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Of course, classics are an inch and a half taller and can't combine with the rest of the team...

Plus anyone who missed them 15 years ago would love to get a new one on the shelf.

Cobotron wrote:

You know what makes that worse...my son has that toy. I thought it was just a big blob of plastic I wasted 10 bucks on (or whatever it cost at the time). But of course that toy has no transformation, probably still a lot of safety issues involved to get that toy to pass all safety standards etc...

Thanks for putting me into the poor house Primus!

Kurona wrote:On a more positive note, I do like the idea of making the folded up beast legs his feet instead of leaving them off to the side - that plagued the G1 Predacons and a ton of Beast Wars figures so much and still plagues poor Skullsmasher. So while I'm still not entirely sure if I like how it turns out, I'm all for any effort to make them not just hang off the sides.

Do you guys think there's any molding similarities between this toy and Sinnertwin?




I'm still riding this Doublecross and Sinnertwin sharing engineering in the same way Chromedome and Dead End do theory.

And Alpha Trion as a remolded Razorclaw. And Weirdwolf as Rampage, Tantrum or Headstrong (or all 3). Mindwipe remolded as Cutthroat (and maybe the same engineering for Swoop). The animal combiners are on their way folks!

I just had a thought; Doublecross was always written as having a split personality, so what's going to happen when a Titan Master gets thrown into the mix?

bluecatcinema wrote:I just had a thought; Doublecross was always written as having a split personality, so what's going to happen when a Titan Master gets thrown into the mix?

That's crazy! I loved how in Headmasters the 2 heads argued all the time. Maybe with adding the Titan Master the head argues with each "hand".

Seibertron wrote:The animal combiners are on their way folks!

Considering the tease that Onyx Prime is on the horizon in the new "Optimus Prime" titled IDW comic...we can only hope. I just hope if they do come out, they use the same system as CW, and are compatible.

o.supreme wrote:

Seibertron wrote:The animal combiners are on their way folks!

Considering the tease that Onyx Prime is on the horizon in the new "Optimus Prime" titled IDW comic...we can only hope. I just hope if they do come out, they use the same system as CW, and are compatible.

They'll definitely be the same system. They finally got it right after so many attempts there's no way they'll go back to the drawing board

Wave 1 2017 is really looking to be my favorite for Deluxes. I love Hot Rod and Doublecross looks amazing, plus Triggerhappy. All 3 are really awesome options that I really want, plus that Sixshot!

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

Mr O wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

Unfortunately, if the rumors are true, that's as likely to happen as a toy of Octus being released by Has Tak.

Mr O wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

If not, I can totally imagine a 3rd party company making bodies for all the Titan-Masters.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Mr O wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

Unfortunately, if the rumors are true, that's as likely to happen as a toy of Octus being released by Has Tak.

Who even cares about Octus? I think it's more likely we'll get an...

OCTOPUS PRIME!

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Mr O wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

Unfortunately, if the rumors are true, that's as likely to happen as a toy of Octus being released by Has Tak.

To my knowledge There's no rumor saying that these guys won't get bodies. It's just that's all they're getting right now.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Mr O wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

Unfortunately, if the rumors are true, that's as likely to happen as a toy of Octus being released by Has Tak.

To my knowledge There's no rumor saying that these guys won't get bodies. It's just that's all they're getting right now.

I swore I heard a rumor that they would be Titanmasters.

steals_your_goats wrote:They'll definitely be the same system. They finally got it right after so many attempts there's no way they'll go back to the drawing board

Oh I agree, CW was by far the best combining system they've developed since the Original Transformers Scramble Combiners(well the Energon ones were pretty good but...) you never know with Hasbro. Instead of jumping at the chance to be all-inclusive, sometimes they change things up, just for the sake of change.

Case in Point-Devastator-Sure I get the idea that having a BIG toy brings an added level of impressiveness, but now Devastator is out of scale with all the other combiners. Six Deluxes would have been way better. And I bet...with a little added engineering, they could have made the limbs match all the other combiner limbs and made the two body parts (Hook and Long Haul), be the only stand-outs, they could have been sold as a 2-pack, (along with other Voyager size toys) and all the others could have been sold on the same level as the other Deluxes. Then you would at least have had a foundation for all other 6 team combiners.

But all that aside, I do hope this comes true, if it does then 2015-2018 could very well be the best years Transformers toys have had in a long time. Although I am probably not going to purchase many Titans Return toys, I Give huge props to Hasbro, they have a lot of amazing toys coming down the line so far.

SillySpringer wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Mr O wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

Unfortunately, if the rumors are true, that's as likely to happen as a toy of Octus being released by Has Tak.

Who even cares about Octus? I think it's more likely we'll get an...

OCTOPUS PRIME!

Octopus Prime vs Talking Dolphin: The Movie.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

Mr O wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can retool Skullsmasher or Wolfwire into Grotusque

They could easily get Squeezeplay and Repugnus from the same basic idea, maybe they will all get bodies.

Unfortunately, if the rumors are true, that's as likely to happen as a toy of Octus being released by Has Tak.

Who even cares about Octus? I think it's more likely we'll get an...

OCTOPUS PRIME!

Octopus Prime vs Talking Dolphin: The Movie.

Rated M for "too many memes".

Seibertron wrote:

Kurona wrote:On a more positive note, I do like the idea of making the folded up beast legs his feet instead of leaving them off to the side - that plagued the G1 Predacons and a ton of Beast Wars figures so much and still plagues poor Skullsmasher. So while I'm still not entirely sure if I like how it turns out, I'm all for any effort to make them not just hang off the sides.

Do you guys think there's any molding similarities between this toy and Sinnertwin?




I'm still riding this Doublecross and Sinnertwin sharing engineering in the same way Chromedome and Dead End do theory.

And Alpha Trion as a remolded Razorclaw. And Weirdwolf as Rampage, Tantrum or Headstrong (or all 3). Mindwipe remolded as Cutthroat (and maybe the same engineering for Swoop). The animal combiners are on their way folks!

I'm... not sure I'd go that far. I'm mostly on the Sinnertwin/Doublecross thing because the two-headed design is so very specific, they'd both be deluxes; and according to rumours Doublecross strangely seems to be getting a toy while his group-mates aren't.
The Alpha Trion mode has nothing in common with Razorclaw other than he can turn into a lion, and Mindwipe... just has wings. For an entirely new line I'm sure we'll mostly get new molds; but sometimes they cross things over - as seen with Dead End = Chromedome.



Also Devastator is not a good example for them changing the system. He was filling in the metroplex-sized titan class gap, he was unique in that unlike the Scramble City guys he needs six members to be accurate... and he's friggin' Devastator. Of course they're gonna make him stand out. In any case there's no reason for Abominus, Predaking and possibly Piranacon to deviate.

I'd actually LOVE it if they eventually did a devastator in standard Combiner Wars size. Really, the only hurdle they'd have would be making a connection between Hook and Long Haul somehow. Then they'd use the standard CW ports for the limbs.

If they could engineer pegs so that they could all 6 be limbs or double stack for torso.... (which I know is a bit of a miracle)... that would be awesome. Maybe they could add additional combiner heads. Depending on who is the torso, you'd get a different combiner head.

Okay, yeah. I know I'm asking too much.

Having him in scale with the others would be a huge bonus. I'd re-buy the lot of them if they decided to re-scale them in a year or two.

gothsaurus wrote:I'd actually LOVE it if they eventually did a devastator in standard Combiner Wars size. Really, the only hurdle they'd have would be making a connection between Hook and Long Haul somehow. Then they'd use the standard CW ports for the limbs.

If they could engineer pegs so that they could all 6 be limbs or double stack for torso.... (which I know is a bit of a miracle)... that would be awesome. Maybe they could add additional combiner heads. Depending on who is the torso, you'd get a different combiner head.

Okay, yeah. I know I'm asking too much.

Having him in scale with the others would be a huge bonus. I'd re-buy the lot of them if they decided to re-scale them in a year or two.

If that happened I would cry rainbows of joy. Right now though, I am just looking toward ToyWorld's version and forget about that scale.

If they came out with a Devastator of that size though, I'd really want to also get a CW/UW Superion to fight with him.

On that note, I'll be looking forward to more titan sized bots... including Omega Supreme. (hoping) Having a nemesis for each of the big characters we already have would be great.

Devastator – Omage
Metroplex – Trypticon
Max – Scorponok

I'm also down for repaints for conventions. Talking about G2 Devy, Metrotitan, Grand Max, Black Zarak, Omega Sentinel...

Now who could a repaint for Trypticon be???

Adrian

Kurona wrote:On a more positive note, I do like the idea of making the folded up beast legs his feet instead of leaving them off to the side - that plagued the G1 Predacons and a ton of Beast Wars figures so much and still plagues poor Skullsmasher. So while I'm still not entirely sure if I like how it turns out, I'm all for any effort to make them not just hang off the sides.

Do you guys think there's any molding similarities between this toy and Sinnertwin?




I'm still riding this Doublecross and Sinnertwin sharing engineering in the same way Chromedome and Dead End do theory.

If they did those.....wouldn't that be leaning more towards Combiner Wars then
rather than Titans Return If they did the Terrorcons! coz you know you'd want Abominus

speaking of combiners....it's a pity there were never any Headmaster Combiners(& i mean ones like Abominus, Computron, Superion ect).

Headmaster Combiners.... as if they didn't have enough parts to lose already.

There were Pretender Combiners however.

Also Ryan and them were saying they should be remolded or used as the basis for the rumored beast series following TR, and make combining Abominus/Predaking/etc.

Seibertron wrote:

Kurona wrote:On a more positive note, I do like the idea of making the folded up beast legs his feet instead of leaving them off to the side - that plagued the G1 Predacons and a ton of Beast Wars figures so much and still plagues poor Skullsmasher. So while I'm still not entirely sure if I like how it turns out, I'm all for any effort to make them not just hang off the sides.

Do you guys think there's any molding similarities between this toy and Sinnertwin?




I'm still riding this Doublecross and Sinnertwin sharing engineering in the same way Chromedome and Dead End do theory.

And Alpha Trion as a remolded Razorclaw. And Weirdwolf as Rampage, Tantrum or Headstrong (or all 3). Mindwipe remolded as Cutthroat (and maybe the same engineering for Swoop). The animal combiners are on their way folks!

To be honest, I could see Doublecross being used as the basis for either Sinnerstwin/Twinstrike, or Hun-Gurr, from their Prime incarnations (which were repurposed for G1). Hun-Gurr was a biped, but Twinstrike had heads for hands.
Actually, we don't know what the transformation scheme is yet, it's quite possible that it won't allow for any limb modes (Read: try it once you get him!)

gothsaurus wrote:
Now who could a repaint for Trypticon be???

Adrian

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