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Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote: Didnt mean to sound like such an old man

It's ok. We are all aloud some grump time. My turn.
Do you guys want this to be a reshell? I don't. Why are we assuming so?
For a toy this big and impressive, and at that price point, it better be a whole new toy. (or at least 80% of a new toy) Other than the over all size, shape, and function, I don't see the correlations. If it is a retool, I'd almost rather shell out another 100 bucks for the OG toy.

I am thinking of doing that RIGHT NOW. The only thing stopping me is not the price but the fact that we are moving next april and cant store too many things in the house since we are trying to make it as nice and spacious as possible for potential buyers.

And yes, its a reshell for sure, no reason they would use the same arms mold if it wasnt.

A few more things to note though:

The name written on the pic, David Chua, is a higher up at Hasbro Asia. The quantities are that of a platinum exclusive, so is the price and so is the fact that the description highlights "exclusive" features.

I think there is more and more evidence pointing us to the fact that this is most probably an Exclusive for Hasbro Asia that will get 3000 copies distributed in the states as a retailer exclusive.

grumpy-james88 wrote:the fact that we are moving next april

No wonder you're grumpy.

BillyJimmy88 wrote:And yes, its a reshell for sure, no reason they would use the same arms mold if it wasnt.

But how do you know that? I look at that picture and don't see the same arms. Maybe the hands. Look at the base mode (of that tiny picture ). The arms are laid out in front of him and appear to be possibly split open. Plex's arms don't do that. The shape of his shoulders and forearms are completely different.

Cobotron wrote:But how do you know that? I look at that picture and don't see the same arms. Maybe the hands. Look at the base mode (of that tiny picture ). The arms are laid out in front of him and appear to be possibly split open. Plex's arms don't do that. The shape of his shoulders and forearms are completely different.

Let me show you. Firstly, the pictures is a bit squished so he should look a little tallker than this.

Look at the forearms on the picture below, especially the circle. Notice that there are also these lines pointing diagonally down from the circle on the forearms?



Now look at gen metroplex in the exact same area:



Those forearms are the exact same mold. With the same molded detail of the circle and diagonal lines. Then make your eyes go up to the shoulders and if you take into account that the picture is squished a bit, you will see it is the very same proportions as metroplex with very similar shoulders. The feet might be the same mold too, not sure. But yes, looking at them both, it is a reshell with the torso area reworked for transformation and to accomodate the headmaster.

Oh another thing guys, its written Titan Wars and not Titans Return, so this could be an early image that is just surfacing now.

YAY!
MAXIMUS RULES!


but should wait for the cooler, more accurate, more elbow-abled Takara version?
he says with sharpened snarky snark

whos leg do I gotta hump to get a TRYPTICON?

Z3ROhour wrote:whos leg do I gotta hump to get a TRYPTICON?

No humping until you're over 18

Z3ROhour wrote:YAY!
MAXIMUS RULES!


but should wait for the cooler, more accurate, more elbow-abled Takara version?
he says with sharpened snarky snark

His elbows seem fine? Is this a devastator joke?

steals_your_goats wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:YAY!
MAXIMUS RULES!


but should wait for the cooler, more accurate, more elbow-abled Takara version?
he says with sharpened snarky snark

His elbows seem fine? Is this a devastator joke?

Thats what I gathered from it, yeah

On the one hand, FORTRESS MAXIMUS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

On the other hand, Metroplex retool. Meh.

On the OTHER other hand, this gives me an excuse to buy MakeToys Utopia as my Metroplex.

MemphisR56 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:YAY!
MAXIMUS RULES!


but should wait for the cooler, more accurate, more elbow-abled Takara version?
he says with sharpened snarky snark

His elbows seem fine? Is this a devastator joke?

Thats what I gathered from it, yeah

Okay thought so. The only thing I hope for out of this guy are heavier ratchets in his legs and arms. I feel like that's the one main fault in at least my Metroplex.

not sure if it will be a remold at all but this will be mine.

Please let this mean a brand new Scorponok too.

william-james88 wrote:A pretty convincing case.

i hope you know I'm not trying to be a turd here, but I'm still not 100% convinced. I see the circles, but...
Maybe I'm just being stubborn. I just want this to be new. I'll drop it for now, until we get new bigger, better pics. Which I am excited to see.
He still looks real cool, and at least he has guns on his knees!

Cryhavok wrote:Please let this mean a brand new Scorponok too.

Hasbro stated that they are making one titan class a year. Its Max this year, and they still have Omega Supreme, Predaking, Trypticon, Unicron and Scorponok in their to do list for the next years (the only one they mentioned out of those was Predaking though).

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A pretty convincing case.

i hope you know I'm not trying to be a turd here, but I'm still not 100% convinced. I see the circles, but...
Maybe I'm just being stubborn. I just want this to be new. I'll drop it for now, until we get new bigger, better pics. Which I am excited to see.
He still looks real cool, and at least he has guns on his knees!

Lets just say it this way:

Similar details on both Metroplex and Fort Max: coincidence, I think not

Looks interesting, might have to get it; wonder if it'll be bigger than gen metroplex, ya know, reclaim that title

Hellscream9999 wrote:Looks interesting, might have to get it; wonder if it'll be bigger than gen metroplex, ya know, reclaim that title

Probably make it the same size so they can share like good autobots

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:A pretty convincing case.

i hope you know I'm not trying to be a turd here, but I'm still not 100% convinced. I see the circles, but...
Maybe I'm just being stubborn. I just want this to be new. I'll drop it for now, until we get new bigger, better pics. Which I am excited to see.
He still looks real cool, and at least he has guns on his knees!

Lets just say it this way:

Similar details on both Metroplex and Fort Max: coincidence, I think not

Hey guys, does this help?

Here is further proof that the picture is squished. Look at metroplex's head in the hasbro presentation:



The one we see here is far wider. Someone corrected the image elsewhere, it should look like this:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Given the different look and if that is the actual transformation, different transformation areas, maybe it is a case of 2 molds that are so similar that they can be mistaken to be retools when they only share engineering? :

No, the mold for the forearms is identical.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Given the different look and if that is the actual transformation, different transformation areas, maybe it is a case of 2 molds that are so similar that they can be mistaken to be retools when they only share engineering? :

No, the mold for the forearms is identical.

It was worth a shot...

either way, Bring Him On!!!! Me wants!!!

Well this I'm interested in.

Man, what is everyone's issue with 'max being a remold or not? I mean, I thought it was dumb to begin with, but as near as I can tell, it uses the thighs and parts of the arms - should probably try to get over it at that point

Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, what is everyone's issue with 'max being a remold or not? I mean, I thought it was dumb to begin with, but as near as I can tell, it uses the thighs and parts of the arms - should probably try to get over it at that point

The only thing he has that are metros are the forearms. Torso is completely different, shoulders are retooled, legs and thighs are retooled. To me they look very different

william-james88 wrote:Lets just say it this way:
Similar details on both Metroplex and Fort Max: coincidence, I think not

I see what you did there ... with your jazz hands.

carytheone wrote:Hey guys, does this help?

Maybe.

william-james88 wrote:

Rickin' frickin' rackin' frackin'! Now I see what you're talking about.

Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point

Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.