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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Microraptor » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:44 pm

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Doesn't look much like an Aston...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:13 pm

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Microraptor wrote:Doesn't look much like an Aston...

Either a one step thing or they weren't able to acquire a licence to model toys to an accurate Aston Martin the symbol is on the side of the car though.

Probably more of a rotf Sideways situation then a Dino/Mirage one.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:23 pm

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Deadput wrote:
Microraptor wrote:Doesn't look much like an Aston...

Either a one step thing or they weren't able to acquire a licence to model toys to an accurate Aston Martin the symbol is on the side of the car though.

Probably more of a rotf Sideways situation then a Dino/Mirage one.


The fact it seems to have the Aston Martin symbol makes it a licensed model. One-Steps always have some design compromises in order to accommodate the gimmick.

Speaking of models, is there a list somewhere of all the models used?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:47 pm

Which Faction is Cogman - and do we even know why he's called that ?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Microraptor » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:53 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
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Microraptor wrote:Doesn't look much like an Aston...

Either a one step thing or they weren't able to acquire a licence to model toys to an accurate Aston Martin the symbol is on the side of the car though.

Probably more of a rotf Sideways situation then a Dino/Mirage one.


The fact it seems to have the Aston Martin symbol makes it a licensed model. One-Steps always have some design compromises in order to accommodate the gimmick.

Speaking of models, is there a list somewhere of all the models used?


It's not a compromise thing, it just doesn't look like an Aston. The details are all off.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:57 pm

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RAR wrote:Which Faction is Cogman - and do we even know why he's called that ?


Cogman is an Autobot Headmaster and it's just character name made up for the movies which is fine new characters keep thing fresh.

This is his headmaster's robot form notice the gears and cogs in his details.

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Here is his bio as described by Tfwiki

Cogman is a Headmaster, diminutive in size for a Transformer. As the faithful manservant of Sir Edmund Burton, he's very polite and proper, but suffers from... "anger issues."
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:05 pm

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So then Cogman is the Cybertronian version of Dutch? :-?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:17 pm

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Cobotron wrote:So then Cogman is the Cybertronian version of Dutch? :-?


Honestly after Rogue one and the fact that Alan Tudyk was already in DOTM I'm getting that feeling in my guy that Alan will be voicing Cogman.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:06 pm

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Deadput wrote:
Cobotron wrote:So then Cogman is the Cybertronian version of Dutch? :-?


Honestly after Rogue one and the fact that Alan Tudyk was already in DOTM I'm getting that feeling in my guy that Alan will be voicing Cogman.



I thought Cogman was a silly name when I first saw it but it's grown on me especially from what we know about the character so far.

Have to admit I love those cog details on him too. A lil too intricate to work on the toy though? :P
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:12 pm

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Cogman isn't an entirely uncommon surname in England which puts the character in rare company with Shrapnel (the shards of exploded metal and debris the Insecticon is named for comes from British Lieutenant General Henry Shrapnel). The name cogman originally comes from the seller of coarse cloth or cogware. Incidentally, a cog is the tooth of a gear, not the gear itself.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:24 pm

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Emerje wrote:Cogman isn't an entirely uncommon surname in England which puts the character in rare company with Shrapnel (the shards of exploded metal and debris the Insecticon is named for comes from British Lieutenant General Henry Shrapnel). The name cogman originally comes from the seller of coarse cloth or cogware. Incidentally, a cog is the tooth of a gear, not the gear itself.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:55 am

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Sabrblade wrote:There are a few more TF names out there that are also human names, be they first names or last names.


Dino is a good example I used to dislike the name but when I think of how he was supposed to be named Mirage I think it fits since Dino sounds a bit exotic which fits with G1 Mirage being high class.

And it sounds cool to say dee-no just like mi-raaagee

My head canon (which is not a fact OK) in the movieverse transformers with more "human" names were of the higher class and rich citizens and most of them were killed during the war because of stereotypical most rich people are incompetent tropes.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:28 am

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Emerje wrote:Cogman isn't an entirely uncommon surname in England which puts the character in rare company with Shrapnel (the shards of exploded metal and debris the Insecticon is named for comes from British Lieutenant General Henry Shrapnel). The name cogman originally comes from the seller of coarse cloth or cogware. Incidentally, a cog is the tooth of a gear, not the gear itself.

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There are a few more TF names out there that are also human names, be they first names or last names.

I know, I didn't say they were the only two, just that it's rare. I only used Shrapnel as a popular example.

Hyper Zed Blade wrote:I got a weird feeling Cogman will have some kind of connection to Anthony Hopkins ' character. :-?

Not even joking, he's his robot butler.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:20 am

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This isn't entirely related to the toys, but are those teeth on Cogman's cheeks? It kinda looks like he has a huge mouth and the scuba mouth thing is covering the front of it.
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Postby Bronzewolf » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:11 am

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Uhmm, okay, that's not an Aston in any way shape or form, and it seems kind of strange to just plaster the logo on the side of a car that looks nothing like any car they make. Especially when they could.have put it on the front of the car, like actual Aston Martins. Has anything like this happened before? Like, a one step/legion class Bumblebee that doesn't look like a camaro and the just put the Chevy logo in some random place? Hmm :-?


EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Image

This isn't entirely related to the toys, but are those teeth on Cogman's cheeks? It kinda looks like he has a huge mouth and the scuba mouth thing is covering the front of it.


Jesus Christ, that's terrifying. I just imagine some horror movie where he scuttles on all fours and has this gigantic mouth with thousands of teeth and a super-long pointed tongue. Bleh.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:06 am

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Bronzewolf wrote:Uhmm, okay, that's not an Aston in any way shape or form, and it seems kind of strange to just plaster the logo on the side of a car that looks nothing like any car they make. Especially when they could.have put it on the front of the car, like actual Aston Martins. Has anything like this happened before? Like, a one step/legion class Bumblebee that doesn't look like a camaro and the just put the Chevy logo in some random place? Hmm :-?


EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Image

This isn't entirely related to the toys, but are those teeth on Cogman's cheeks? It kinda looks like he has a huge mouth and the scuba mouth thing is covering the front of it.


Jesus Christ, that's terrifying. I just imagine some horror movie where he scuttles on all fours and has this gigantic mouth with thousands of teeth and a super-long pointed tongue. Bleh.


Doesn't Grimlock from IDW have a similar thing going on? Or Mileena from those Mortal Kombat games since they gave her lips?
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Postby william-james88 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:12 am

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Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:21 am

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Don't suppose as a Headmaster his toy will have any compatiblity with Titans Return, hm?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:13 pm

Seems like an ideal promo toy to make either a G1 Fort Max compatible or Titans Return compatible mini-figure.

If he's a Headmasters (head) then

Why the car mode (does he have a tector body or the ability to capture earth tech to make it into a body for him.

Or does he have a partner character he turns into the head of.

He does solve one issue Bay has been reluctant to deal with which is talking in vehicle mode (though Mudflap and Skids did it very briefly). as when in vehicle mode he'd be sitting in the vehicle and if a human was with him he'd be able to conduct a normal conversation.

So just an observation anyway.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:32 pm

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RAR wrote:Or does he have a partner character he turns into the head of.

Or maybe he just rips off the heads of others and takes over their bodies ...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:44 pm

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RAR wrote:Or does he have a partner character he turns into the head of.

Or maybe he just rips off the heads of others and takes over their bodies ...

That's what Bay did say.

Although I'm sure the Aston Martin is his original body since it hasn't been seen around Decepticons during filming although if it was a con it might not transform until being taken over.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:47 pm

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RAR wrote:Or does he have a partner character he turns into the head of.

Or maybe he just rips off the heads of others and takes over their bodies ...


Like Headmaster from Animated? Or the aliens from Dead Space... :shock:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:59 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Burn wrote:
RAR wrote:Or does he have a partner character he turns into the head of.

Or maybe he just rips off the heads of others and takes over their bodies ...


Like Headmaster from Animated? Or the aliens from Dead Space... :shock:


The Dead space one would be cooler but a loud minority of fans would probably be like "It's too violent an Autobot would never do that" while praising characters like G1 Dinobots and Wreckers for doing the same thing.

It fits what we have heard from Cogman's character anyways.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Toys Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:00 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote:Jesus Christ, that's terrifying. I just imagine some horror movie where he scuttles on all fours and has this gigantic mouth with thousands of teeth and a super-long pointed tongue. Bleh.

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Postby Deadput » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:25 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote:Jesus Christ, that's terrifying. I just imagine some horror movie where he scuttles on all fours and has this gigantic mouth with thousands of teeth and a super-long pointed tongue. Bleh.

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