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Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:53 pm

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Deadput wrote:I talked to Josh Nizzi briefly and I know he is going to upload other stuff like for example the prison Decepticons and Josh seems to be going on a "upload one a day" schedule...I did suggest for him to do that in the comments for the WW2 Bumblebee post so it would generate hype.

Hype, sure but that will definitely cause a strain on newsing stuff. If thats what he is dead set on, then I might just wait a week and do a weekly "what new stuff has he posted?" article.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:04 pm

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Deadput wrote:I talked to Josh Nizzi briefly and I know he is going to upload other stuff like for example the prison Decepticons and Josh seems to be going on a "upload one a day" schedule...I did suggest for him to do that in the comments for the WW2 Bumblebee post so it would generate hype.

Hype, sure but that will definitely cause a strain on newsing stuff. If thats what he is dead set on, then I might just wait a week and do a weekly "what new stuff has he posted?" article.

I mean I doubt I made him make that decision but it probably made him confirm his choice was the right one.

But yeah I'll continue to post the concept art here as they come. (Unless someone beats me to the punch because I'm sleeping or doing out doing things)

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:11 am

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DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...


What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.
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Japanese Coloured Transformers: The Last Knight Posters

Postby Va'al » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:57 am

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With Transformers: The Last Knight finally also opening in the last remaining country - Japan - the official Transformers Twitter account for that market has shown some colorised version of the posters that Paramount had used for the promotion of the movie too. You can check out Megatron, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and Hound below!

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:17 am

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ricemazter wrote:What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.
Because business people, Transformers wasn't as big as Star Wars or Marvel and it hasn't been around as long so it did not have the luxury of having as many fans in that span of time.

Back in G1 Mr Donald Glut was a writer on the G1 cartoon who had this to say about the G1 show. (according to the wiki)

Donald Glut wrote:"No one, not even the story editors, looked at these scripts very carefully. I seem to remember the show being on a really tight schedule, and we had to crank these scripts out fast. I wrote some of them in a single day, first draft, and they went almost immediately to the storyboard artists after Bryce or an assistant gave them a rather cursory read. We were not trying to create art, just get them done fast, and get paid... None of the writing on this series, in my opinion, was good or passionate or, sometimes (my own included, like The Autobot Run) even adequate. But we got paid well for writing them fast.... I was never a fan of any of the characters."


About Soundwave's death what are you expecting some sort of reaction from the Decepticons like "Noooo Soundwave!" right on the battlefield?

Movie wise outside of the main couple villains the Decepticons will never be treated in the same fashon as the Autobots heck look at Marvel and how many of their villains...suck and are killed off in the same movie their introduced and if not then the next movie their in.

Outside of Star wars and if you count horror movies villains don't really sell.
ricemazter wrote:The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.

From what I heard years ago specifically for teenage boys at least back around ROTF. (The Marvel films while not as crude are also guilty of these things like have you guys seen the Guardians of the Galaxy film especially the new one with not even just innuendos but also rather blunt straight to the point jokes?)

Not exactly wrong either since Teenagers of my generation were rather...uh "crazy" even in middle school so the films should be up their alley.

And why make a robot action film if it has boring uninteresting action we see in other movies? It's robots man ya gotta go all out or go home!
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:54 am

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Damn I liked these posters in greyscale but I loooove them in bright colour! I need paper versions on my walls, pronto!
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Stealth Claw » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:10 am

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DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...


What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.


Well most kids I know who are transformers fans are fans due to the movies. and of course the movies are for kids, like most parents from what iv gathered and seen don't care what games or movies their kids play/watch. so even if the tf movies don't seem like their safe for kids. their parents will most likely still bring them to see the movies. again from what I gathered and seen and younger tf fans I met love the movies. Also I do notice the bayformer toys are shelf-warmers, but do you know who is not a shelf-warmer and I never seem to be able to find in Wal-Mart is bumblebee...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:19 am

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Stealth Claw wrote:
ricemazter wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...


What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.


Well most kids I know who are transformers fans are fans due to the movies. and of course the movies are for kids, like most parents from what iv gathered and seen don't care what games or movies their kids play/watch. so even if the tf movies don't seem like their safe for kids. their parents will most likely still bring them to see the movies. again from what I gathered and seen and younger tf fans I met love the movies. Also I do notice the bayformer toys are shelf-warmers, but do you know who is not a shelf-warmer and I never seem to be able to find in Wal-Mart is bumblebee...


All Transformers lines have their heavy shelfwarmers not just movie. As stated elsewhere there's TONS of Titans Returns stuff clogging up shelves including those at my nearest toy stores. So many Wave 3 deluxe TR figures (mostly Hot Rod, Twinferno and Triggerhappy), still a lot of Blurr and Scourge from earlier waves and lots of Broadsides, Megatrons and Optimus Primes and small Legends stuff lke Bumblebee, Wheelie (so many Wheelies) and Stripes. A lot of RID stuff such as Deployers on shelves too. And until recently a crapload of Combiner Wars figures were shelfwarming like crazy too (particularly the Deluxes like Wheeljack, Prowl and Smokescreen and Voyagers such as Cyclonus, Scattershot and Onslaught and a lot of Legends class Wreck Gars and Skywarps)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Stealth Claw » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:24 am

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Stealth Claw wrote:
ricemazter wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:I like hearing good news about Transformers, but I make no secret of the fact that I don't think much of the 'Bayverse' films. They're too formulaic for my taste, too predictable. Bay has a number of gimmicks that he's known for in his movies, and for Transformers in particular he seems to be going through a playbook step by step. And in the most recent movie, they put more emphasis on camera movement and rotation than on good writing. Just being in an IMAX theater doesn't mean people will like it...


What always got me about these films is that nobody involved in the production seemed to have an appreciation for or even like the source material. Bay's artistic merits are debatable, but it's always been apparent to me that he doesn't care about the Transformers part of the Transformers. More often than not the robots are disposable set pieces in these movies. For example, in any other transformers media, it would be a big deal for Soundwave or any other major Decepticon to die. In Dorm, though, whatever.

The other thing that always bothered me was just who are these movies made for? It isn't kids, certainly. There's too much sexual content, crass humor, and over the top violence. Tonally they seemed to be teen and young adult males who,correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the market that will be buying these toys in the numbers to generate a real profit, especially the simple versions.


Are kids really buying movie toys? Is there anyway to tell? They seem to be constantly in stock at my local stores, while generations are sold out.


Well most kids I know who are transformers fans are fans due to the movies. and of course the movies are for kids, like most parents from what iv gathered and seen don't care what games or movies their kids play/watch. so even if the tf movies don't seem like their safe for kids. their parents will most likely still bring them to see the movies. again from what I gathered and seen and younger tf fans I met love the movies. Also I do notice the bayformer toys are shelf-warmers, but do you know who is not a shelf-warmer and I never seem to be able to find in Wal-Mart is bumblebee...


All Transformers lines have their heavy shelfwarmers not just movie. As stated elsewhere there's TONS of Titans Returns stuff clogging up shelves including those at my nearest toy stores. So many Wave 3 deluxe TR figures (mostly Hot Rod, Twinferno and Triggerhappy), still a lot of Blurr and Scourge from earlier waves and lots of Broadsides, Megatrons and Optimus Primes and small Legends stuff lke Bumblebee, Wheelie (so many Wheelies) and Stripes. A lot of RID stuff such as Deployers on shelves too. And until recently a crapload of Combiner Wars figures were shelfwarming like crazy too (particularly the Deluxes like Wheeljack, Prowl and Smokescreen and Voyagers such as Cyclonus, Scattershot and Onslaught and a lot of Legends class Wreck Gars and Skywarps)


I wish we had that amount of shelf-warming here in Canada, onslaught never showed up in the wal-marts near me. entire waves didn't even show up in our wal-marts. CW Devy didn't even show in Wal-Mart, so sad :-( (ps. im looking for a cw devy haha)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Optimum Supreme » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:56 am

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Huahua? And they want Paramount to gibe monie? You can't make this stuff up! :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Optimum Supreme » Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:00 am

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Stealth Claw wrote: CW Devy didn't even show in Wal-Mart, so sad :-( (ps. im looking for a cw devy haha)


CW Devy didn't show up anywhere here. I only have one because I ordered it from BBTS.

The only place any CW set showed up was at clearance at TJMaxx/Marshalls, and even then the only one I ever saw was Menasor.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Friend of Da Panda Symbol » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:06 pm

Not going to see TF'17 until it comes out on tv on FX or Spike :D or I can borrow DVD from the library. Seen too many reviewers on Youtube having barely anything good to say about it. I'm not being influence by reviewers; paid my cinema money. :SICK: :-x Except for TF'07, regretted paying every penny used to watch them.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby noctorro » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:28 am

Nice posters.

Offtopic:

To bad only Bumblebee had some time in the movie. Barely Megatron, practically no Hound and no Optimus.

Anybody else feel like that's false advertising?

They should've had posters of Mark, Sir Hopkins, T*ts and *ss lady, Cogman and Bumblebee only. Because those are the characters you're going to see in the movie.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight and other Paramount Films have Incurred "Huge Losses" for Partner Huah

Postby noctorro » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:33 am

william-james88 wrote:An exclusive article from Variety tells that Paramount's film financing partner Huahua, a media company based in China, is angry at "losing tens of millions of dollars on a $1 billion slate-financing deal with Paramount Pictures".


Yes, eat that movie making company. Hope those guys are angry, they should be angry at themselves. For making such a terrible movie and thinking everyone's going to eat it 3 times in cinemas and go crazy about it.

I hope they learn, kick Bay of the team, start anew years later.

And quit with the, Transformers have been around longer than you think, conveluted nonsense. Just quit it.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight and other Paramount Films have Incurred "Huge Losses" for Partner Huah

Postby Deadput » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:58 am

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noctorro wrote:I hope they learn, kick Bay of the team, start anew years later.

Yup stat anew a couple years later and watch this exact situation happen again!

I don't think there is a magic director who will redeem the movies...partially because no one else really wants to touch this franchise now with the reputation it has and also because Hasbro can make some dumb decisions sometimes when it tries to be more then a toy company.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:49 am

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:24 pm

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A new knight rises! (Via Furio once again)

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:29 pm

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:46 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Looks to be Dragonicus.

Well their all just names made up for the toyline anyways.

All the designs are reused at least once or twice for other Knights...even the red knight is just an edited one with unique shoulders and colors.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:33 pm

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The Pringles man uploaded another piece...this time it's Megatron looking at the "ship" that Bee and Prime fight on.

Presumbly this happens Right before he and Nitro Zeus attack Optimus and steal the staff...
which probably means that they were watching the battle which is how they knew Optimus was freed from evil so soon.


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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:34 pm

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Wesley Burt who uploaded the art for Canopy when he was a train and the uh nightmarish Daytrader face has uploaded some more art this time it's an early concept for "Bulldog" the old tank guard from Burton's castle that used to be a duo!

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https://twitter.com/wesburt/status/894745908234956804
https://twitter.com/wesburt/status/894746475611136000
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXhCJjjnQ2N/?taken-by=wes_burt





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More Concepts for Transformers: The Last Knight Dragonicus, Bulldog, Mega by Tedeschi, Pringle, Burt

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:05 am

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Now that Spain and Japan - the last two countries - have also seen the release of Transformers: The Last Knight, even more concept art is making its way to social media from the creators of the concepts for the movie (used or unused, of course). This small round-up collects Furio Tedeschi, Thomas Pringle, and Wes Burt, as they show off some more scenery such as Merlin's Tomb, concepts for Bulldog and the inspiration, and one of the knights who is totally not Dragonicus from leader Dragonstorm. Check it all out below!

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:24 am

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I was just heading to sleep but I'm pleasantly surprised to see this roundup post thanks for putting it together Va'al!

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Regardless of we think of the movies or their looks I don't think we can deny the hard work, effort and creativity that goes into making these movie's.
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Re: More Concepts for Transformers: The Last Knight Dragonicus, Bulldog, Mega by Tedeschi, Pringle, Burt

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