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steals_your_goats wrote:Alpha trion
Wheelie
Optimus
Megatron
Triggerhappy
Double cross
Hot rod
Mindwipe
Weirdwolf
Highbrow and
Galvatron don't have any reuses everyone else has only one reuse with the exception of Nautica that's still unconfirmed and rewind but those were inevitable and I don't really think count.

Nice list, but there is even more if you count the titanmasters. Some have been redeco'd but quite a few are unique on the Hasbro side of things, like Apeface.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Iron apex

Who?

This guy http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Godbomber

I wasn't really bitching about it... was mostly just a joke and a jab at what's happened before. For what it's worth I'm pretty impressed by the Brainstorm retool of Blurr so far.

Breakdown of all rumored post Wave 2 TR stuff:

Wave 3 (presumably)

Deluxe:
Hot Rod
Triggerhappy
Doublecross
Getaway (repaint + new head)

Voyager:
Optimus Prime
Megatron

Leader:
Sixshot

Strength/Speed Packs
Titan Master:
Thunderclap

Voyager:
Optimus Prime (this could be where the alternate heads come in to play)

Leader:
Quickswitch (remold)

?:
Fastlane

Undetermined
Titan Master:
Powerhouse

Legends:
Chase
Brawn
Kickback
Bumblebee

Deluxe:
Krok (repaint + new head)
Quake (repaint + new head)
Kup
Topspin
Iron Apex
Nautica (remold)
Perceptor

Voyager:
Tidal Wave

Leader:
Magnus Prime (remold)

?:
Cloudraker
Pounce
Wingspan

Speculation:
Arcee
Twintwist
Broadside

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Iron apex

Who?

This guy http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Godbomber

Ah, didn't recognize the alternate name. Knew about Godbomber though.

Thanks for the class breakdown N the only thing I would change are the strength/speed sets.
Strength set:
Titan master unknown but I think it's powerhouse
Deluxe pounce, wingspan, iron apex
Voyager tidal wave
Leader Magnus prime

Speed set:
Titan master Thunderclap
Deluxe Nautica, fastlane, cloud raker
Voyager Optimus prime
Leader quickswitch

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Iron apex

Who?

This guy http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Godbomber

Ah, didn't recognize the alternate name. Knew about Godbomber though.

Yeah that's my bad I went with the name they used in the rumor not the one most people know.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote: actually painted them worth a damn

I do agree with this. Some molds make the lack of colors really work (see Quillfire), but others really need that bit of paint, and it is kinda sad to see the lack of paint on some figures deserving of it. Holding RiD Gigatron makes me realize how little paint is used nowadays. Heck, even with RotF leader prime, Generations Drift, etc to compare to there is a lack of paint. They hardly even paint the rear windows or anything on the back of a car mode.

Now mind you, some have really worked, as I look at my First Aid and Defensor Chest, but others really seem let down by paint.

So yes, I'd prefer new and better paint jobs.

Yeah, I get really agitated when I think about tr blurr vs. TT blurr, but then I look at tr A3 and he just blows my mind, clearly they prioritized the paint onto certain figures and left it off other figures where they could logically get away with it (as much as I hate to admit it, blurr being all blue plastic makes sense if they wanted the paint to go to others) Skullcruncher makes it work, possibly because of the high contrast between his 2 colors, then you have mindwipe who has like 3 different plastic colors, and Wolfwire whose paint apps are sparse, but concise. But I look at the paint apps on wolfwire's claws and wonder is they couldn't have put them to better use somewhere else, maybe give a bland figure some highlights...

steals_your_goats wrote:Thanks for the class breakdown N the only thing I would change are the strength/speed sets.
Strength set:
Titan master unknown but I think it's powerhouse
Deluxe pounce, wingspan, iron apex
Voyager tidal wave
Leader Magnus prime

Speed set:
Titan master Thunderclap
Deluxe Nautica, fastlane, cloud raker
Voyager Optimus prime
Leader quickswitch

I'm just listing the figures that were rumored as such:

Transmissions Podcast wrote:1. Titans Return Legends Chase based on the previously announced Bumblebee mold.
2. Titans Return Deluxe Perceptor. New mold.
3. Titans Returns Titan Master Thunderclap. New character?
4. Titans Return Fastlane.
5. Titans Return Leader Quickswitch. Recolor of Sixshot with new head.
6. Titans Return Deluxe Nautica. Remold of Blurr with shoulder fans.

There is also mention of a Speed Pack. News items 3-5 and Voyager Optimus are part of it.

Transmissions Podcast wrote:Decepticon Clones (Pounce/Wingspan) and Autobot Clones (Fastlane/Cloudraker) are getting figures.

(Which reminds me, I forgot Deluxe Perceptor)
The clones' size class was not confirmed, nor was anything else in the Strength/Speed class besides the guys mentioned. Not saying that it isn't happening (it probably is), but I'm just listing it as it was rumored.

SillySpringer wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Oh yeah, and I would hate a Nautica out of the Blurr mold.

Unfortunately, that's what has been rumored, and the rumors about which characters is proving all too true

I hope for once it is just simply a rumor.

Just remember guys that this is all based on what people saw. Those same people said Chromedome was a retool of Deadend. Not saying its not true (not going into that), just saying that Nautica could be as different from Blurr as Chromedome is from Dead End.

While I appreciate what scaleface does with compiling the rumors he kinda botched the stuff about the strength and speed packs. What I posted above is exactly what Charles on the podcast said. And I can't remember for sure but I believe they said the clones are deluxe titan masters.

steals_your_goats wrote:While I appreciate what Scaleface does with compiling the rumors he kinda botched the stuff about the strength and speed packs. What I posted above is exactly what Charles on the podcast said. And I can't remember for sure but I believe they said the clones are Deluxe titan masters.

Ah. I don't listen to the podcast, so I just go off of what that guy posts.

Autobot N wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:While I appreciate what Scaleface does with compiling the rumors he kinda botched the stuff about the strength and speed packs. What I posted above is exactly what Charles on the podcast said. And I can't remember for sure but I believe they said the clones are Deluxe titan masters.

Ah. I don't listen to the podcast, so I just go off of what that guy posts.

if I'm being honest I don't listen to it either, I just listen to the rumors

steals_your_goats wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:While I appreciate what Scaleface does with compiling the rumors he kinda botched the stuff about the strength and speed packs. What I posted above is exactly what Charles on the podcast said. And I can't remember for sure but I believe they said the clones are Deluxe titan masters.

Ah. I don't listen to the podcast, so I just go off of what that guy posts.

if I'm being honest I don't listen to it either, I just listen to the rumors

Where do you find these, then (not intended to be rude, if it seems like it)?

Autobot N wrote:Getaway (remold)

He isnt a remold, the body is a straight redeco.

Autobot N wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:While I appreciate what Scaleface does with compiling the rumors he kinda botched the stuff about the strength and speed packs. What I posted above is exactly what Charles on the podcast said. And I can't remember for sure but I believe they said the clones are Deluxe titan masters.

Ah. I don't listen to the podcast, so I just go off of what that guy posts.

if I'm being honest I don't listen to it either, I just listen to the rumors

Where do you find these, then (not intended to be rude, if it seems like it)?

Sorry I should've been more clear, I only listen to the podcast when they have a rumors segment and then I turn it off. This line has me more excited than a toy line ever has so I like to keep on top of everything circulating about it.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Getaway (remold)

He isnt a remold, the body is a straight redeco.

The head is different, and I'm just using remold as a general term for mold reuse.

steals-your-goats wrote:Sorry I should've been more clear, I only listen to the podcast when they have a rumors segment and then I turn it off. This line has me more excited than a toy line ever has so I like to keep on top of everything circulating about it.

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Getaway (remold)

He isnt a remold, the body is a straight redeco.

The head is different, and I'm just using remold as a general term for mold reuse.

I get it, but I wouldnt do that. Because it does send the wrong message to fellow fans and makes it on equal footing with Fort Max and PowerMaster Prime which are far more deserving of that term.

The titan masters are not linked as part of the mold to the bodies in this line (since the whole point is that the heads are independent of the bodies) and probably arent even on the same sprues. So the head being different no longer counts as a remold. Its just a redeco with a different titan master.

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Getaway (remold)

He isnt a remold, the body is a straight redeco.

The head is different, and I'm just using remold as a general term for mold reuse.

I get it, but I wouldnt do that. Because it does send the wrong message to fellow fans and makes it on equal footing with Fort Max and PowerMaster Prime which are far more deserving of that term.

The titan masters are not linked as part of the mold to the bodies in this line (since the whole point is that the heads are independent of the bodies) and probably arent even on the same sprues. So the head being different no longer counts as a remold. Its just a redeco with a different titan master.

I went ahead and changed it to (repaint + new head) along with Quake and Krok.

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Getaway (remold)

He isnt a remold, the body is a straight redeco.

The head is different, and I'm just using remold as a general term for mold reuse.

What if the head is a retool of a different Titan Master? That kind of retool seemingly leaves the body alone and only switches out the face.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Getaway (remold)

He isnt a remold, the body is a straight redeco.

The head is different, and I'm just using remold as a general term for mold reuse.

What if the head is a retool of a different Titan Master? That kind of retool seemingly leaves the body alone and only switches out the face.

Combiner Wars Deathsaurus seems to be doing that.
And for TR, that just means its a redeco with a retooled headmaster.

Sorry super late to the convo guys, but wasn't there a rumored Vector Prime out of Alpha Trion? OR just a Vector P rumor?

Haven't you guys noticed by now? I have gone like 5 posts without saying that Chromedome is a retool. I guess I have officially adopted you guys' definitions of "retool" and "shared engineering". I feel so pliable.

Cobotron wrote:Sorry super late to the convo guys, but wasn't there a rumored Vector Prime out of Alpha Trion? OR just a Vector P rumor?

I do remember that chainclaw posted something about a vector prime out of alpha trion but my list was solely based on the transmissions podcast rumors so I left him off. I also left off broadside out of tidal wave because that was just speculation based on tidal waves new alt modes.

steals_your_goats wrote:. This line has me more excited than a toy line ever has

Really? How come? I ask not to be rude, but I feel the complete polar opposite, and i am genuinely curious. Maybe something you say will give the line a spark for me.