Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:52 pm

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For what it's worth somebody on Facebook did a tear down of Scorponok and apparently the internals are the same as Omega Supreme.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -WonkoTheSane- » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:56 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:I noted that Megatron was firing on Scorponok back when we had the box reveal :-? I wonder what the angle is with it. Afterall according to the Japanese G1 timeline, Megs and Optimus did ally together for a while (the truce broke down in the lead up to the Japanese G2 release), megs became a good guy in the IDW stories, Transformers Prime had him renouncing evil at its end. I can't remember what happened with megs in the prime wars trilogy though, other than he was snarky as hell but wasn't the bad guy. Are we about to see a twist in this tale?


It would be so weird if the mandatory Megatron of the next line was an Autobot. :HEADHURTS:

Well there's plenty speculation that the next line will have a... Different sort of Megatron, of the purple dinosaur sort.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:14 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:24 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:48 pm

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Imagine if he's a more scientifically-accurate Tyrannosaurus?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby DMSL » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:40 pm

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Smokescreen looks cheap, those wheels...horrid, i think i will stick to my old CHUG Datsun brothers.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:52 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:Imagine if he's a more scientifically-accurate Tyrannosaurus?

a.k.a.

imagine if he's a badass purple feathered T-Rex

Nah, these are toys. Besides in another 30 years when scientists think they have still "more accurate" data for the appearance of Dinosaurs, people will complain then how inaccurate they appear now.

On another note. Remember way back in February when Target had a crazy BOGO free sale on mane Earthrise wave 2 and 3 voyagers and deluxe's? So where does anyone think wave 2 will appear first.

Well logically it appears they will show up in other places long before the U.S. But for U.S fans who wants to guess.... Target, Walmart, Amazon, Hasbro Pulse, or some other online retailer?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:55 pm

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o.supreme, the only thing stopping them from sculpting feathers onto a toy is show-accuracy. That and the fact that they might want to go with Transmetal Megs. Regular Megs has been done before, even if it was a while ago, plus aside from the MP his toys don't have major breakage issues. Unlike TM Megs' infamous waist.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Imagine if he's a more scientifically-accurate Tyrannosaurus?

a.k.a.

imagine if he's a badass purple feathered T-Rex
You know, WaywardInsecticon actually drew that.

DMSL wrote:Smokescreen looks cheap, those wheels...horrid, i think i will stick to my old CHUG Datsun brothers.
Aside from the visible snap pegs, these wheels look more like actual Datsun wheels They're not painted, but that's because other things have gobbled his paint allowance. The photos make the wheels look worse than they will in-hand, he's like 2-3 times his real size in the pics.

Consider also that ER Smokescreen will actually be properly distinct from Prowl and Bluestreak in altmode, unlike the Universe versions.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:31 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:o.supreme, the only thing stopping them from sculpting feathers onto a toy is show-accuracy.


I think you and I interpret things differently, which is fine. I never stated feathers couldn't be done. I'm just stating my opinion that I don't think it's necessary.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:30 pm

Maybe I missed the debate but id Siege and Earthrise are attempting scale, which one is more official at this point. Side by side it’s quite dramatically different. Other than ER Screamer’s beautiful jet mode. I do feel siege is more fun....
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:30 pm

DMSL wrote:Smokescreen looks cheap, those wheels...horrid, i think i will stick to my old CHUG Datsun brothers.

The Siege versions of the Datsuns and the Countachs are much better than the old Classics and Universe figures imho. I don't begrudge anybody for not wanting to buy everything over again, and I'm glad everyone likes different things, but I can't imagine preferring the earlier ones. WfC is everything I ever wanted from Generations.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:58 pm

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AcademyofDrX wrote:
DMSL wrote:Smokescreen looks cheap, those wheels...horrid, i think i will stick to my old CHUG Datsun brothers.

The Siege versions of the Datsuns and the Countachs are much better than the old Classics and Universe figures imho. I don't begrudge anybody for not wanting to buy everything over again, and I'm glad everyone likes different things, but I can't imagine preferring the earlier ones. WfC is everything I ever wanted from Generations.
IMO it's a tradeoff with the Datsuns. The Universe versions have more paint, altmode weapon storage, Prowl has an actual transparent red lightbar instead of the SIEGE toy's cheater version, and all of them come with the shoulder cannons since they're integrated. But they all turn into a bland modern car mode, the only distinction with said car mode is lightbar/no lightbar, and they have Alternators-style legs instead of G1-accurate legs.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:31 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
DMSL wrote:Smokescreen looks cheap, those wheels...horrid, i think i will stick to my old CHUG Datsun brothers.

The Siege versions of the Datsuns and the Countachs are much better than the old Classics and Universe figures imho. I don't begrudge anybody for not wanting to buy everything over again, and I'm glad everyone likes different things, but I can't imagine preferring the earlier ones. WfC is everything I ever wanted from Generations.
IMO it's a tradeoff with the Datsuns. The Universe versions have more paint, altmode weapon storage, Prowl has an actual transparent red lightbar instead of the SIEGE toy's cheater version, and all of them come with the shoulder cannons since they're integrated. But they all turn into a bland modern car mode, the only distinction with said car mode is lightbar/no lightbar, and they have Alternators-style legs instead of G1-accurate legs.

The paint deco is terrible, especially on Smokescreen, I could not care less about the lightbar, and the shoulder cannons are tiny and unlike their toy or cartoon counterparts.

I remember this was a big deal when Punch/Counterpunch came out, but I literally don't understand the appeal of weapons storage. I would much prefer weapons that can mount on the alt-mode, and I'm perfectly fine with baggies or bins to store weapons when they're not in bot mode. There's nothing wrong with people liking it, I literally can't imagine considering weapon storage as part of the overall value of a toy. I just can't understand it.

I'm G1 from youth, so obviously the toy and show accuracy is a big part of the appeal, but my favorite part of WfC, especially the '84/'85 group, if transforming. The Datsuns and Countachs have simple, intuitive, tactile, fun transformations that are head and shoulders above anything in the Classics era--except for the Seekers.

One of the reasons I'm not too upset double-dipping on Smokescreen is the engineering seems practically identical, so I know the new one will be fun. And at least with Prowl I'll be getting a new deco compared to Siege.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AutobotAlvaron » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:03 pm

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AutobotAlvaron wrote:Wow! Titan Scorponok looks GREAT!

:???: It seems like he's an all-new mold with no mold/ parts-sharing. Is that right? There were those who said he was a heavy re-mold of Omega Supreme.

I only wish he included his big orange rifle, his elevator, the other two double-cannons, & whatever city-mode bits Hasbro always leaves out due to budgetary restraints. Oh well, 3rd Party add-ons to the rescue, again! :lol:

I hope this mold gets a Black Zarak repaint/ remold. :P

Where did you hear that? I've never heard he was going to be a remold. The only titan to ever be a retool was Fortress Maximus.



I only meant that I hoped a Black Zarak got made from this mold. Since he has a different head & face, wouldn't that mean he NEEDS a re-mold or altogether new head-bot? :???:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AutobotAlvaron » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:15 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:For what it's worth somebody on Facebook did a tear down of Scorponok and apparently the internals are the same as Omega Supreme.



With Titan Fort Max, the re-use of Metroplex parts is pretty obvious. I am curious, could you detail what "internals" Scorponok shares with Omega? Is it only stuff like ratchets, springs, & screws, or is any molded plastic carried over? Just looking at photos, it is hard to tell. :???:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:20 pm

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AutobotAlvaron wrote:
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AutobotAlvaron wrote:Wow! Titan Scorponok looks GREAT!

:???: It seems like he's an all-new mold with no mold/ parts-sharing. Is that right? There were those who said he was a heavy re-mold of Omega Supreme.

I only wish he included his big orange rifle, his elevator, the other two double-cannons, & whatever city-mode bits Hasbro always leaves out due to budgetary restraints. Oh well, 3rd Party add-ons to the rescue, again! :lol:

I hope this mold gets a Black Zarak repaint/ remold. :P

Where did you hear that? I've never heard he was going to be a remold. The only titan to ever be a retool was Fortress Maximus.



I only meant that I hoped a Black Zarak got made from this mold. Since he has a different head & face, wouldn't that mean he NEEDS a re-mold or altogether new head-bot? :???:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AutobotAlvaron » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:28 pm

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Oh, sorry about that. Guys on FaceBook speculated that since their sizes were similar that Scorponok would likely be a heavy re-tool of Omega Supreme, like Fort Max & Metroplex were. I passed on Fort Max, because he seemed too similar & cheated a bit much for my liking. I have a Carrobots Brave Max, complete with Master Sword & both large guns, so I am satisfied with that. I want both Omega & Scorpy, but I've been wondering about their molds, since I've read contradicting things about them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:35 pm

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AutobotAlvaron wrote:Oh, sorry about that. Guys on FaceBook speculated that since their sizes were similar that Scorponok would likely be a heavy re-tool of Omega Supreme, like Fort Max & Metroplex were. I passed on Fort Max, because he seemed too similar & cheated a bit much for my liking. I have a Carrobots Brave Max, complete with Master Sword & both large guns, so I am satisfied with that. I want both Omega & Scorpy, but I've been wondering about their molds, since I've read contradicting things about them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:48 am

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AutobotAlvaron wrote:Oh, sorry about that. Guys on FaceBook speculated that since their sizes were similar that Scorponok would likely be a heavy re-tool of Omega Supreme, like Fort Max & Metroplex were. I passed on Fort Max, because he seemed too similar & cheated a bit much for my liking. I have a Carrobots Brave Max, complete with Master Sword & both large guns, so I am satisfied with that. I want both Omega & Scorpy, but I've been wondering about their molds, since I've read contradicting things about them.

No, I should have made my post clearer :) But, yeah I don't see how Scorp could be a remold given the extreme differences, like how Omega transforms for one thing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:05 am

Motto: "Why are Beast Hunters Ultimate/Dragon Attack Optimus' sword and shield so hard to find?"
It's possible he recycles some of the heavy ratchet joints from Omega, that that's what Chuckdawg meant by internals.

Speaking of heavy ratchet joints, I wonder what would be a good source for them... I have designs on kitbashing Fort Max's legs, and it's either heavy ratchets or swivels that bolt and unbolt.

LeAwesome1 wrote:Got some more pictures of the box as requested, you can see Bumblebee and Doubledealer on there
So you can. Of course, Bee's appearance doesn't necessarily mean he'll look like that if/when he gets a toy. I mean, one of the coneheads on Sky Lynx's box looked like the G1 toy.

LeAwesome1 wrote:I also noticed a gunshot coming from round the corner, and is that who I think it is firing?
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Is that Megatron? :shock:
Looks like. Of course, there are some things to consider.
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Transformers Earthrise Target Exclusive Decepticon Clones Two Pack Found At US Retail

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:20 am

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Greetings Seibertronians! Following a recent sighting of the Wave 2 Battlemasters in Australia, there has now been a US sighting of the Target exclusive Decepticon Clones two pack.

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The sighting was made by smf2045, over at fellow Transformers fan site, TFW2005. The clones are a repackage of the Titan's Returns molds. The last time these were issued one half of the Decepticon Clones was exclusive to the Siege on Cybertron boxset, while the other was in a two pack with one of the Autobot clones. In Japan, Takara Tomy redeco'd the clones to a more cartoon accurate color scheme and released the clones in their proper pairs. This is the first time since G1 that the Decepticon Clones have been sold in a set together.

Happy hunting everyone!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Bombshell0001 » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:16 pm

Found this at Glen Burnie MD Target 1 is left on the shelf .
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:23 pm

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Well, Kapow and ID Toys have removed their listings for the Seeker two-pack pre-order (out of stock). Both still have the Clones though.

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