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ExciKaiser wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

Agreed, just want to kill myself each time I read french bios.

Nah, save that for when you learn Dutch.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:What's really confusing to me is why they didn't just outright sell him as Optimus Prime. I mean the name does have 'Prime' in it and it obviously looks like him, but surely hearing that a boxset has Optimus Prime would entice kids and parents to check it out?

How many "Optimus Prime" figures does a line need?

I imagine the general process is something like this:

1. Is there a figure in the upcoming assortment not named Optimus Prime?
2. If yes, add another Optimus Prime to the upcoming assortment.
3. Repeat 1 and 2.

ExciKaiser wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.

Agreed, just want to kill myself each time I read french bios.

In fact it's very strange, I'm not sure it's google translate, at some point I start to believe it's a guy, but who is forced to use the same words as the english ones.

The sentence works (something which usually do not happens with G.translate), but the wording is definitely a no.

Qwan wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Kurona wrote:What's really confusing to me is why they didn't just outright sell him as Optimus Prime. I mean the name does have 'Prime' in it and it obviously looks like him, but surely hearing that a boxset has Optimus Prime would entice kids and parents to check it out?

How many "Optimus Prime" figures does a line need?

I imagine the general process is something like this:

1. Is there a figure in the upcoming assortment not named Optimus Prime?
2. If yes, add another Optimus Prime to the upcoming assortment.
3. Repeat 1 and 2.

4. ???
5. PROFIT!!

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hasbro and FunPub using the name "Ginrai" in the past does not preclude Hasbro balking at using the Japanese name in the present.

Balking? Dude, this current Hasbro team has a hard on for Japanese G1. They'd take every opportunity to use whatever Japanese character names that they'd could if they wanted to.

Look at the Liokaiser set they did. The few names that they changed were only changed because they couldn't use names that had "Hell", "Kill", and "Death" in them at retailers, and were only changed just enough to try to still keep true to the original names as much as possible.

Ergo, they wouldn't just randomly change "Ginrai" to something as wildly un-Ginrai-like as "Magnus Prime" if they wanted him to be Ginrai.

Allow me to clarify my point: Names like "Guyhawk" and "Drillhorn" are Japanes-continuity names, but they're still English-sounding. Ginrai, not so much. Of course, as you have pointed out this was originally planned as a "extensive Ultra Magnus recolor" and not "Slight Ginrai recolor" which would suggest A. the toy was more likely supposed to be {i]Delta[/i] Magnus than UM, OP, or Ginrai and B. once again the people writing the box bios are being ignorami who probably struggle to write their names or tie their shoelaces. And thus, between that and the drastic design change, the bio on the box has even less to do with the actual character in the box than Cybertron Mudflap's box bio.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Especially since that usage was on a toy sold at a convention and thus aimed directly at fans, while this is being aimed at a general market.

Hasbro used the name "Ginrai" in their 2003 Commemorative Series reissue of Powermaster Optimus Prime.

But only as a surrogate name for Hi-Q because trademark reasons (same reason TR Octane is called Octone on the packaging). The box still labels the main attraction as "Powermaster Optimus Prime". The only instance of a Hasbro-made toy using the Ginrai name and really meaning the main toy as a version of Ginrai is the Botcon one.

Sabrblade wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that said mech came to life as a true Transformer by the same name at the end of Masterforce,

Except that that guy stuck permanently to the name "God Ginrai" and never reassumed any of his other robot mode configurations, maintaining his God Ginrai configuration as his new default robot form, which the Magnus Prime bears little resemblance to and more like that of Super Ginrai, a form that was only ever assumed by the human Godmaster.

More importantly, the newly-living God Ginrai didn't have a detachable little companion anymore, being a singular whole Transformer from that point on.

A singular whole transformer who I'm pretty sure transformed to vehicle mode now and then and thus still had the cab robot even if it never operated on its own (and I'm pretty sure that all the recoloring of the TM signifies -if it signifies anything, it could just be a symptom of mold layout + Hasbro cheapness- is an homage to the separate "small Optimus Prime" cab robot of the original toy, after all, what would be the American basis to change it from Hi-Q"Autobot Apex"?)

As an additional note, American-continuity Ginrai-the-Robot obviously has a different history from his Japanese-continuity counterpart.

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Aw, they didn't try making the Base Mode look any closer to the original. It still looks like he's trying to copy Dai Atlas's Zone Mode.

Sabrblade wrote:Aw, they didn't try making the Base Mode look any closer to the original. It still looks like he's trying to copy Dai Atlas's Zone Mode.

Wait till do the Attempted Base mode like Black Convoy's but i'm sure Takara will do the same though, sad

Sabrblade wrote:Aw, they didn't try making the Base Mode look any closer to the original. It still looks like he's trying to copy Dai Atlas's Zone Mode.

I don't see how that's even remotely possible.

Sabrblade wrote:Aw, they didn't try making the Base Mode look any closer to the original. It still looks like he's trying to copy Dai Atlas's Zone Mode.

Yeah, well, he's only a Leader-class and not a Supreme-class (and a modern, Generations Leader-class at that - definite shrinkage compared to Movie 1&2 or Unicron Trilogy Leader-class figs). No room for the plastic needed for the conveyors and such, plus probably the contemporary aversion to partsforming.

On the subject of a different figure, does everyone's Kup have a smegged-up cockpit that doesn't snugly seat a Titan Master or is it just mine?

Thanks to our standard weibo user 淘宝店变形金刚改造工厂, we have a new Titans Return reveal, this time in the form of Leader Class Overlord's packaging! The packaging follows previous examples, with Overlord's decapitated head floating above his body and the toy plainly visible. Also included is a picture of his base mode, which is unchanged from Sky Shadows. Check out the images below!

I can't wait for overlord.

Deja Vu?


Also See those Side Legs on Overlord's Base Mode? you can see it below right.



and there's a space for a Third Party parts addition for a turret and a crane for a base mode like this

Speaking of TR Cosmos......

He's secretly a Beyblade

I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

They've already covered both between Overlord and Sky Shadow. Ominus's design is based on Mega while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

They've already covered both between Overlord and Sky Shadow. Ominus's design is based on Mega while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

Ah. Thank you. I didn't know this. I have no interest in Sky Shadow so I never bothered to look. I guess I'll try to pick up his Titan Master by itself if I can.

That Overlord...

Sky Shadow is an excellent figure wo be extension, Overlord will be too. I'll buy a Titan Master that is close enough to fill in the missing powermaster's role. This will give Overlord a face-swapping gimmick!

I'm thinking of using Overboard as a 2nd TM for Overlord

Sabrblade wrote:while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

Was actually hoping the TM would be named Giga, or a variation of it .

Anyways, as for the bio translations in other languages, its been a long time since high school Spanish for me, however...could it be the bios use more of a Castilian (Spain) dialect rather than say...the Spanish spoken in Mexico and the rest of the North and South American Continents? I mean I know they are very much the same. But since people from the United States have trouble understanding people from the UK, Australia etc.... (and vice versa) I know the same goes for different dialects of different languages.

I know close friends of mine are learning Portuguese. The trouble is what they are learning is *Traditional*, yet most of the people they speak to are from Brazil, which presents some challenges.

So with regards to the Siege On Cybertron set being sold out at BBTS, does anyone know if it's sold out sold out, or sold out until they figure out their amount of incoming stock?

^ I don't think that's a question any of us can answer at the moment, even BBTS. The only suggestion I can offer is to check BBTS daily. Occasionally someone may cancel an order, which will bring that item instantly back available for pre-order, that's how I have gotten a few items actually. If another source can be found to purchase this set (It is I am told only a BBTS exclusive in the United States, other retailers will have it in other countries I assume), I'm sure it will be made a news article here

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

They've already covered both between Overlord and Sky Shadow. Ominus's design is based on Mega while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

I'm not really knowledgeable about the Japanese series, but Giga and Mega were husband and wife, right? So if Dreadnaught and Ominus are based on Giga and Mega, what sort of relationship do Sky Shadow and Overlord have? Would they be Metamours? In laws?

Is overlord sentient in your uestion? Or is ge like in masterforce, a blank transtector. Assuming sky shadow woud ve the same:

If sentient, no relation. Just work buddies who happen to carry around a friend who hppens to ve married to someone being carried by his Buddy.


If not sentient, then they are married as they would be the persona of their titan master who is controlling them.

Caelus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder if we'll get a 2nd Titan Master with Overlord, or if we'll get a separate one by itself. If not an official one, there will be at least a 3rd party Mega (or Giga, whichever is missing), I hope.

They've already covered both between Overlord and Sky Shadow. Ominus's design is based on Mega while Dreadnaught's design is based on Giga. So they want us to buy both figures to get both of the Titan Masters based on Overlord's original Godmasters.

I'm not really knowledgeable about the Japanese series, but Giga and Mega were husband and wife, right? So if Dreadnaught and Ominus are based on Giga and Mega, what sort of relationship do Sky Shadow and Overlord have? Would they be Metamours? In laws?

Dreadnaught and Ominus may have designs based on Giga and Mega (who, yes, were husband and wife), but that doesn't mean that Dreadnaught and Ominus are Giga and Mega.

After all, Sixshot's Titan Master, Revolver, is designed after Chromedome's friend Jack, but Revolver certainly isn't Jack.