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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:00 pm

Rated X wrote:I totally forgot about that colored picture. So I guess Alpha Trion is gonna be like the Sentinal Prime figure...a cheesy retool of a mold created for another character in which the retool gets released first. Im calling Lio Convoy as the character this mold was intended for. Im bet the spaceship mode was an afterthought and looks horrible.

But Alpha Trion was a lion before:

And Alpha Trizer wasn't Alpha Trion. He was a grown-up Cheetor.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:02 pm

Rumours suggest that this is alpha trion but nothing has been said about his titan master yet. Though we also haven't heard anything story wise about titan returns yet. Not even about a tie in with IDW

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:03 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:I totally forgot about that colored picture. So I guess Alpha Trion is gonna be like the Sentinal Prime figure...a cheesy retool of a mold created for another character in which the retool gets released first. Im calling Lio Convoy as the character this mold was intended for. Im bet the spaceship mode was an afterthought and looks horrible.
But Alpha Trion was a lion before:

And Alpha Trizer wasn't Alpha Trion. He was a grown-up Cheetor.

I actually don't know which I'd get (A3 or Lio Convoy) if that's true, I guess it just depends on how much I like the color or paint apps.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:06 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Found this combined pic on The Allspark:

A bit of projection based on the assumption of symmetry:

: Alpha Trion Reflection.png (253.86 KiB) Viewed 3554 times

Outside of the wingtips on the shoulders, I don't see many hints of his third mode. I'm also just now noticing he lacks anything approximating his distinctive cape.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:16 pm

Nuremburg Toy Fair reveal list slightly updated, seems to confirm Chromedone as merely a head for now.

• Titan class Fortress Maximus – said to be very massive and very G1-accurate, city mode is very much like in the previous leaked photo, did not appear to feature the IDW-inspired tread backpack
• Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head; packaging is said to be very similar to Combiner Wars, and Skullsmasher (Skullcruncher) seemed larger than the CW Deluxes

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:19 pm

Caelus wrote:
Amelie wrote:
Rated X wrote:Its just way too obscure for hasbro.

Obscure? The guy has had more screen time and dialogue than the vast majority of other characters in G1. He was in the show so much I was convinced there had to be a toy as a kid.

He's in (off the top of my head) 6 episodes and has heavy dialogue in all of them.

Plus, he made it into Transformers: Prime, so he's been on the TV screen (relatively) recently.

So, two thoughts:

(1) Will the Titanmaster component be named "A-3"? Or perhaps, "Micronus Prime"?

(2) Are we assuming this is Alpha Trion largely based on the color scheme? Someone earlier did point out that the back story with Nexus Prime and Onyx Prime may be an important point in the Titan Returns story arc, in which case, though it's unlikely that this is Onyx Prime, it could be that part of this is Onyx Prime? (I can't decide if that'd make me more or less inclined to get this figure.)

I don't care which character he is. He looks cool, so I'll get him. It's cool if he really is AT because he's a very rare charater but that doesn't affect my decision to buy him. Point! >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:21 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Nuremburg Toy Fair reveal list slightly updated, seems to confirm Chromedone as merely a head for now.

• Titan class Fortress Maximus – said to be very massive and very G1-accurate, city mode is very much like in the previous leaked photo, did not appear to feature the IDW-inspired tread backpack
• Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head; packaging is said to be very similar to Combiner Wars, and Skullsmasher (Skullcruncher) seemed larger than the CW Deluxes

Maybe he's just a Titan Master. Would be a missed chance but why not? Nightbeat is also a Titan Master now.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:22 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Nuremburg Toy Fair reveal list slightly updated, seems to confirm Chromedone as merely a head for now.

• Titan class Fortress Maximus – said to be very massive and very G1-accurate, city mode is very much like in the previous leaked photo, did not appear to feature the IDW-inspired tread backpack
• Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head; packaging is said to be very similar to Combiner Wars, and Skullsmasher (Skullcruncher) seemed larger than the CW Deluxes

That's a bit disappointing but I heard a rumor that all the heads will be getting proper bodies and these titan masters give the fans a choice between comic and g1 heads.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:10 pm

While it would be neat for Micronus Prime to be A3's head, I just don't want it to happen. I'd prefer "A3" or something like that and make Micronus a different guy, like legends or actually have RiD make a minicon toy of him.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:01 pm

Tranzilla wrote:As long as it doesn't end like this I'll be happy...

What's that a knockoff of?

Hellscream9999 wrote:#furryspaceshipsftw

#reversetransmetal

Emerje wrote:I know people are saying lion, but just how credible are our sources? Have they actually seen the lion mode or are they just assuming it'll be a lion since Hasbro did that one Alpha Trion prototype from BM Snarl and Alpha Trizer (a different character all together) from Thundertron.

In all fairness, Hasbro rehashing old ideas, particularly in the Generations line (which is basicallly dedicated to that), is not something I'd bet against.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:09 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Nuremburg Toy Fair reveal list slightly updated, seems to confirm Chromedone as merely a head for now.

• Titan class Fortress Maximus – said to be very massive and very G1-accurate, city mode is very much like in the previous leaked photo, did not appear to feature the IDW-inspired tread backpack
• Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head; packaging is said to be very similar to Combiner Wars, and Skullsmasher (Skullcruncher) seemed larger than the CW Deluxes

That's a bit disappointing but I heard a rumor that all the heads will be getting proper bodies and these titan masters give the fans a choice between comic and g1 heads.

I've noticed an inconsistency in this description:

Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head

Besides a blurry image of the head and the Transmissions Podcast (who stated that Chromedome was a full figure), we have received no confirmation thus far that Chromedome actually exists. And anyway, a TFW member asked the TP about the Chromedome/Dead End rumor, and they said this:

Transmissions Podcast wrote:At first we didn't think so, but after comparing pics of Dead-End to what we've seen of Chromedome, this looks like it could be plausible. It's difficult to judge because the Chromedome images are not of a finished toy. But the arms & legs do look similar and transformation and vehicle modes look similar enough that it could be a retool. Chromedome's vehicle mode looks very much G1 and his robot mode is a mix of G1 and IDW.

With the conflicting sources here, I am not sure who to trust.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:29 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Nuremburg Toy Fair reveal list slightly updated, seems to confirm Chromedone as merely a head for now.

• Titan class Fortress Maximus – said to be very massive and very G1-accurate, city mode is very much like in the previous leaked photo, did not appear to feature the IDW-inspired tread backpack
• Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head; packaging is said to be very similar to Combiner Wars, and Skullsmasher (Skullcruncher) seemed larger than the CW Deluxes

That's a bit disappointing but I heard a rumor that all the heads will be getting proper bodies and these titan masters give the fans a choice between comic and g1 heads.

I've noticed an inconsistency in this description:
Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head

Besides a blurry image of the head and the Transmissions Podcast (who stated that Chromedome was a full figure), we have received no confirmation thus far that Chromedome actually exists. And anyway, a TFW member asked the TP about the Chromedome/Dead End rumor, and they said this:
Transmissions Podcast wrote:At first we didn't think so, but after comparing pics of Dead-End to what we've seen of Chromedome, this looks like it could be plausible. It's difficult to judge because the Chromedome images are not of a finished toy. But the arms & legs do look similar and transformation and vehicle modes look similar enough that it could be a retool. Chromedome's vehicle mode looks very much G1 and his robot mode is a mix of G1 and IDW.

With the conflicting sources here, I am not sure who to trust.

Maybe our new Lord and Savior Crashbash was borrowing Chromedome's body to go do something important :-P

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:42 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Nuremburg Toy Fair reveal list slightly updated, seems to confirm Chromedone as merely a head for now.

• Titan class Fortress Maximus – said to be very massive and very G1-accurate, city mode is very much like in the previous leaked photo, did not appear to feature the IDW-inspired tread backpack
• Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head; packaging is said to be very similar to Combiner Wars, and Skullsmasher (Skullcruncher) seemed larger than the CW Deluxes

That's a bit disappointing but I heard a rumor that all the heads will be getting proper bodies and these titan masters give the fans a choice between comic and g1 heads.

I've noticed an inconsistency in this description:
Most of the already-known TR toys in package, including the Deluxes and Chromedome’s head

Besides a blurry image of the head and the Transmissions Podcast (who stated that Chromedome was a full figure), we have received no confirmation thus far that Chromedome actually exists. And anyway, a TFW member asked the TP about the Chromedome/Dead End rumor, and they said this:
Transmissions Podcast wrote:At first we didn't think so, but after comparing pics of Dead-End to what we've seen of Chromedome, this looks like it could be plausible. It's difficult to judge because the Chromedome images are not of a finished toy. But the arms & legs do look similar and transformation and vehicle modes look similar enough that it could be a retool. Chromedome's vehicle mode looks very much G1 and his robot mode is a mix of G1 and IDW.

With the conflicting sources here, I am not sure who to trust.

Maybe our new Lord and Savior Crashbash was borrowing Chromedome's body to go do something important

If your gonna go all Va'al with Crashbash, put a picture in your sig or something >:oP

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:27 pm

A lion Alpha Trion. Thought I'd never see that again. More than likely, this figure is going to be repainted and retooled into a Leo Prime, a Leobreaker, or a Snarl. If not by Hasbro, then Takara will do it. This is the new trend for Transformers today. >:oP

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:35 pm

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:A lion Alpha Trion. Thought I'd never see that again. More than likely, this figure is going to be repainted and retooled into a Leo Prime, a Leobreaker, or a Snarl. If not by Hasbro, then Takara will do it. This is the new trend for Transformers today.

Hey, let's not count out the awesome Cap'n Thundertron 8-)

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:37 pm

Can we start calling him Alpha Lion? Actually, the pauldrons look more like a wolf than a lion to me.

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:45 pm

If we're starting new teams I may have to enter the Thundertron Dome(forgive me Alpha Bravo :BOWDOWN:

). I didn't know he had such a following.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:18 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:With the conflicting sources here, I am not sure who to trust.

Trust nobody. Until we get official confirmation, assume everything is a lie.

by **Rated X** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:25 am

Deadput wrote:
Rated X wrote:

I totally forgot about that colored picture. So I guess Alpha Trion is gonna be like the Sentinal Prime figure...a cheesy retool of a mold created for another character in which the retool gets released first. Im calling Lio Convoy as the character this mold was intended for. Im bet the spaceship mode was an afterthought and looks horrible.

Or Alpha Trion is the intended use which by the way when they plan retools and repaints they plan them at the same time as the first use of the mold so there is no intended use when all uses of the mold were planned at the same time only exception would probably be straight up repaints that show up a couple years later.

It's not the first time Alpha Trion had a beast mode you know.

How about you actually see an image of the figure instead of a low quality box art pic before saying its awful like you do every time.

You really gotta like the triple changing lion concept to glorify this figure. I flat out dont. Either make it G1 or make it Alpha Trizer. Dont try to do both. I have Botcon 2007 Alpha Trion and Botcon knights Alpha Trizer. I also own the glorious 3rd party transforming Alpha Trion so Im good with this character. But if I was a "Hasbro retail only" collector, I would be very disappointed with this new figure to represent the character in my CHUG collection.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:31 am

Rated X wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Rated X wrote:I totally forgot about that colored picture. So I guess Alpha Trion is gonna be like the Sentinal Prime figure...a cheesy retool of a mold created for another character in which the retool gets released first. Im calling Lio Convoy as the character this mold was intended for. Im bet the spaceship mode was an afterthought and looks horrible.

Or Alpha Trion is the intended use which by the way when they plan retools and repaints they plan them at the same time as the first use of the mold so there is no intended use when all uses of the mold were planned at the same time only exception would probably be straight up repaints that show up a couple years later.
It's not the first time Alpha Trion had a beast mode you know.
How about you actually see an image of the figure instead of a low quality box art pic before saying its awful like you do every time.

You really gotta like the triple changing lion concept to glorify this figure. I flat out dont. Either make it G1 or make it Alpha Trizer. Dont try to do both. I have Botcon 2007 Alpha Trion and Botcon knights Alpha Trizer. I also own the glorious 3rd party transforming Alpha Trion so Im good with this character. But if I was a "Hasbro retail only" collector, I would be very disappointed with this new figure to represent the character in my CHUG collection.

Funny, I'm ecstatic over this figure, it looks amazingly detailed and assuming the lion mode isn't lacking, this'll fit right in into my collection 8-)

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:37 am

Rated X wrote:You really gotta like the triple changing lion concept to glorify this figure. I flat out dont. Either make it G1 or make it Alpha Trizer. Dont try to do both.

Think of it more like Alpha Trion having both his G1 and Beast Machines altmodes together at once. Alpha Trizer was Cheetor so he doesn't count, but Alpha Trion had a prototype for an unproduced BotCon toy back in the early 2000s that never got made but would have used the Beast Machines Snarl mold.

Though the toy didn't get released, Alpha Trion did get his lion form in the BotCon comics the toy would have been related to back then:

So this new Titans Return toy is finally gonna give Alpha Trion's Beast Machines lion mode a toy of its own, even if it'll look more like an update rather than exactly the same.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:18 am

Rated X wrote:
You really gotta like the triple changing lion concept to glorify this figure. I flat out dont. Either make it G1 or make it Alpha Trizer. Dont try to do both. I have Botcon 2007 Alpha Trion and Botcon knights Alpha Trizer. I also own the glorious 3rd party transforming Alpha Trion so Im good with this character. But if I was a "Hasbro retail only" collector, I would be very disappointed with this new figure to represent the character in my CHUG collection.

Why do I have to like the concept I'm simply stating that your saying this figure is going to be crap before you even see it.

The only transformer toys I don't personally like were the beast war ones because their animal forms looked organic I have no problem when it's done like Ravage or the Predacons when they are metal animals.

You don't know about this figure anymore then I do I'm not judging this figure until you know we actually see it and not tiny and blurry concept art.

And please do not compare third party to Hasbro it just doesn't work.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:36 am

Deadput...you don't like beast wars? The franchise that saved transformers?

Also I still don't see why people are saying wolf when the ears are nothing like those of a wolf...though we perhaps will get a wolf in this line through a decepticon head master...

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:04 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Deadput...you don't like beast wars? The franchise that saved transformers?

Also I still don't see why people are saying wolf when the ears are nothing like those of a wolf...though we perhaps will get a wolf in this line through a decepticon head master...

The ears? Really? You should look up pictures of lions and wolfs >:oP

The snout screams wolf all over it. And if you compare to Thundertron, he looks like a cross between a wolf and a lion.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:17 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Deadput...you don't like beast wars? The franchise that saved transformers?

Also I still don't see why people are saying wolf when the ears are nothing like those of a wolf...though we perhaps will get a wolf in this line through a decepticon head master...

I don't like the toys I have no problem with the show I think the show is decent.

I just don't like Transformers that turn into an actual organic creature it's not just a beast wars thing but I'm using that toyline as an example.

Another example is the human looking Pretenders although guys like Bludgeon look good since thier not turning into humans.