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Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.

New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!!

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.

New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!!

Or just a new head remold of the Lione vehicle

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.

New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!!

So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro.

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.

New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!!

So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro.

It's more or less due to how Japanese phonetics work if I remember correctly. A more accurate spelling might be 'Trizer'.

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.

New mold?

Toraizer's the one that turned into a cat. Meaning CAT TITAN MASTER VEHICLE!!!!!!!!

So a repaint of Saw Back? I was going with Tor = Toro.

Nope. Toraizer's name comes from "Tora", the Japanese word for Tiger. That's why his name is transliterated the way it is, to leave that part visible. It was done as Trizer for the inspired-by toy Alpha Trizer, however

The bull would be an Autobot Master Warrior that was drawn up but not produced (the other unproduced designs would be a dugong, a cobra, and a rhino - this rhino would be where Titan Master Ramhorn's head-mode face comes from)

Toraizer, on the other hand, is one of the six who were actually made. With him we have the three animal Master Warriors, plus Ramhorn as an unproduced one. The three humanoid ones (Loafer, Rodney, and Kirk) appear to be out of luck, however.

Yeah, I am really hoping we see the rumored Arcee Titan Master confirmed.

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.

New mold?

The wiki for your reading: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toraizer

and attached is a shot of some of the unproduced designs

Edit: Link to Seibertron's news and imagary - https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ned/37415/

Nani? Arcee Titan Master? Hopefully she'll be more bulky just like the upcoming Windblade. And a better face!

Really hoped they'd make some non-G1 characters into Titans Return. Remold Hardhead into Demolisher. Or any of the Unicron Trilogy.

These Titans Return figures are so well put together, really. HasTak is making so much awesome stuff.

Optimus primal could be a US release of the Optimal Optimus Apeface repaint that came with Convoybat.

Toraizer will probably be a repaint/retool of Sawbuck/Lione like my Digibash

http://leokearon.deviantart.com/art/Dig ... -680516510

Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

What's wrong with G2 Menasor?

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

What's wrong with G2 Menasor?

Not necessarily that he looks bad... but it ended up being based on a fan's digibash on Deviantart rather than the actual original G2 Menasor toy. Lol.

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

What's wrong with G2 Menasor?

Not necessarily that he looks bad... but it ended up being based on a fan's digibash on Deviantart rather than the actual original G2 Menasor toy. Lol.

Is it though? Every single picture I've seen of the original G2 stunticons look like what we got in combiner wars.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

Yeah, thats what I am thinking too.

And Cobo, Toraiser is the third Japan only headmaster that turned into an animal and then into a head (with no robot mode).



So now we will have the whole set in TR

Aha! I see, so he was an actual produced character. Cool! Tor, Toro, lead me to the Buffalo unproduced one in my mind.

I read this first on my phone, but had to run to my PC to get a better look at the pic. I had to make sure that Shuffler wasn't TR Shuffler. Man he looks like the original!

Also, Will, you typed my real name!

ThunderThruster wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

You can keep the vital organ, 'cause you know your right. But, who is Toraizer? I can't find that pic of the conceptual drawing of the Tak-only Head Masters Will newsed a while back, but I seem to remember a bull.

New mold?

The wiki for your reading: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toraizer

and attached is a shot of some of the unproduced designs

Edit: Link to Seibertron's news and imagary - https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ned/37415/

Should be interesting repaint of what figure looks like didn't like ape face figure
But color for apeface figure maybe something that may be impressive possibly new headmaster for this figure

Optimus Primal? Yeah, I can see that more than an all-new Optimus Prime Titan Master with Vehicle. I do find it odd that Ramhorn was released ahead of the others if we're going by their product codes. Goof up maybe?

You know, I hope Primal comes with a repaint of Diac.
I just want a little battalion of those Diaclone dudes.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'd bet my left kidney that Optimus Primal is a re-use of Apeface.

Yeah, thats what I am thinking too.

And Cobo, Toraiser is the third Japan only headmaster that turned into an animal and then into a head (with no robot mode).



So now we will have the whole set in TR

Aha! I see, so he was an actual produced character. Cool! Tor, Toro, lead me to the Buffalo unproduced one in my mind.

I read this first on my phone, but had to run to my PC to get a better look at the pic. I had to make sure that Shuffler wasn't TR Shuffler. Man he looks like the original!

Also, Will, you typed my real name!

I wonder why there's no love for Kirk, Rodney and Loafer, as well?

I'd love to see a 6 pack of the Headmaster Warriors done in all white, like the variants the original one had.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Kurona wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Quick, hide that before some HasTak idjit references it like what happened with CW G2 Menasor.

What's wrong with G2 Menasor?

Not necessarily that he looks bad... but it ended up being based on a fan's digibash on Deviantart rather than the actual original G2 Menasor toy. Lol.

Is it though? Every single picture I've seen of the original G2 stunticons look like what we got in combiner wars.

Yes, it is.
Motormaster has the same layout of blue and purple parts as in the digibash, most of the same red paint apps.. Basically the only differences are that his inner helmet is purple and his aero fairing is purple instead of red. (The referencing hurt him and Menasor, would have been better for him to have a blue and purple layout matching the gray and black layout of the regular version)
Drag Strip and Dead End's paint apps are based on the digibash instead of their actual G2 stickers
Breakdown is silver where he ought to be gold and purple where he ought to be pink. This is the most egregious since A. it's the complete wrong plastic colors which is something that can't just be Reprolabeled away, and B. G2 BREAKDOWN IS NOT ONLY THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY GOT A RELEASE (as a con exlcusive but still), HE THEN GOT AN HOMAGE FIGURE RETOOLED FROM UNIVERSE SIDESWIPE THAT WAS THE CORRECT COLORS! But no, the deco artist is a lazy idiot and looks at somebody's fanart instead of doing their homework properly...

Cobotron wrote:You know, I hope Primal comes with a repaint of Diac.
I just want a little battalion of those Diaclone dudes.

You and me both.

btw i've ordered Twintwist from Kapow(Yes! they have the figure in)
https://www.kapowtoys.co.uk/transformer ... twist.html
already i've noticed vid reviews of him starting to appear

Fellow board member stuartmaximus tells us that another Titans Return Wave 5 review has been uploaded -- this time, the Deluxe Twin Twist from youtuber xcorpeo! Retooled from his Wrecker brother-in-arms Top Spin from Wave 4, Twin Twist nonetheless features his own unique vehicle mode and lovely silhouette. Check out the review below and tell us what you think in the forums!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do we have any updates on the Clone(s) box set(s)? From what I've been told is that Robot Kingdom made a mistake and the ONLY box set confirmed with any evidence is the Walgreens one.

As far as I have heard, you are correct.