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Sigma Magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:I have to say...Titans Return is the first line...well, ever, that I've wanted pretty much every figure from.

I must second that. Even the repaints/retools look great.

You guys are gonna pick up those 3 crashbash toys then?

I can't speak for Springer. But for cost reasons, I'll be avoiding the Titan Master class entirely.

...everything else though, they will be on my shelf.

Ah too bad. I recomend you wait and see which are the best adn try some. I actually like them more than Blaster since they are original. Its pretty cool how they maximize functionality at that scale. I would really recomend you try one of the crashbash repaints. Its pretty cool how they integrate the titan master into the T-rex. And he can fly a dragon too

OH MY GOD ITS LEADER CLASS SIXSHOT!!!!!!

I'll probably be getting Clobber for some sort of Grimlock custom or something if they don't come out with a Leader Grimlock.

Bumblebee21 wrote:OH MY GOD ITS LEADER CLASS SIXSHOT!!!!!!

Yeah I saw that. I noticed that the crotch piece and upper legs look almost identical to Blaster's.

SillySpringer wrote:I'll probably be getting Clobber for some sort of Grimlock custom or something if they don't come out with a Leader Grimlock.

Leader Grimlock? I'd guess he'd be a Voyager...but then, what would the second alt-mode be?
...and if he was a leader, how do you get a base mode out of a T Rex?

Sigma Magnus wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I'll probably be getting Clobber for some sort of Grimlock custom or something if they don't come out with a Leader Grimlock.

Leader Grimlock? I'd guess he'd be a Voyager...but then, what would the second alt-mode be?
...and if he was a leader, how do you get a base mode out of a T Rex?

They made a friggin space-ship out of a lion for Alpha Trion. I think they'd find a way.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I'll probably be getting Clobber for some sort of Grimlock custom or something if they don't come out with a Leader Grimlock.

Leader Grimlock? I'd guess he'd be a Voyager...but then, what would the second alt-mode be?
...and if he was a leader, how do you get a base mode out of a T Rex?

Make it a brick dinosaur

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:I'll probably be getting Clobber for some sort of Grimlock custom or something if they don't come out with a Leader Grimlock.

Leader Grimlock? I'd guess he'd be a Voyager...but then, what would the second alt-mode be?
...and if he was a leader, how do you get a base mode out of a T Rex?

Make it a brick dinosaur

Trypticon anyone? He turned into a base. I think Grimlock could too.

A big question I have is this: Are they still gonna make Sixshot the sixchanger, or will they stick with the 3 (or more) mode guy with a base mode added in? Just cause of the size class for the base mode

SillySpringer wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:I have to say...Titans Return is the first line...well, ever, that I've wanted pretty much every figure from.

I must second that. Even the repaints/retools look great.

You guys are gonna pick up those 3 crashbash toys then?

I can't speak for Springer. But for cost reasons, I'll be avoiding the Titan Master class entirely.

...everything else though, they will be on my shelf.

I have a feeling that the Titan Master packs are gifts for customizers. Now instead of buying two figures and switching the heads, now we can just buy one figure, and one Titan Master, and make whatever character we want! I think Chromedome could make a good Nightbeat custom.

Chromedome in general looks like he could be a good basic car mold. I'm a bit more excited for the idea of a possible custom of him into Siren tho; since the Siren head is good and the Nightbeat head is a little... do not want.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A big question I have is this: Are they still gonna make Sixshot the sixchanger, or will they stick with the 3 (or more) mode guy with a base mode added in? Just cause of the size class for the base mode

If they pull off six modes I'll be kind of amazed. But if they don't... well, I think I'll be the only one that wouldn't be disappointed. At the very least I'm sure they'll pull off a jet, and the "car" and "tank" on the original toy are at least similar enough to possibly have both be pulled off here.
Would toy gun laws since the 80s prevent his gun mode?

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A big question I have is this: Are they still gonna make Sixshot the sixchanger, or will they stick with the 3 (or more) mode guy with a base mode added in? Just cause of the size class for the base mode

If they pull off six modes I'll be kind of amazed. But if they don't... well, I think I'll be the only one that wouldn't be disappointed. At the very least I'm sure they'll pull off a jet, and the "car" and "tank" on the original toy are at least similar enough to possibly have both be pulled off here.
Would toy gun laws since the 80s prevent his gun mode?

Wouldn't think so since he is a space laser and Shockwave was ok. I really hope for all 6 modes, but I'm wondering about the base mode and about compromise in the design.

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A big question I have is this: Are they still gonna make Sixshot the sixchanger, or will they stick with the 3 (or more) mode guy with a base mode added in? Just cause of the size class for the base mode

If they pull off six modes I'll be kind of amazed. But if they don't... well, I think I'll be the only one that wouldn't be disappointed. At the very least I'm sure they'll pull off a jet, and the "car" and "tank" on the original toy are at least similar enough to possibly have both be pulled off here.
Would toy gun laws since the 80s prevent his gun mode?

They'd probably replace the gun with a base mode.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A big question I have is this: Are they still gonna make Sixshot the sixchanger, or will they stick with the 3 (or more) mode guy with a base mode added in? Just cause of the size class for the base mode

Pretty sure he will retain them. If you look at the original toy, the modes are rather samey and reuse the same parts just oriented differently. So now with modern articulation redoing that would be even easier.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A big question I have is this: Are they still gonna make Sixshot the sixchanger, or will they stick with the 3 (or more) mode guy with a base mode added in? Just cause of the size class for the base mode

If they pull off six modes I'll be kind of amazed. But if they don't... well, I think I'll be the only one that wouldn't be disappointed. At the very least I'm sure they'll pull off a jet, and the "car" and "tank" on the original toy are at least similar enough to possibly have both be pulled off here.
Would toy gun laws since the 80s prevent his gun mode?

Wouldn't think so since he is a space laser and Shockwave was ok. I really hope for all 6 modes, but I'm wondering about the base mode and about compromise in the design.

Shockwave was okay because he was tiny. iirc The crux of toy gun laws is that they have to be the general size of a gun; that can be a bit cryptic, but generally a legends class figure can't really be passed off like that.

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:A big question I have is this: Are they still gonna make Sixshot the sixchanger, or will they stick with the 3 (or more) mode guy with a base mode added in? Just cause of the size class for the base mode

If they pull off six modes I'll be kind of amazed. But if they don't... well, I think I'll be the only one that wouldn't be disappointed. At the very least I'm sure they'll pull off a jet, and the "car" and "tank" on the original toy are at least similar enough to possibly have both be pulled off here.
Would toy gun laws since the 80s prevent his gun mode?

Wouldn't think so since he is a space laser and Shockwave was ok. I really hope for all 6 modes, but I'm wondering about the base mode and about compromise in the design.

Shockwave was okay because he was tiny. iirc The crux of toy gun laws is that they have to be the general size of a gun; that can be a bit cryptic, but generally a legends class figure can't really be passed off like that.

Look at masterpiece Laserwave though, no orange thing needed there. So long as it doesn't look like an existing gun (and Sixshot certainly isn't that) than it should be alright

The box art for Gnaw looks awesome.
I'm totally shocked they are releasing a Sharkticon. I never thought in a million years we'd see an updated Sharkticon.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Look at masterpiece Laserwave though, no orange thing needed there. So long as it doesn't look like an existing gun (and Sixshot certainly isn't that) than it should be alright

Thats a japanese toy, toy laws are different there. A better example would be Platinum Megatron fom this year.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Look at masterpiece Laserwave though, no orange thing needed there. So long as it doesn't look like an existing gun (and Sixshot certainly isn't that) than it should be alright

Thats a japanese toy, toy laws are different there. A better example would be Platinum Megatron fom this year.

True, but still, Sixshot is an outlandish enough gun he should be fine

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Look at masterpiece Laserwave though, no orange thing needed there. So long as it doesn't look like an existing gun (and Sixshot certainly isn't that) than it should be alright

Thats a japanese toy, toy laws are different there. A better example would be Platinum Megatron fom this year.

You certainly have a point with Megatron.
Still, if any mode were to go, I think the gun would be first. Even if not for toy laws but because it's probably the hardest one to fudge out of all the parts; like you said, most of the other modes follow the same general body just using parts a little differently.

We saw these new Titans Return toys in the flesh earlier already but Hasbro has now released the official images. Most of these are the same 3-d renders found in the back of the boxes. We also know the names now but some do differ from the file names in the Hasbro press kit:

Voyager class Megatron with Doomshot
Legends class Bumblebee
Legends class Gnaw
Titan Master Sawback (the Hasbro file says Lione)
Titan Master Overboard (the Hasbro file says Overkill)
Deluxe class Brainstorm

So glad I decided to sell my Classics Voyager Megatron when we got the rumor about him... I'll absolutely take this Megatron! Might skip on Prime and wait for the possible Octane/Tankor.

Sixshot's looking boss! Doubt we'll see more of him until much later, though, as well as Overlord... *flips table*

Gnaw is awesome, might have to troop build (obviously) with him.

Kinda want Bee, but at the same time I've got the 2013 Legends which I'm okay with...

Lione is unexpected. Nice companion piece to Alpha Trion, I think!

Brainstorm doesn't look as different as I thought he'd be. Which is nice, since I'd rather not pay top dollar just for one guy.

Does anyone know who Doomshot is based on? It looks a little like hun-gurr to me...

'Doomshot'.

*sigh* I am going to say it now. Megatron went from one of my most anticipated leaked figures, to being my least.