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william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Lunatic Prime wrote:Why is that lame? I think it's clever especially they give him a shield blaster that way instead of kibble.

I didnt say lame, I said lazy. Because its partsforming for the alt mode.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

I have to give them credit. It's one of the more creative retools I've seen.

wait til you see the chromedome retooled from the deadend mold, thats creative retooling.

william-james88 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Why is that lame? I think it's clever especially they give him a shield blaster that way instead of kibble.

I didnt say lame, I said lazy. Because its partsforming for the alt mode.

It's not partsforming to me when something becomes a weapon or something like that.
Is Generations Thrilling 30 Trailcutter's shield blaster also partsforming to you?

Well, at least this version of Brainstorm has a better looking vehicle than the Gen version.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

Lunatic Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Why is that lame? I think it's clever especially they give him a shield blaster that way instead of kibble.

I didnt say lame, I said lazy. Because its partsforming for the alt mode.

It's not partsforming to me when something becomes a weapon or something like that.
Is Generations Thrilling 30 Trailcutter's shield blaster also partsforming to you?

I dont have the figure and dont know of that eature so I cant comment on that, sorry.

I guess this will depend on how good it looks as a weapon.

Matrix_Holder wrote:wait til you see the chromedome retooled from the deadend mold, thats creative retooling.

Do you have pics to share?

As for retools, I am currently compiling a list of the best retools and none of CW figures on there. Nothing comes close to what Takara did with Battle Grimlock or BWN Killer Punch

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

overclocking shares nothig with titan returns blurr mold except that it's blurr. sxs ripped of hasbro to make their figure but hasbro has nothing incommon with that design except that its based on G1 blurr just like sxs did. animated blurr had a shield weapon and so did G1 blurr.

Stuartmaximus wrote:well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

So Hasbro shouldn't make any more toys of characters that have been used by 3PCs?

Matrix_Holder wrote:wait til you see the chromedome retooled from the deadend mold, thats creative retooling.

When did this become a thing? I am intrigued.

Stuartmaximus wrote:
well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

I really think you are overthinking this. A 3rd party figure and a hasbro product are shooting for the same exact thing. Of course they will be similar. But that in no way means that the molds are relatable. They both shoot for the cybertronian G1 cartoon Blurr, and they have to look similar since they are going at the same thing. And just cause they look alike means nothing. The hasbro version will have to be much easier to transform as that is their MO and the 3rd party one a more difficult one. Plus the hasbro one is a headmaster, whereas the other is a regular blurr.

This has nothing to do with a 3rd party fig. This is a new mold then reused as Brainstorm to accomplish the original look and aesthetic.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Because they're ALL based on G1 Blurr.

You don't get to accuse Hasbro of copying third-party toys when the third-party toys copied Hasbro in the first place.

AT LAST! A NON-BISECTED PICTURE!

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

So Hasbro shouldn't make any more toys of characters that have been used by 3PCs?

no! i never said that! just surprised that's all! but i guess that's now the route that they're going with

& as i said before...i now wonder what other 3p figures they'll now use as a baseline mold for the Titans Return line?

SillySpringer wrote:Well, at least this version of Brainstorm has a better looking vehicle than the Gen version.

Not even close. This one is way more squat.

Here is the G1 toy and his alt mode in the show





And you are saying that this is the best version of that?



Instead of this?



No way, the back of the TR version looks nothing like Brainstorm. He has a single fin instead of the appropriate tail fins on the side? This guy is fun to have your headmasters be the same size but that's it. It's clearly a retool and nothing more.

chromedome has been talked about and seen by a number of people but there have been no images online leaked or othewise at all, really hoping hes shown tomorrow night at nytf.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

Much as I hate to be cynical, but even so the chances of it seeing mass retail in the UK are about 1 percent. and about 10 percent of it being released through Toys R Us. Bearing in mind they completely skipped the Stunticons from combiner wars.. And almost all of the Thrilling 30 toys were exclusive to them.

This whole conversation about the new TR Blurr/Brainstorm mold resembling a 3rd party figure just reinforces how the label of "3rd party toys" is more of a misnomer while a more straightforward label for those not-Transformers toys would be "IP theft toys".

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

So Hasbro shouldn't make any more toys of characters that have been used by 3PCs?

no! i never said that! just surprised that's all! but i guess that's now the route that they're going with

& as i said before...i now wonder what other 3p figures they'll now use as a baseline mold for the Titans Return line?

Why do you think they look what 3PCs do and then copy their stuff? It's just a coincidence.
Or do you just like to argue and accuse ?

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Well, at least this version of Brainstorm has a better looking vehicle than the Gen version.

Not even close. This one is way more squat.

Here is the G1 toy and his alt mode in the show





And you are saying that this is the best version of that?



Instead of this?



No way, the back of the TR version looks nothing like Brainstorm. He has a dingle fin instead of the appropriate tail fins on the side? This guy is fun to have your headmasters be the same size but that's it. It's clearly a retool and nothing more.

The new TR version definitely looks more similar to the G1 cartoon model.

Stu, you are really, really, really wrong about this, so please stop going on about it. Hasbro stole nothing from a 3rd party (or as I refer to them in my head, nice looking knock offs). They won't be using any ko stuff in stores or as anything.

Also in the UK we'll get the first wave of titan returns but it'll be hit and miss after that.

i love 3rd party toys but yeah, 99% of them are ip theft except for original figures like steelcore and some others.

the generations version had so much effort dedicated to the robot mode and they killed it. the vehicle mode did look a bit clunky with all that stuff in the back. But this is a different styled Brainstorm. The vehicle mode does look off even if it is more streamline. the Generations version is my true version, but I will still have him. And yes that one tailfin when the shoulders in bot mode appear to have the fins to fold up is annoying

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Plus the hasbro one is a headmaster, whereas the other is a regular blurr.

oh now now now now now! your just arguing semantics! coz you know dam well they're using characters in this line that weren't originally Headmasters!(Optimus Prime, Blaster & Soundwave to name but a few).

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:And just cause they look alike means nothing.

look alike! LOOK ALIKE! THEY'RE FROM THE SAME BLOODY MOLD PAL!(albeit with a bit of a retool) or are you just willing to refuse to accept it because it's ME that your talking to? coz had it been someone else that had made a similar comment....then you might've said something along the lines of "y'know...you could be right about that"(or certainly a more positive response) & then proceed to proverbially pat them on the back.