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If we are taling about female TFs, I would rather we get a Nickel before Glyph.

EDIT: I realize we are rather talking of redecos for this BB mold, oops.

But... But... I still havent found Quake yet!! Or Broadside!

william-james88 wrote:

gothsaurus wrote: In the cartoon right from "more than meets the eye".

So was Hauler, and he has even less toys than Cliffjumper. At least Cliffjumper has a recent generations legends class toy. So you could use that one and this new Bee and have them both on your team looking different. Thats what I aim to do.

Hauler was a mistake by Sunbow. Look at the year one catalog poster. Not on there, because there never was such a character intended. Not even in mail orders like Reflector, also not on the poster.

william-james88 wrote:If we are taling about female TFs, I would rather we get a Nickel before Glyph.

EDIT: I realize we are rather talking of redecos for this BB mold, oops.

I still want Nickel, Will!
This one might be a KO, tho

I always want more femme bots -- I'd still like Megatronia some day!

Optimum Supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

gothsaurus wrote: In the cartoon right from "more than meets the eye".

So was Hauler, and he has even less toys than Cliffjumper. At least Cliffjumper has a recent generations legends class toy. So you could use that one and this new Bee and have them both on your team looking different. Thats what I aim to do.

Hauler was a mistake by Sunbow. Look at the year one catalog poster. Not on there, because there never was such a character intended. Not even in mail orders like Reflector, also not on the poster.

Not quite. It's likely that Hauler aka Grapple was held back one year for unknown reasons, the news reached the studios just in time for him not to appear again until Season 2. Such changes do happen.

Enough with the Transformers, I want to know what flavor of Ben and Jerry's that was! Americone Dream is the best, obviously.

PhunkJunkion wrote:Enough with the Transformers, I want to know what flavor of Ben and Jerry's that was! Americone Dream is the best, obviously.

Was looking for "Keep Caramel and Cookie On," but I spent all my luck on TFs. Settled for Pistachio Pistachio. Winner for least-clever name.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:Honestly? I would love to get a Glyph. There's so few female transformers as is it'd be nice to get one of the ones that DOES exist. And is really adorable

If we were to get a Glyph (and hopefully keeping her battle-masked face intact), I'd demand that we'd also get a Tap-Out redecoed from the awesome that is GDO Cliffjumper.

Did a digibash of that years ago!

Could be up there since (At least for me) when I google "Tapout transformers" I find my old art such as WFC Tapout and my Prime Tapout both which are actually meh when I look back. (At least I updated them)

DecepticonFinishline wrote:

PhunkJunkion wrote:Enough with the Transformers, I want to know what flavor of Ben and Jerry's that was! Americone Dream is the best, obviously.

Was looking for "Keep Caramel and Cookie On," but I spent all my luck on TFs. Settled for Pistachio Pistachio. Winner for least-clever name.

Meanwhile here I am in Australia, stunned at the very concept of being able to buy food (let alone Ben & Jerry's ) and Transformers at the same store!



Anyways, I've had Brawn for just a little over 24 hours now and I have to say I'm quite enjoying the figure. No pictures yet 'cause I'm lazy, but he's absolutely a fun little figure and probably tied for my fourth-favorite Legends mold so far in the line. (Bear in mind that while that doesn't sound like much, I think TR has had some of the best Legends in a while; he's surpassed by Wheelie, Kickback and Gnaw, and I'd put him about even with Bee at this point.) I do still have my issues with him, primarily a few paint blemishes - despite the fact that I picked the best-painted of the three there, he's still got some noticeable smudging on the left forearm - and the fact that his torso seems... oddly-proportioned in robot mode.

I don't know exactly what it is about the torso - maybe it's that having the exact same dimensions all the way to the hips makes it seem like he has a giant 'chest', maybe it actually is a bit too long to fit proportionally. (Upon examining images, it does indeed look like the 'chest' area has been way stretched-out, comparing it to both cartoon and toy renditions.) Either way, it bothers me a bit and makes him a little less dynamic-looking, but by no means does it outweigh any of the positives!

That aside, there's just something about him that leaves me feeling underwhelmed somehow. Maybe it's the slight imperfections, maybe it's the fact that I've been looking for him for so long that it feels unreal to actually hold him in my hand - but something leaves me with less of an impression than I usually have when I pick up a new TF. I have a right blast whenever I actually play with him and there's no definable quality that really brings him down much, aside from the mis-proportioned torso, but I guess it's just some personal combination of factors that makes him feel like less of an 'event' than a new toy usually does.

Of course, more than usual in a review, I'd say that this underwhelming-ness is a very personal thing. Objectively, Brawn's a pretty great toy! And I don't regret buying him in the least; far from it! I just wish he left more of an impact on me, for a toy I'd spent so long pining after.

One of the Wal-Marts near me finally got this wave in, so I picked up Top Spin, and it scanned at $9.88! Even though the shelf tag said $14.92. Not sure if it's a computer error or an unknown sale.

Ironhide516 wrote:One of the Wal-Marts near me finally got this wave in, so I picked up Top Spin, and it scanned at $9.88! Even though the shelf tag said $14.92. Not sure if it's a computer error or an unknown sale.

Are you in the US? I want to leave the office and start hunting right now!!

Ironhide516 wrote:One of the Wal-Marts near me finally got this wave in, so I picked up Top Spin, and it scanned at $9.88! Even though the shelf tag said $14.92. Not sure if it's a computer error or an unknown sale.

SCOOOOOORE!

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Ironhide516 wrote:One of the Wal-Marts near me finally got this wave in, so I picked up Top Spin, and it scanned at $9.88! Even though the shelf tag said $14.92. Not sure if it's a computer error or an unknown sale.

Are you in the US? I want to leave the office and start hunting right now!!

Yep, found them in the Lockport, NY Wal-Mart, north of Buffalo.

Ironhide516 wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Ironhide516 wrote:One of the Wal-Marts near me finally got this wave in, so I picked up Top Spin, and it scanned at $9.88! Even though the shelf tag said $14.92. Not sure if it's a computer error or an unknown sale.

Are you in the US? I want to leave the office and start hunting right now!!

Yep, found them in the Lockport, NY Wal-Mart, north of Buffalo.

Sweet. Thanks.

I guess I know what I'll be doing for my lunch hour!
#theHunt

DecepticonFinishline wrote:Don't judge my diet choices. I eat real food, I promise.

Meat is good food.

Hasbro artist Ken Christiansen has posted an image of his concept art for Titans Return Twinferno's toy. You can see what made it and didn't make it to the final toy. For instance, we can see the stark contrast for the organic arms and legs in dragon mode. However, the dragon heads do not have an underbite and the the torso is more wide than it is long.

Enjoy!

I do wonder how it was intended to transform, though - assuming it would use the same transformation scheme as the final TR toy would make for an extremely wonky robot mode. I have to admit that the monster mode does look fantastic there... but where was the TM cockpit originally, I wonder? There doesn't seem to be one on the chest.

Qwan wrote:I do wonder how it was intended to transform, though - assuming it would use the same transformation scheme as the final TR toy would make for an extremely wonky robot mode. I have to admit that the monster mode does look fantastic there... but where was the TM cockpit originally, I wonder? There doesn't seem to be one on the chest.

Maybe this was like the original Galvatron and Alpha Trion designs; where they weren't initially designed for Titans Return but got co-opted in? It would certainly go some way in explaining why he's randomly there and his two cohorts don't get the same treatment.

Kurona wrote:

Qwan wrote:I do wonder how it was intended to transform, though - assuming it would use the same transformation scheme as the final TR toy would make for an extremely wonky robot mode. I have to admit that the monster mode does look fantastic there... but where was the TM cockpit originally, I wonder? There doesn't seem to be one on the chest.

Maybe this was like the original Galvatron and Alpha Trion designs; where they weren't initially designed for Titans Return but got co-opted in? It would certainly go some way in explaining why he's randomly there and his two cohorts don't get the same treatment.

Hmm, that might be right. Given that the final product doesn't exactly have the greatest TM integration (cockpit on the front, two pegs on the back), it doesn't seem far off that the design could have been altered to accommodate them - plus possibly some other changes.

In fact, if the original transformation scheme involved rotating the beast heads out to the sides, rather than downward on a single panel as in the final, that could also explain a) what the hypothetical chest space could be used for in robot mode (to store the beast arms that may rotate in there to hide); and b) why the torso is so short, since if there's no need for a cockpit or that huge long folding chest-flap, the body can be as short and stocky as they'd want! That would also explain why the neck bases/robot shoulders seem to be attached directly to the top of the torso, rather than to the inner-front of the chest and then pegged into the top of the torso, if the panel they're attached to was intended to be there (instead of above and in front).

Man, I don't even know if I'm articulating this well at all. It's definitely not an obvious change, more something I'm just sort of constructing in my mind, but at the same time I wouldn't say it's too impossible for that to have been the case originally. TL;DR Hypothetical alternate transformation schemes are fun! I still don't know what they'd do about those teensy robot legs, though...

I love this artwork. My Twinferno is my new fave and I like this beginning to the design process.

Qwan wrote: Hmm, that might be right. Given that the final product doesn't exactly have the greatest TM integration (cockpit on the front, two pegs on the back), it doesn't seem far off that the design could have been altered to accommodate them - plus possibly some other changes.

In fact, if the original transformation scheme involved rotating the beast heads out to the sides, rather than downward on a single panel as in the final, that could also explain a) what the hypothetical chest space could be used for in robot mode (to store the beast arms that may rotate in there to hide); and b) why the torso is so short, since if there's no need for a cockpit or that huge long folding chest-flap, the body can be as short and stocky as they'd want! That would also explain why the neck bases/robot shoulders seem to be attached directly to the top of the torso, rather than to the inner-front of the chest and then pegged into the top of the torso, if the panel they're attached to was intended to be there (instead of above and in front).

Man, I don't even know if I'm articulating this well at all. It's definitely not an obvious change, more something I'm just sort of constructing in my mind, but at the same time I wouldn't say it's too impossible for that to have been the case originally. TL;DR Hypothetical alternate transformation schemes are fun! I still don't know what they'd do about those teensy robot legs, though...

Maybe they'd still unfold from the tail end? I do like how they managed to turn him into a TR if this was a previous design. To those that have this toy, I have a question. What is the purpose of his crotch plate being able to flip up? Just for added leg articulation?

Nexus Knight wrote:Maybe they'd still unfold from the tail end?

Heh, yeah you're probably right. I'd somehow forgotten how Twinferno's lower body transforms (despite having owned him for like four months ), and had this idea that the puny little lower-monster-body was what turned into his entire lower legs. But yeah, now that you've reminded me how the thing actually works, the tail's probably still big enough to retain fine leg proportions in robot mode.

Nexus Knight wrote:To those that have this toy, I have a question. What is the purpose of his crotch plate being able to flip up? Just for added leg articulation?

Yeah, it seems to be pretty much for articulation only. It certainly doesn't do anything for beast mode - in fact, if you have it in any position other than default-straight-down, it gets in the way of a bunch of connections for the legs and tail. So yeah, probably just to let him move his robot hips more than like 10 degrees forward.
(I'm pretty confident on the above, but I understand if you don't trust me on it, seeing as I'm the same guy who totally forgot how the toy even worked an hour ago. )

Haha, no prob. I just found out something cool about one of my toys I've had for a long while (don't remember which, so lotta good that did me). Though, I did notice that I'm not the only one who thinks his torso is a bit on the short end. His proportions seem fine in bot mode, but something about it just feels off.

william-james88 wrote:If we are taling about female TFs, I would rather we get a Nickel before Glyph.

EDIT: I realize we are rather talking of redecos for this BB mold, oops.

A Nickel would be good, and it would be really good if I could get one for a nickel.
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