wish more Transformers fiction would do that and it's one of the reasons why I love IDW's MTMTE so much; it brings life and personality to a lot of characters who previously had practically no fictional appearances at all. But it's the movies. The movies' sole purpose is to make money. There's no real care for plot and character; no real care for doing anything original or making particularly amazing or stylistic directing; it's just all for the money. That's why they're a heck of a lot more likely to bring back guys like Starscream than start using Sureshot or Siren or Runamuck or whatever. They could - and, in fact, the last movie did feature a Crosshairs in a starring role - but they're more likely to use characters that are a lot more recognisable.
Again, like it if you want, I can't stop you; just realise that they're doing it for the money and plot and continuity isn't going to stop them from doing whatever they want.


Anyway, this is a bit derailed. We literally just got news a few hours ago and already we've gotten back into an unrelated argument this thread seems to generate. How did we get on this optic anyway

[Deadput]

That's because this is the movie thread we go bap**** crazy here at one point or another.

[Decepticon Stryker]

Please become Bruticus. Please become Bruticus. Please become Bruticus.

[DeathReviews]

After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

[JazZeke]

After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Unless you strap a legless transformer onto it, but let's be honest, that's just a redundant step.

[Hellscream9999]

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Bro... You must not know how to tow truck properly



Yeah, I'd definitely take this over a missile truck

[Deadput]

After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Things change get over it it's the 5th movie you should be able to see the **** pattern by now.


I don't see people complaining about Breakdown being a truck in Prime and people love him despite him also being almost without character outside of some hints.

[Sabrblade]

After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Things change get over it it's the 5th movie you should be able to see the **** pattern by now.


I don't see people complaining about Breakdown being a truck in Prime and people love him despite him also being almost without character outside of some hints.

Must you pacify everybody's opinions, man? Just because they think differently doesn't mean you gotta silence every one of them. If they don't like something, then let it go.

[Deadput]

Must you pacify everybody's opinions, man? Just because they think differently doesn't mean you gotta silence every one of them. If they don't like something, then let it go.

I gotta speak out man only way to vent when I don't agree with other opinions and since I'm part of the unpopular opinion club most of the time that happens a lot.

Can't ignore things I'm sick of just putting what frustrates me in the back of my head it drives me crazy and I don't want to yell in my house and get my family mad at me again.

[JazZeke]

After what the Bayverse did to Devastator, I never presume that they're going to get it right when making over a Transformer into 'their' interpretation. The fact that they're making Onslaught a tow truck instead of a missile trailer? Doesn't bode well.

Not sure of the reasoning. I mean, when I want a 'combat vehicle' I don't think 'Gee, I'd better get a TOW TRUCK'...

Things change get over it it's the 5th movie you should be able to see the **** pattern by now.


I don't see people complaining about Breakdown being a truck in Prime and people love him despite him also being almost without character outside of some hints.

Prime Breakdown and G1 Breakdown are entirely different characters who just share the same name. They're obviously not alternate reality versions of the same dude. Hasbro has to recycle names to keep the rights to them. The fandom has been used to that ever since Beast Wars.

[Deadput]

Are they used to it?

From what I hear I think most people are still giving the movies a hard time yet give everything else a pass because "oh it's just a cartoon we don't expect them to be amazing"

People still fail to realize that the movies only have a few hours of screen time compared to the several days worth of cartoon.

This community is going to ruin one of my two only hobbies for me someday.

[Va'al]

Must you pacify everybody's opinions, man? Just because they think differently doesn't mean you gotta silence every one of them. If they don't like something, then let it go.

I gotta speak out man only way to vent when I don't agree with other opinions and since I'm part of the unpopular opinion club most of the time that happens a lot.

Can't ignore things I'm sick of just putting what frustrates me in the back of my head it drives me crazy and I don't want to yell in my house and get my family mad at me again.

Ok, that is understandable. However, if you start out with this frame of mind:

This community is going to ruin one of my two only hobbies for me someday.

That's because this is the movie thread we go bap**** crazy here at one point or another.

..you're not really helping either.
(Also: hi, you are part of the community. You're keeping the conversation going. Don't dump blame on others for things you are participating in.)

[Va'al]

Via a number of social media platforms, including Facebook and Instagram, for Transformers: The Last Knight, we got a live video (still available now though) of director Michael Bay, and actors Jerrod Carmichael and Mark Wahlberg getting ready to shoot a scene in what looks to be a makeshift hospital or hostel on the Detroit set. Wahlberg in particular seems to have had more than enough, while Bay and Carmichael are still quite filled with energy - check it out embedded below!

Ever wanted to watch Michael B. Bay, Mark Wahlberg and Jerrod Carmichael film a scene? Now you can. We're live from set in downtown Detroit. ‪#‎transformers‬

video

[dragons]

Or the combat part can be his pure cambat ability and has almost nothing to do with his vehicle mode?


He has a tow truck hook so I assume that will be a weapon of his in robot form and with Onslaught revealed I will not be surprised if the Rusted VW van is Swindle and even Vortex and Blastoff are Cgi air vehicles like Starscream was sometimes.


Brawl is already dead so I wonder if they might tie it in somehow with Onslaught being around for revenge or something.

Just remember revenge of the fallen all constructions don't have names when combined to form devastator in movie if there is small possibility there will be another combiner they don't have to have names they can do what they did in revenge of the fallen gather up and combine no talking and names where dropped except for megatron saying devastator destroy

[Kurona]

I think I'm one of the only ones who enjoyed what they did with Devastator in ROTF. Ignoring the, uh, really bad scrotum joke... I loved that devvy. Definitely not my definitive version of the guy, but the original concept for combiners' personalities is that it's a ton of guys' brains mashed together into a crazy, unstoppable machine of destruction - so in that sense, ROTF Devastator is a pretty good adaption and the design reflects that character.
The scrotum thing and how easily he got taken out still annoyed me tho.

[#Sideways#]

He's a pirate, for sure. Look at the license plate number: YARR343, the words "Never Back Down" writ beneath it. Kinda sounds like a stereotypical pirate captain urging his crew through a storm or something.

"Yarr, never back down, mates!"

[Munkky]

I think I'm one of the only ones who enjoyed what they did with Devastator in ROTF. Ignoring the, uh, really bad scrotum joke... I loved that devvy. Definitely not my definitive version of the guy, but the original concept for combiners' personalities is that it's a ton of guys' brains mashed together into a crazy, unstoppable machine of destruction - so in that sense, ROTF Devastator is a pretty good adaption and the design reflects that character.
The scrotum thing and how easily he got taken out still annoyed me tho.

I liked Bayverse Devastator too, I actually prefer that design to the G1 version. It is a shame that he didn't do more in the movie, I kind of think it would have been better if the Autobots and NEST just fought Devastator in the finale instead of all those Genericons.

As for Onslaught, I don't really mind that he's not a military truck any more, I still like the vehicle mode and I'm hopeful that Bruticus appears in The Last Knight (I'm half-expecting Barricade and the VW camper to be part of Bruticus, I kind of hope that happens just to see how the fandom reacts).

[Stuartmaximus]

So...if Onslaught is not a military truck anymore....makes you kinda wonder what the rest of the Combaticons are gonna be? & could they still be called Combaticons

[Sabrblade]

So...if Onslaught is not a military truck anymore....makes you kinda wonder what the rest of the Combaticons are gonna be? & could they still be called Combaticons

Or... it could just be some Decepticon named Onslaught who isn't part of a team of his own or a combiner.

The first movie had guys named Bonecrusher and Brawl who were their own guys.

[o.supreme]

The first movie had guys named Bonecrusher and Brawl who were their own guys.

Yes but I think many fans *assumed* that since Devastatorahem Brawl was a tank, he could be part of a combaticon group (even though he dies). And Bonecrusher was a...whatever (TF wiki says mine clearing vehicle...) but I think some assumed him as potentially a constructicon...though he dies too.

I am not a hater of these films as some fans are, but I have gotten pretty much used to the idea, that for all the writers that *claim* to have been childhood fans, they don't put a lot of thought to the names they choose for most of the characters, and that they are often not tied to the original Transformers series.

I mean whenever I hear a Transformers name, 99% of the time the image that pops into my mind is the character from the original series, unless it is specified, or was made more immensely popular in another series. For example.. as much as I dislike Armada, the name "Hot Shot" will always evoke the image of the one from Armada, before the one from RiD, although RiD came first.

In fact until AoE, the Films were using names & characters more or less from Original TF (or later added DW & IDW original TF lore) or creating new characters. Having Lockdown appear in AoE basically opens the door that any named character could be from any TF continuity.

Also I just wanted to bring this up again, because I still believe Hasbro is always pushing their own Agenda. Though nothing has been seen or mentioned yet, I still have a strong feeling Windblade is going to be in this film...just because...Hasbro

[JazZeke]

Are they used to it?

From what I hear I think most people are still giving the movies a hard time yet give everything else a pass because "oh it's just a cartoon we don't expect them to be amazing"

People still fail to realize that the movies only have a few hours of screen time compared to the several days worth of cartoon.

This community is going to ruin one of my two only hobbies for me someday.

Do you even read the cartoon discussions? RiD2015 has not gone over well. Likewise with the Unicron Trilogy back in the day.

Do a little homework before you start flinging accusations around.