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The only ccomanies that would know that Metrotitan exists would be 3rd party ones! in fact they've kinda done that already......with Dystopia

Autobot N wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Aha! So that's how they're going to put Windblade in the next cartoon where she wants to kill everyone!

She'll go on a decapitation spree... and that's how Titan Masters were made!

Still a better story than the last one.

You have more faith in the sequel than most do.

SureShot18 wrote:Know I can just skip Triggerhappy because of Misfire.

WHAT?
WHAT?
WHAT??????

You do NOT skip Triggerhappy just because of a rumour. You go out and you search, and I don't care how long it takes you, just report into your family every now and then so they don't file a missing persons report, you go out and you find yourself a Triggerhappy right now!

I won't have any more talk like this!

Skipping over Triggerhappy. sheesh! That's just wrong.

william-james88 wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:fourth, as RiD also did a legends class Windblade.

I stand corrected. Forgot about that one.

I wouldnt count different classes, they serve different purposes. If we do then Thunderhoof has as many toys as her, so it get ridiculous to compare when the real deal here is that we have bering rbought to the foreground again in another line.

I fail to see what difference the size class makes when counting the official figure releases of a character.
And lets be honest, we should be in awe of the great Kospego, and be glad he has equal (or more) figure releases than Hasbro's latest Mary-Sue.

Burn wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:Know I can just skip Triggerhappy because of Misfire.

WHAT?
WHAT?
WHAT??????

You do NOT skip Triggerhappy just because of a rumour. You go out and you search, and I don't care how long it takes you, just report into your family every now and then so they don't file a missing persons report, you go out and you find yourself a Triggerhappy right now!

I won't have any more talk like this!

Skipping over Triggerhappy. sheesh! That's just wrong.

Of course if I see him in person I'll probably break and and buy him but if I don't I won't worry about ordering him. And in just a week it might not just be a rumor.

SureShot18 wrote:And in just a week it might not just be a rumor.

If he's a straight up repaint, it'll be a disappointment. But if there's slight remolding ... you're still going to have to get both.

I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

SureShot18 wrote:Know I can just skip Triggerhappy because of Misfire. Spinister out of Highbrow would have been a MUCH better idea than Windblade. We already have two decent Windblade figures and now a retool. I might also want Spinister because of Scavengers. Who am I kidding I definitely do. Oh and Twintwist is neat.

Agreed. They've already released a ton of Windblade figures, and RiD Windblade keeps getting rereleased enough as is.

Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before

Kurona wrote:

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before

Well you are News Crew, but even most of them accept the awesomeness that is Triggerhappy.

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before

Well you are News Crew, but even most of them accept the awesomeness that is Triggerhappy.

I love him too - again, heavy heart.
It's just that with my budget I have to prioritise MTMTE characters over everything else and for some reason no-one's used this guy yet. Hell, I think Arcee killed him off a few years ago.

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Burn wrote:

Kurona wrote:I will be skipping Triggerhappy for Misfire... but only with a heavy heart. Oh, if only Triggerhappy could have been the 1987 Targetmaster on the Scavengers...

Dead to me ...

He says as if it was different before

Well you are News Crew, but even most of them accept the awesomeness that is Triggerhappy.

Is he the new Stalker? Because if so, then you can count me on your side now. Although I also love TR HotRod way more than I thought I would.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Windblade: partial body and/or head retool (like Brainstorm out of Blurr, or Quake out of Hardhead). I know Will will count that as a redeco

Laugh all you want but I dont see why anyone would differ from saying that Quake, Krok and Getaway are straight redecos with new titan master faces.

Autobot N wrote:Found something interesting on TFW2005. As always, take with many grains of salt:

Hoffman wrote:I have no idea if this info came out and got buried in speculation threads or something, but I have some info on the next wave of TR Deluxes.

The new figures in this wave are Misfire, Twintwist, and Windblade. All retools.

The other figure listed in the assortment is Wolfwire. No packout details.

Hoffman wrote:Misfire - Triggerhappy
Twintwist - Topspin
Windblade - Highbrow

The guy owns a Canadian online store, so it's not out of the blue, but I still have my doubts.

Windblade again? OK I'l hold off the NaCl for now.

I can see that and that would be an extensive retool. The cockpit part would be remolded narrower, The wings slightly longer and the lower shins slimmer. The Headmaster/Titanmaster should be identified female. And the only company to do it right is Takara.

Well, technically Quake, Krok and Breakaway are retools... but it somehow makes more sense colloquially to say redeco.

Burn wrote:

SureShot18 wrote:And in just a week it might not just be a rumor.

If he's a straight up repaint, it'll be a disappointment. But if there's slight remolding ... you're still going to have to get both.

If he's just a repaint I'll be disappointed but if not...well like I said I'll probably break if I see Triggerhappy in store.

william-james88 wrote:I also love TR HotRod way more than I thought I would.

Yeah, I just can't seem to like him.

Sure I've never been a fan of the character since he grabbed The Matrix before Magnus did, but this figure just feels ... like it lacks personality? Like I said, I don't know why I'm not a fan of the figure, because character aside, I liked the Classics version and I like the MP version. TR though? There's just something about him I'm not fussed on.

WHAT
NO SLUGSLINGER? I'm unamused
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On the bright side Misfire is a Triggerhappy retool so im happy with that

Kurona wrote:Well, technically Quake, Krok and Breakaway are retools... but it somehow makes more sense colloquially to say redeco.

No, technically you can only call something a retool if they actually changed the tooling of the previous mold. The new face on Krok is not in any way based on the tooling from Skullcruncher. Its a different piece, a new mold. Nothing was changed to skullcruncher's actual mold, it wasnt touched and it wasnt even used for consulting purposes like the Dead End mold for Chromedome. So it cant be a retool. Its a straight redeco with a new piece. And in any case, the heads in this line are interchangeble accessories. The heads arent part of the body, they arent even attached in vehicle mode. its an accessory, like a gun. And I dont think that releasing the same mold with a new gun would be called a retool, it would be called the same mold with a new gun. Krok is the same skullcruncher mold with a new face. We dont have to find a new word for it, we dont have to look for the right technicality, thats all it is.

william-james88 wrote: We dont have to find a new word for it.

Should we call it "Parts Sharing? or "Parts Molding"

Albatross250 wrote:

william-james88 wrote: We dont have to find a new word for it.

Should we call it "Parts Sharing? or "Parts Molding"

You want to laugh, I just found this great phrasing on another boards:

boring new head repaint like Getaway

That should be the new term: boring new head repaint

So this is Wave 5 then and what they will show us at Toyfair:


Titan Master

C2389 Optimus Prime
C2390 Toraizer
C2391 Ramhorn


Legends

C2398 Cosmos
C2399 Seaspray


Deluxe

Misfire
Topsin
Windblade

Voyager

C2396 Octane
C2397 Blitzwing

Leader

C2388 Overlord

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Well, technically Quake, Krok and Breakaway are retools... but it somehow makes more sense colloquially to say redeco.

No, technically you can only call something a retool if they actually changed the tooling of the previous mold. The new face on Krok is not in any way based on the tooling from Skullcruncher. Its a different piece, a new mold. Nothing was changed to skullcruncher's actual mold, it wasnt touched and it wasnt even used for consulting purposes like the Dead End mold for Chromedome. So it cant be a retool. Its a straight redeco with a new piece. And in any case, the heads in this line are interchangeble accessories. The heads arent part of the body, they arent even attached in vehicle mode. its an accessory, like a gun. And I dont think that releasing the same mold with a new gun would be called a retool, it would be called the same mold with a new gun. Krok is the same skullcruncher mold with a new face. We dont have to find a new word for it, we dont have to look for the right technicality, thats all it is.

So you know for certain that the Titan Master and the actual figure aren't molded together? Even though the Titan Master is shared between each release of the mold; which if they weren't molded together, there wouldn't be any reason for?

Shauyaun wrote:I still don't get it
What's different about these cases?

You know what, I will make it easy. It means that stores are now getting cases full of one figure, like Mindwipe here.

So lets say you see no deluxes in your store and you are hoping for them to get the next wave. Well, the next case they could get could be a case full of just mindwipe. So instead of getting wave 3 or 4 next, you get a whole ton of mindwipes and they wont refresh the shelves until they sell.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Well, technically Quake, Krok and Breakaway are retools... but it somehow makes more sense colloquially to say redeco.

No, technically you can only call something a retool if they actually changed the tooling of the previous mold. The new face on Krok is not in any way based on the tooling from Skullcruncher. Its a different piece, a new mold. Nothing was changed to skullcruncher's actual mold, it wasnt touched and it wasnt even used for consulting purposes like the Dead End mold for Chromedome. So it cant be a retool. Its a straight redeco with a new piece. And in any case, the heads in this line are interchangeble accessories. The heads arent part of the body, they arent even attached in vehicle mode. its an accessory, like a gun. And I dont think that releasing the same mold with a new gun would be called a retool, it would be called the same mold with a new gun. Krok is the same skullcruncher mold with a new face. We dont have to find a new word for it, we dont have to look for the right technicality, thats all it is.

So you know for certain that the Titan Master and the actual figure aren't molded together? Even though the Titan Master is shared between each release of the mold; which if they weren't molded together, there wouldn't be any reason for?

I'd say, that, since the headmaster is likely a separate mold entirely, it's possible that they include several additional face's, since now, it's easy to recolor a figure and release it with minimal changes