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DecepticonFinishline wrote:So... Here is something that I noticed:
We got Smokescreen as an exclusive in Siege, but he is in the mainline this time.
Ironhide and Prowl are exclusives... Maybe Ratchet is just going to be a late wave mainline toy? And then the Earth-Bluestreak will be another 2-pack with someone else. Or maybe just a Hasbro Selects?
I dunno. But I'm locking in the Mainline-Ratchet theory.
Lore Keeper wrote:I just thought of something terrible. These Amazon exclusives are usually recolors or new-head retools of existing toys. What if the new Ironhide is just a red Hoist with a different head. They could justify it with "hE wAs A pIcKuP tRuCk In ThE mOvIeS!", and we'd end up with another awful toy like CW Ironhide... *shudder*
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:I just thought of something terrible. These Amazon exclusives are usually recolors or new-head retools of existing toys. What if the new Ironhide is just a red Hoist with a different head. They could justify it with "hE wAs A pIcKuP tRuCk In ThE mOvIeS!", and we'd end up with another awful toy like CW Ironhide... *shudder*
I actually thought of something more terrible, what if the new set is just a re-release of CW Prowl and CW Ironhide, but without any combiner hands/feet.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:I just thought of something terrible. These Amazon exclusives are usually recolors or new-head retools of existing toys. What if the new Ironhide is just a red Hoist with a different head. They could justify it with "hE wAs A pIcKuP tRuCk In ThE mOvIeS!", and we'd end up with another awful toy like CW Ironhide... *shudder*
I actually thought of something more terrible, what if the new set is just a re-release of CW Prowl and CW Ironhide, but without any combiner hands/feet.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Well ... it's not a disappointment to me. I want the prowl Bros. in Earth modes. Not "good enough to pass," not combiner limbs that share a mold with a Stunticon, not a simplified mold, not a Masterpiece. just a regular deluxe.
Skritz wrote:Looking at the list of characters from '84 to '85 who haven't had a new toy since Prime Wars and discounting the cheap retools that didn't fit the character or exclusives, here are those I could see needing something that fits in better with the WFC trilogy:
-Huffer/Pipes
-Tracks
-Blaster and cassettes (had a good toy but its vastly out of scale)
-Alpha Trion (still doesn't have a transforming toy of his original design in CHUG)
-Warpath (technically a Minibot too, but could be a Cliffjumper-sized deluxe)
-All 'Deluxe Insecticons'
One could also extend the list to some of the Movie-era cast, especially if they heavily disliked some of the CW/TR treatment (personally I didn't, but I know people hated Headmaster gimmick). One addition I'd personally like to see is a more proper Voyager-scaled Rodimus without any gimmicks, just goes from space winnebago to the Rodimus robot mode. There is also the case of 'missing' headmaster and targetmasters.
Beyond that, most of G1 has already been redone in the past few years. Like I said, Warden's team could extend it to Movies and Rebirth-era if they redoing those guys done during TR but I don't think any beyond Kup/Hot Rod/Blurr and Galvatron are popular enough with the latter being hinted. Arcee is also already coming, so there's that.
william-james88 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Well ... it's not a disappointment to me. I want the prowl Bros. in Earth modes. Not "good enough to pass," not combiner limbs that share a mold with a Stunticon, not a simplified mold, not a Masterpiece. just a regular deluxe.
I wanted that too and I got it... in siege.
Skritz wrote:'80 Nostalgia is big. It's simple as that. They don't need to take risks when they know the GEEWUN stuff will sell. **** I certainly bought plenty but at least I know where to stop. I think the idea is they want all the big names to be available every 2-3 years so any time some middle aged guy with disposable income want to get back into collecting, he can get the character he wants either right now or the next line, rather than go to the after market, third party or wait. Basically from here on out, every 1-2 lines you'll see repeats so we always have an Ironhide, a Ratchet, a Prowl, the seekers...
It make sense business-wise but it certainly kill the interest of people who have been collecting for more than 2-3 years in a row.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Well ... it's not a disappointment to me. I want the prowl Bros. in Earth modes. Not "good enough to pass," not combiner limbs that share a mold with a Stunticon, not a simplified mold, not a Masterpiece. just a regular deluxe.
I wanted that too and I got it... in siege.
That's what I meant by "good enough to pass." Siege is good enough to pass as an Earth mode if you add some stickers or just ignore the Cybertronian glyphs. But not for me. So I passed on it.
Skritz wrote:I also think the designers will paint themselves into a corner, trying to design yet another even MORE accurate GEEWUN Optimus Prime. Masterpiece got overly designed, complicated and has these awful backpacks are a mess to handled purely for the sake of fidelity to the goofy impossible animation models of the cartoon.
What do you think will happen if they keep trying to aim for the toon accuracy constantly, at any cost, on the ever-shrinking mainline budget? They will either hike the prices again or its going to become a mess. Not only that but I suspect this current 'brand unification' and 'evergreen' era of Transformers will eventually crash and burn if the next trilogy is more of the same thing.
william-james88 wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Well ... it's not a disappointment to me. I want the prowl Bros. in Earth modes. Not "good enough to pass," not combiner limbs that share a mold with a Stunticon, not a simplified mold, not a Masterpiece. just a regular deluxe.
I wanted that too and I got it... in siege.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I get the feeling that what would have made most folks happier is if Earthrise had been released as the first part of trilogy, with all of the characters from Siege who are not getting redone in Earthrise now being included in either the new Part 1 Earthrise or in its new Part 2 successor, and being written off as those unique individuals who simply chose not to scan new Earth forms, thus allowing the new Part 2 and Part 3 of the trilogy to not have as many character repeats in barely-changed bodies.
Over the years, the war for the domination and control of Cybertron has very often been fought on Earth and other planets.Skritz wrote:Calling it 'War for Cybertron' as a trilogy was a bad idea. WFC should have been the name of just the first line, unless they go back to it in the third one.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Skritz wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:Skritz wrote:The thing with Optimus always getting remakes is that Hasbro mandate he be a Voyager or Leader figure every line but, since lines don't have weird gimmicks like Prime Wars, he's always going to up as yet another minor tweak of the GEEWUN design. Call me when we get Leader Thunderclash pretooled as Machine Wars Optimus.
Part of me feels like Machine Wars Prime would be mainline, with Thunderclash being SELECTS
Hasbro isn't THAT ridiculous. When a mold is made for a character, the main use was always in a retail line.
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