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News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:53 pm

Starseeker wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's becoming extremely frustrating.

And now you know how the rest of the world feels.

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:31 pm

Bah! The wave 1 ER Battlemasters aren't even anywhere near my realm yet! And I haven't seen either of these up at Hasbro Pulse. What's the dealy-o?

by **AutobotAlvaron** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:03 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
AutobotAlvaron wrote:Wow! Titan Scorponok looks GREAT!

It seems like he's an all-new mold with no mold/ parts-sharing. Is that right? There were those who said he was a heavy re-mold of Omega Supreme.

I only wish he included his big orange rifle, his elevator, the other two double-cannons, & whatever city-mode bits Hasbro always leaves out due to budgetary restraints. Oh well, 3rd Party add-ons to the rescue, again!

I hope this mold gets a Black Zarak repaint/ remold.

Where did you hear that? I've never heard he was going to be a remold. The only titan to ever be a retool was Fortress Maximus.

I only meant that I hoped a Black Zarak got made from this mold. Since he has a different head & face, wouldn't that mean he NEEDS a re-mold or altogether new head-bot? :???:

by **AutobotAlvaron** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:15 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:For what it's worth somebody on Facebook did a tear down of Scorponok and apparently the internals are the same as Omega Supreme.

With Titan Fort Max, the re-use of Metroplex parts is pretty obvious. I am curious, could you detail what "internals" Scorponok shares with Omega? Is it only stuff like ratchets, springs, & screws, or is any molded plastic carried over? Just looking at photos, it is hard to tell. :???:

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:20 pm

AutobotAlvaron wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
AutobotAlvaron wrote:Wow! Titan Scorponok looks GREAT!

It seems like he's an all-new mold with no mold/ parts-sharing. Is that right? There were those who said he was a heavy re-mold of Omega Supreme.

I only wish he included his big orange rifle, his elevator, the other two double-cannons, & whatever city-mode bits Hasbro always leaves out due to budgetary restraints. Oh well, 3rd Party add-ons to the rescue, again!

I hope this mold gets a Black Zarak repaint/ remold.

Where did you hear that? I've never heard he was going to be a remold. The only titan to ever be a retool was Fortress Maximus.

I only meant that I hoped a Black Zarak got made from this mold. Since he has a different head & face, wouldn't that mean he NEEDS a re-mold or altogether new head-bot?

He was talking about your second paragraph, not your last sentence.

by **AutobotAlvaron** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:28 pm

Oh, sorry about that. Guys on FaceBook speculated that since their sizes were similar that Scorponok would likely be a heavy re-tool of Omega Supreme, like Fort Max & Metroplex were. I passed on Fort Max, because he seemed too similar & cheated a bit much for my liking. I have a Carrobots Brave Max, complete with Master Sword & both large guns, so I am satisfied with that. I want both Omega & Scorpy, but I've been wondering about their molds, since I've read contradicting things about them.

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:35 pm

AutobotAlvaron wrote:Oh, sorry about that. Guys on FaceBook speculated that since their sizes were similar that Scorponok would likely be a heavy re-tool of Omega Supreme, like Fort Max & Metroplex were. I passed on Fort Max, because he seemed too similar & cheated a bit much for my liking. I have a Carrobots Brave Max, complete with Master Sword & both large guns, so I am satisfied with that. I want both Omega & Scorpy, but I've been wondering about their molds, since I've read contradicting things about them.

Yeah, don't trust Facebook when it comes to things like that.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:48 am

AutobotAlvaron wrote:Oh, sorry about that. Guys on FaceBook speculated that since their sizes were similar that Scorponok would likely be a heavy re-tool of Omega Supreme, like Fort Max & Metroplex were. I passed on Fort Max, because he seemed too similar & cheated a bit much for my liking. I have a Carrobots Brave Max, complete with Master Sword & both large guns, so I am satisfied with that. I want both Omega & Scorpy, but I've been wondering about their molds, since I've read contradicting things about them.

No, I should have made my post clearer

But, yeah I don't see how Scorp could be a remold given the extreme differences, like how Omega transforms for one thing.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:05 am

It's possible he recycles some of the heavy ratchet joints from Omega, that that's what Chuckdawg meant by internals.

Speaking of heavy ratchet joints, I wonder what would be a good source for them... I have designs on kitbashing Fort Max's legs, and it's either heavy ratchets or swivels that bolt and unbolt.

LeAwesome1 wrote:Got some more pictures of the box as requested, you can see Bumblebee and Doubledealer on there

So you can. Of course, Bee's appearance doesn't necessarily mean he'll look like that if/when he gets a toy. I mean, one of the coneheads on Sky Lynx's box looked like the G1 toy.

LeAwesome1 wrote:I also noticed a gunshot coming from round the corner, and is that who I think it is firing?
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Is that Megatron?

Looks like. Of course, there are some things to consider.
1. Decepticon infighting
2. It's unclear what that is blowing up by Scorponok's arm
3. Maybe he was aiming for Optimus and his aim has improved even more than as of that boulder toss.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:20 am

Greetings Seibertronians! Following a recent sighting of the Wave 2 Battlemasters in Australia, there has now been a US sighting of the Target exclusive Decepticon Clones two pack.

The sighting was made by smf2045, over at fellow Transformers fan site, TFW2005. The clones are a repackage of the Titan's Returns molds. The last time these were issued one half of the Decepticon Clones was exclusive to the Siege on Cybertron boxset, while the other was in a two pack with one of the Autobot clones. In Japan, Takara Tomy redeco'd the clones to a more cartoon accurate color scheme and released the clones in their proper pairs. This is the first time since G1 that the Decepticon Clones have been sold in a set together.

Happy hunting everyone!

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by **Bombshell0001** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:16 pm

Found this at Glen Burnie MD Target 1 is left on the shelf .

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:23 pm

Well, Kapow and ID Toys have removed their listings for the Seeker two-pack pre-order (out of stock). Both still have the Clones though.

£26.97 - Kapow

£26.99 - ID Toys

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:36 pm

Dosen't surprise me. Megatron/Galvatron has always been at odds with Scorponok in pretty much every continuity. Any uneasy alliance usually breaks down quickly for a showdown of Leadership. Makes me hope the 3rd WFC line is more futuristic (focus on more 87'-90' Characters, as well as Victory etc...), and we can give Optimus and Megatron a well deserved rest.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:39 pm

The only time that wasn't the case was in The Rebirth. Wherein it was unclear if Scorponok had an identity of his own.

News Credits: 459 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:23 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The only time that wasn't the case was in The Rebirth. Wherein it was unclear if Scorponok had an identity of his own.

He did still bicker with Lord Zarak, who was the most important part of that version of Scorponok.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The only time that wasn't the case was in The Rebirth. Wherein it was unclear if Scorponok had an identity of his own.
He did still bicker with Lord Zarak, who was the most important part of that version of Scorponok.

Eeyup. And in fact, that was what they were doing at the end: arguing over who was in charge.

On top of that, infighting comes naturally to the Decepticons; it's kinda inherent in the "Power at any cost" ideology.

But I am amused at the possibility that Megatron was actually aiming for Optimus (who is, after all, in Scorpy's claw) and missed.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:14 pm

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, -WonkoTheSane-, has let us know that Takara Tomy have released new images of Earthrise Deluxe Class Arcee (with Cyberverse Deluxe Class Arcee posing as well) and Earthrise Deluxe Class Trailbreaker! These are being used to promote the toys for the Japanese releases. It should be noted that while Arcee will see a retail release in Japan, Trailbreaker is instead a Takara Tomy Mall exclusive, joining an ever growing amount of Earthrise that is exclusive.

For those in the rest of the world though, Earthrise Arcee is part of the Wave 2 Deluxes and Trailbreaker being part of a future wave.

Earthrise Arcee and Cyberverse Deluxe Arcee

Earthrise Trailbreaker

What do you think of these photos? Which Arcee looks better to you given the ascetic differences? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:17 pm

Still happy with my 2014 Arcee; thin-feeling plastic, yes, but she comes with more gear and she doesn’t partsform. If they did another character from the new one like the Paradron Medic or something I’d be down, but otherwise pass for me.

Happy with Trailbreaker, he’s going to look good with Hoist!

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:27 pm

Regardless of aesthetic differences, Cyberverse Arcee manages to be better than ER Arcee.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:30 pm

ER Arcee should have died on the drawing board. That needlessly unintegrated transformation... Ugh. All you had to do was give us "T30 Arcee but with ankle tilts and 5mm hands", HasTak. That or a headmaster version... Not a foolhardy attempt at downscaling the already-questionable MP design. Whoever let this filth proceed past the sketch stage should be demoted to copyboy. It's of course too late to axe the abominable waste of plastic and molds now.. maybe at least it'll get vandalized in stores instead of bought?

Trailbreaker is good though, looking forward to him.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:52 pm

I know it's been mentioned already ad nauseam since ER Arcee's reveal, but G1 Arcee really is just a BAD design that shouldn't still be getting use if this is what it results in. The IDW comics did multiple G1 Arcee designs that had actual kibble integration, and some even had actual Earth modes, Hasbro should either use those or just make Prime Arcee their "Evergreen" Arcee design.

Scorponok looks great, but I don't buy/have room for Titan figures, and I prefer a comic-sized Scorpy anyway.

Still looking forwards to Airwave and Alicon though!

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:04 pm

Yeah, and T30 Arcee's integration was also terrible. Earthrise is incrementally worse, but only just.

At the time I thought TR Arcee was an uninspired overuse of Blurr's mold, but now it's my favorite toy version of the character.

All that said, even with both T30 Arcee and TR Arcee, I'm getting ER Arcee anyway. I've been getting pretty much all of the ER releases, and I think she'll fit in well beside Siege Springer and the rest of the animated movie lineup, especially if that group gets filled out through Studio Series.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:05 pm

Her G1 design has been made into a decent toy before:

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It is perfectly possible. All they had to do was use the same integration tricks the version they already made used. That was all they needed to do. They've done it before.

But no. No, instead what they tried to do was downscale the MP design (which was already iffy) into a Deluxe. And predictably, it resulted in a trainwreck. Just like the THREE DIFFERENT TIMES they tried downscaling MP-01. You'd think they'd have learned, but apparently not.

And this doesn't even do anything useful (like, say, have a Titan Master head and seat) to make up for the clunk.

They should have known better. They should have done better. They could have done better. They knew how to do better.
And yet, we got this trash.

So AFAIC, ER Arcee's value is equivalent to that of an Armada Side Swipe that's been run over by a truck.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Yeah, and T30 Arcee's integration was also terrible. Earthrise is incrementally worse, but only just.

Oh, get real. "Actually integrates the chest and legs into the car" is leagues ahead of "Wears the entire car mode on the back". And T30 Arcee manages to put the unintegrated parts on the back far more compactly.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:12 pm

I'm disappointed that both Arcees have their head in one solid color. ER should have at least a pink face while CV should have a white face or a very pale pink.

I can predict that Deluxe Cyberverse Arcee will be the superior toy compared to the Earthrise.

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:31 pm

The only parts of her robot mode that are visible in car mode are the chest and the sides of her thighs, and I agree that's better than the ER one, and that the backpack is smaller. But in both T30 and ER, most of the car is stored on the back, I don't know why that provoked eye-rolling, but whatever, different people like different things.