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[kurthy]

So it's going to be 3 humans and bumblebee instead of 2 humans and bumblebee.

Mind blown!!

[Deadput]

So it's going to be 3 humans and bumblebee instead of 2 humans and bumblebee.

Mind blown!!

Their the main characters why would they not be shown in a 30 second spot you do know there is not much you can do in that little amount of time right?

The big trailers are the ones with more characters.

Now days most Transformers shows and these movies have one main character and then supporting characters so we have main Human characters and main Transformer characters and the rest are supporting hence less time in the first trailers.

In the franchise since the beginning the main Transformer characters have always been Optimus Prime and Megatron and only recently has Bumblebee been added to the list anyone else is a supporting character.

[Alpha Dominus]

Their the main characters why would they not be shown in a 30 second spot you do know there is not much you can do in that little amount of time right?

In the franchise since the beginning the main Transformer characters have always been Optimus Prime and Megatron and only recently has Bumblebee been added to the list anyone else is a supporting character.

Your condescension is noted. I think the main gripe with these movies is that the focus seems to be centered on human relationships that supersede the notion of Transformers as main characters rather than mere set pieces. You'd think that after 4 movies (I haven't seen the next one yet so I can't critique.)we'd be treated to character development for other Transformers besides Optimus Prime.

Hello? Writers? The movies are called "Transformers",right?

[Deadput]

Your condescension is noted. I think the main gripe with these movies is that the focus seems to be centered on human relationships that supersede the notion of Transformers as main characters rather than mere set pieces. You'd think that after 4 movies (I haven't seen the next one yet so I can't critique.)we'd be treated to character development for other Transformers besides Optimus Prime.

Hello? Writers? The movies are called "Transformers",right?

The camera might be on humans a lot but the plot of the movie is always focused on the Transformers the movie is about them but it's from human perspective.

What kind of character development can you even give to the other Transformer characters Optimus is a leader and he has solid development and Bumblebee had some in the first 2 films but after that there was nothing else to do with him but what development does Hound or Sideswipe need are you sure you don't mean screen time?

The humans besides the leads sure don't get character development I mean did Lennox and Epps (best humans in the films) get any development after the first movie?

The Autobots have already been fighting the war for years and they have been on Earth for over 10 years so there is nothing new for them to do really besides defend the planet again.

The perspective is from the humans side because their made by humans for humans and it's cheaper to have real actors on camera then budget eating Cgi robots and that the Transformers are huge compared to humans so it's kind of hard to film in their perspective unless there are no humans or other small characters on set it's the same problem with city bots and combiners compared to normal sized Transformers it's hard to do their perspective problem.


TLDR: There is no way to realisticly fix that problem until years from now when cgi is a lot cheaper to make compared to now.

[Deadput]

Your condescension is noted. I think the main gripe with these movies is that the focus seems to be centered on human relationships that supersede the notion of Transformers as main characters rather than mere set pieces. You'd think that after 4 movies (I haven't seen the next one yet so I can't critique.)we'd be treated to character development for other Transformers besides Optimus Prime.

Hello? Writers? The movies are called "Transformers",right?

Wanted to make a separate reply for this post so you can see it clearly anyways I've been following the filming and news for this movie very closely so that the only things I don't know is the stuff being withheld.

The filming had the AOE Autobots (Bee, Hound, Drift and Crosshairs) on set a lot and Barricade has been seen a lot on set almost as much as Bee so he is a very major Transformer in this film and although less then the other 5 I've mentioned Hot Rod is seen plenty on set with Bee So those 6, Prime and Megatron are major characters.


When it comes to new Autobots besides Hot Rod we have 2 maybe 4 of them one of them is Squeeks who is the kid appeal character of the movie then there is "Cogman" who Bay says is a headmaster who turns into a Aston Martin besides those two there is a red McLaren who has been seen with Hot Rod and Cogman who are presumably their own trio of bots as counterparts to the AOE Bee team and finally there is an old WW2 Tank on set that is seen with Anthony Hopkins but I doubt such character is an important one and there is a chance it's not a Transformer but it has been seen following Anthony's character around during filming.


About Decepticons besides Megatron and Barricade one con's name has been confirmed and his name is Onslaught who was seen quite a few times with Barricade and a rusty Vw van as well as a silver motorcycle who was with them briefly and according to the leaked toys there is a Con named Berserker who looks like Crankcase but is obviously a minor character.

[Stuartmaximus]

Your condescension is noted. I think the main gripe with these movies is that the focus seems to be centered on human relationships that supersede the notion of Transformers as main characters rather than mere set pieces. You'd think that after 4 movies (I haven't seen the next one yet so I can't critique.)we'd be treated to character development for other Transformers besides Optimus Prime.

Hello? Writers? The movies are called "Transformers",right?

Wanted to make a separate reply for this post so you can see it clearly anyways I've been following the filming and news for this movie very closely so that the only things I don't know is the stuff being withheld.

The filming had the AOE Autobots (Bee, Hound, Drift and Crosshairs) on set a lot and Barricade has been seen a lot on set almost as much as Bee so he is a very major Transformer in this film and although less then the other 5 I've mentioned Hot Rod is seen plenty on set with Bee So those 6, Prime and Megatron are major characters.


When it comes to new Autobots besides Hot Rod we have 2 maybe 4 of them one of them is Squeeks who is the kid appeal character of the movie then there is "Cogman" who Bay says is a headmaster who turns into a Aston Martin besides those two there is a red McLaren who has been seen with Hot Rod and Cogman who are presumably their own trio of bots as counterparts to the AOE Bee team and finally there is an old WW2 Tank on set that is seen with Anthony Hopkins but I doubt such character is an important one and there is a chance it's not a Transformer but it has been seen following Anthony's character around during filming.


About Decepticons besides Megatron and Barricade one con's name has been confirmed and his name is Onslaught who was seen quite a few times with Barricade and a rusty Vw van as well as a silver motorcycle who was with them briefly and according to the leaked toys there is a Con named Berserker who looks like Crankcase but is obviously a minor character.

btw the tank is supposedly Warpath....and you missed out the sub....who is also a transformer

[D-Maximal_Primal]

btw the tank is supposedly Warpath....and you missed out the sub....who is also a transformer

the tank cannot be Warpath. It looks more like a human piloted or controlled mecha. It may be nicknamed the "warpath" but that thing is almost definitely not a Cybertronian.

And where do you see the sub being a TF? You are the only one I've heard say it

[Deadput]

the tank cannot be Warpath. It looks more like a human piloted or controlled mecha. It may be nicknamed the "warpath" but that thing is almost definitely not a Cybertronian.

And where do you see the sub being a TF? You are the only one I've heard say it

While there is no confirmation that the tank is Warpath your also incorrect about the tank I'm referring to which is not the walker drone used by the TRF from the trailer but a WW2 tank as in World War 2.

The tank is behind the guy on the right in this image I'm using this image because there aren't any other good pictures of it.




The submarine Transformer was one of the first things we heard about in an early interview there is no name or allegiance stated and it has not been seen being filmed due to it being a submarine.

[Deadput]

btw the tank is supposedly Warpath....and you missed out the sub....who is also a transformer

I already told you there is no confirmation that the tank is Warpath and while the name has been used on set by Bay there is no definites it's going to be a name in the final film since Warpath is a common code name for characters such as the wreckers so that if they were leaked the info would not be to spoilery.

Besides that one interview that stated about the character's existence being a concept it has not been seen on set nor mentioned so obviously the character is not a major one which means I was not going to talk about it in my comment which the subject was talking about confirmed major characters not minor ones hence I did not mention the poor yellow chap from the first trailer or any of the Cybertronian refuges that were talked about by Bay during the early days of filming..

[Stuartmaximus]

And where do you see the sub being a TF? You are the only one I've heard say it

the ONLY one?

[Deadput]

And where do you see the sub being a TF? You are the only one I've heard say it

the ONLY one?

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Don't blame him the Submarine Transformer is something that hardly anyone here knows about since we don't talk about it since we know nothing besides "it exists"


And not everyone pays attention to every comment on this site I mean I sure as hell don't and I'm one of the more "news hunter" people on here when it comes to the movies.

[Stuartmaximus]

btw the tank is supposedly Warpath....and you missed out the sub....who is also a transformer

I already told you there is no confirmation that the tank is Warpath and while the name has been used on set by Bay there is no definites it's going to be a name in the final film since Warpath is a common code name for characters such as the wreckers so that if they were leaked the info would not be to spoilery.

Besides that one interview that stated about the character's existence being a concept it has not been seen on set nor mentioned so obviously the character is not a major one which means I was not going to talk about it in my comment which the subject was talking about confirmed major characters not minor ones hence I did not mention the poor yellow chap from the first trailer or any of the Cybertronian refuges that were talked about by Bay during the early days of filming..

well you are gonna look bloody stupid if it indeed turns out to be Warpath! but you are correct in the fact that we've go nothing concrete...so far...to go on.

oh...btw...one thing i AM sure of though....the tank...is WW1 not WW2.




A news hunter...eh, well...you should probably stick to that instead of shooting peoples opinions & speculations down in flames

[Stuartmaximus]

the Submarine Transformer is something that hardly anyone here knows about since we don't talk about it since we know nothing besides "it exists"

well....it's good to know that at least someone besides myself acknowledges it's existence

[Deadput]

well you are gonna look bloody stupid if it indeed turns out to be Warpath! but you are correct in the fact that we've go nothing concrete...so far...to go on.

oh...btw...one thing i AM sure of though....the tank...is WW1 not WW2.




A news hunter...eh, well...you should probably stick to that instead of shooting peoples opinions & speculations down in flames

Why would I look stupid I only said there is no proof that his name is Warpath not that he is not Warpath, thanks for the correction of what war the Tank is from I get my world wars confused with each other when it comes to what tech was used then.

I can't hunt for news when there is none to hunt but I reload my pages everyday usally once every couple hours during any spare time.

I'm not one to actually shoot down opinions but I'm one to question them about why they have those opinions while giving them my own opinion, the only ones I actually do shoot down are those like "The movies and everyone who enjoys them suck because their not true fans cause I said so!" an exaggerated example but sadly not too far off from what I have seen you know the ones that make you question why your even putting up with your life in the first place.

If my comments seem like "My opinion is the only good one" then sorry about it not my intention I'm just a pretty aggressive guy with anger issues so negative opinions dig at me and I feel forced to reply back although I try to keep it to opinion debates instead of insults.

[Emerje]

Nobody's going to look stupid just because their speculation was wrong and someone else's speculation was right.

Emerje

[Stuartmaximus]

well you are gonna look bloody stupid if it indeed turns out to be Warpath! but you are correct in the fact that we've go nothing concrete...so far...to go on.

oh...btw...one thing i AM sure of though....the tank...is WW1 not WW2.




A news hunter...eh, well...you should probably stick to that instead of shooting peoples opinions & speculations down in flames

Why would I look stupid I only said there is no proof that his name is Warpath not that he is not Warpath, thanks for the correction of what war the Tank is from I get my world wars confused with each other when it comes to what tech was used then.

I can't hunt for news when there is none to hunt but I reload my pages everyday usally once every couple hours during any spare time.

I'm not one to actually shoot down opinions but I'm one to question them about why they have those opinions while giving them my own opinion, the only ones I actually do shoot down are those like "The movies and everyone who enjoys them suck because their not true fans cause I said so!" an exaggerated example but sadly not too far off from what I have seen you know the ones that make you question why your even putting up with your life in the first place.

If my comments seem like "My opinion is the only good one" then sorry about it not my intention I'm just a pretty aggressive guy with anger issues so negative opinions dig at me and I feel forced to reply back although I try to keep it to opinion debates instead of insults.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Not gonna lie, I'm starting to get a bit hyped for this movie.

[william-james88]

So am I!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

So am I!

This letter really makes me feel that this movie might have some good things about it. Could even have; dare I say it; lore. Now, let's just hope the toys after the movie comes out are decent.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I still fail to see how that WWI era tank is supposed to be Warpath. remember AoE? How many vehicles were seen and how many did people assume would be Transformers and then those cars just be used as ordinary cars? Same happened with DotM, and we've had instances where characters were "supposed to appear" but didn't, such as Silverbolt in DotM and Breakaway in RotF. I remain very doubtful of a tank named Warpath in the movie that is Cybertronian.

And submarine Transformer? I saw it mentioned, but there appears to be nothing going for it. That one is also very unconvincing for me.

Overall, I am very stoked for the movie as well!

[Stuartmaximus]

I still fail to see how that WWI era tank is supposed to be Warpath. remember AoE? How many vehicles were seen and how many did people assume would be Transformers and then those cars just be used as ordinary cars? Same happened with DotM, and we've had instances where characters were "supposed to appear" but didn't, such as Silverbolt in DotM and Breakaway in RotF. I remain very doubtful of a tank named Warpath in the movie that is Cybertronian.

And submarine Transformer? I saw it mentioned, but there appears to be nothing going for it. That one is also very unconvincing for me.

Overall, I am very stoked for the movie as well!

To be fair...breakaway did get a toy made

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I still fail to see how that WWI era tank is supposed to be Warpath. remember AoE? How many vehicles were seen and how many did people assume would be Transformers and then those cars just be used as ordinary cars? Same happened with DotM, and we've had instances where characters were "supposed to appear" but didn't, such as Silverbolt in DotM and Breakaway in RotF. I remain very doubtful of a tank named Warpath in the movie that is Cybertronian.

And submarine Transformer? I saw it mentioned, but there appears to be nothing going for it. That one is also very unconvincing for me.

Overall, I am very stoked for the movie as well!

To be fair...breakaway did get a toy made

Yeah, and he was in the video games, but he ended up not being in the movie.

[Stuartmaximus]

I still fail to see how that WWI era tank is supposed to be Warpath. remember AoE? How many vehicles were seen and how many did people assume would be Transformers and then those cars just be used as ordinary cars? Same happened with DotM, and we've had instances where characters were "supposed to appear" but didn't, such as Silverbolt in DotM and Breakaway in RotF. I remain very doubtful of a tank named Warpath in the movie that is Cybertronian.

And submarine Transformer? I saw it mentioned, but there appears to be nothing going for it. That one is also very unconvincing for me.

Overall, I am very stoked for the movie as well!

To be fair...breakaway did get a toy made

Yeah, and he was in the video games, but he ended up not being in the movie.

Like many a bot

[Alpha Dominus]

Your condescension is noted. I think the main gripe with these movies is that the focus seems to be centered on human relationships that supersede the notion of Transformers as main characters rather than mere set pieces. You'd think that after 4 movies (I haven't seen the next one yet so I can't critique.)we'd be treated to character development for other Transformers besides Optimus Prime.

Hello? Writers? The movies are called "Transformers",right?

The camera might be on humans a lot but the plot of the movie is always focused on the Transformers the movie is about them but it's from human perspective.


The perspective is from the humans side because their made by humans for humans and it's cheaper to have real actors on camera then budget eating Cgi robots and that the Transformers are huge compared to humans so it's kind of hard to film in their perspective unless there are no humans or other small characters on set it's the same problem with city bots and combiners compared to normal sized Transformers it's hard to do their perspective problem.


TLDR: There is no way to realisticly fix that problem until years from now when cgi is a lot cheaper to make compared to now.

Even though I may not agree with your perspective pertaining to the creative approach of these films I sincerely thank you for sharing your opinion. I always appreciate hearing the other side of the coin as it allows my brain to have something different to chew on for awhile.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

If there's a Warpath listed in the movie, even if he's not actually in the movie any more than a vehicle appearing briefly or something, I really hope we get a toy of him.