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by **Kup98ss** » Sat May 30, 2020 8:46 pm

Hasbro finally made a transformer I want to buy. If I can make it work with my masterpiece collection I'll buy it.

News Credits: 4853 · by **william-james88** » Sat May 30, 2020 9:38 pm

We already knew Earthrise would include a new Smokescreen and while it could be assumed that we would get the rest of the Datsuns in this new Earthrise mode, it always helps to get some confirmation. Well, we now know the product code for the upcoming Bluestreak toy. Of course, until we see the images or more listings, it may be something else, but logic points toward this simply being Earthrise Bluestreak, which we all guessed was coming. You can see the item number in the tab for the following link: https://www.ideeundspiel.com/p/tra-wfc- ... ERE74635L0

TRA WFC Bluestreak
Hasbro product number: E74635L0

For those wondering, Siege Bluestreak was E8291.

The same site also had the product numbers for the following two listings:

Ironhide and Prowl 2 pack:E74615L0

Alternate Universe Optimus Prime:E74625L0

This was found by fellow Seibertronian JT Prime.

by **Thunderboltprime** » Sat May 30, 2020 9:53 pm

Interesting, but what I’m curious about is what the Alternative Universe Prime is. I think from some leaked images that it could be a remold of the Siege Ultra Magnus/Galaxy Upgrade Mold, but what Prime fits the mold the best?

News Credits: 7 · by **Roadbuster** » Sat May 30, 2020 9:55 pm

Might as well just throw the retools into two-packs. Pair Ratchet with Red Alert, Mirage with Hound, and make Sideswipe solo with his proper equipment. But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Sat May 30, 2020 9:57 pm

I really don't want this set to be scalped to the max, especially when there's been a frustrating lack of Siege Skywarp but Thundercracker and Starscream are still around.

by **Thunderboltprime** » Sat May 30, 2020 9:58 pm

Possibly Armada, but I thought the leaked images didn’t exactly look like the prototype of Armada that was shown with Star Convoy? I could just be remembering it wrong

News Credits: 7 · by **Roadbuster** » Sat May 30, 2020 9:58 pm

Quantum Surge wrote:I really don't want this set to be scalped to the max, especially when there's been a frustrating lack of Siege Skywarp but Thundercracker and Starscream are still around.

I think he is still available over Amazon. Got mine shortly after it came out.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:03 pm

Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.

The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.

by **Skritz** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:10 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.

You know, I could totally see RiD2001 Optimus as a massive retool/shared engineering from Doubledealer, assuming he went from vehicle mode to super mode directly.

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:11 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.

Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.

by **Skritz** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:17 pm

Tuned Agent wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.

Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.

Man, it would suck but its bad enough to sound plausible.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:20 pm

Skritz wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.

Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.

Man, it would suck but its bad enough to sound plausible.

My prediction is that Sleepy Prime was supposed to be the SDCC exclusive that now has to be released online for obvious reasons. Kind of like how the Reflector 3-pack was supposed to be the Hascon 2019 exclusive, but ended up being offered as a regular online exclusive because of Hascon's cancellation.

by **Skritz** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:25 pm

I hope so but I'm honestly expecting the worst out of this 'alt universe' Optimus.

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:43 pm

I think I actually prefer the CW version to the ER version, based on the pictures. The ER one is more versatile as an individual figure, but the CW version has the combiner gimmick going for it. Plus, I never really liked Sky Lynx' design....

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat May 30, 2020 10:59 pm

Tuned Agent wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.

Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.

That one is said to be part of Selects rather than Earthrise proper.

Though, if it were the case, there is one semi-obscure precedent for a dead G1 Prime being an alternate universe variant:

by **SuperMario** » Sat May 30, 2020 11:27 pm

It's hard for me to even believe that there's a chance we get both Scorponok and Unicron in the same year!

News Credits: 23 · by **aronjlove** » Sat May 30, 2020 11:41 pm

Lol, nevermind

Do the email alerts sometimes stop? I haven't had any notifications about this thread today.

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Sun May 31, 2020 12:58 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Roadbuster wrote:But what really intrigues me is this Alternate Universe Prime. We've gotten the TF Cybertron one. My guess is Armada Prime.
The most widespread current theories are either Shattered Glass or RiD 2001/Car Robots.

Could it be the "sleep mode" Prime? Granted, it would be odd to call it an "alternate universe" Prime, but I guess stranger things have happened.
That one is said to be part of Selects rather than Earthrise proper.

Though, if it were the case, there is one semi-obscure precedent for a dead G1 Prime being an alternate universe variant:

Ah, that makes more sense.

Just a thought, but what if the alternate universe Prime is an IDW version? It wouldn't stand out on the shelves as significantly different from the standard ER Optimus, but I have a hard time imagining another new leader mold in ER (especially for something non G1), and that would be a lot easier to retool from an existing mold than, say, RID Prime.

Though I guess that's why Shattered Glass Prime makes sense too. Plus it would stand out more. You know what, it's probably Shattered Glass Prime...

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Sun May 31, 2020 1:37 am

They could do Fire Convoy using the Grapple mold

by **Jeddostotle7** » Sun May 31, 2020 4:25 am

IIRC the whole basis of the RID2001/Car Robots Optimus rumor was that a source who leaked multiple later-corroborated upcoming figures said that one upcoming figure would be a RID2001/Car Robots update a lot of people wanted, specifically with a battle station mode. So, if we do get it, it's probably not gonna be something like just a redeco/retool of Grapple.

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Sun May 31, 2020 5:03 am

It would be so badass if :HASBRO:

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decided to release possible Bluestreak with paint like CW figure....'nuff said! :VEHI:

by **Skritz** » Sun May 31, 2020 8:27 am

Of course if we do get Fire Convoy, people will bitch he's smaller and not as good as the original and nobody will buy him, sending HasTak (and John Warden) the message that they are correct in that only 1984-85 GEEWUN is what sells. >:oP

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun May 31, 2020 8:38 am

Skritz wrote:Of course if we do get Fire Convoy, people will bitch he's smaller and not as good as the original and nobody will buy him, sending HasTak (and John Warden) the message that they are correct in that only 1984-85 GEEWUN is what sells.

The problem is no one should be forced to buy an inferior toy, something that they should also be aware of. So it's really a no win - situation. Depending on your point of view of course.

What would work more in their favour is if they launched a more ambitious reissue line that expanded past just the first two years of G1

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Sun May 31, 2020 8:41 am

Skritz wrote:Of course if we do get Fire Convoy, people will bitch he's smaller and not as good as the original and nobody will buy him, sending HasTak (and John Warden) the message that they are correct in that only 1984-85 GEEWUN is what sells.

And via karma, you will deserve it.

However, I would buy Fire Convoy in a heartbeat. My Car Robots collection (which had everything except Brave Maximus - because at the time I had a Fortress Maximus) was sacrificed for my Masterpiece collection and, well...bills.

So, even if it failed and people complained (and they will, no matter what happens), it wouldn't fail because of me.

ZeroWolf wrote:The problem is no one should be forced to buy an inferior toy, something that they should also be aware of. So it's really a no win - situation. Depending on your point of view of course.

What would work more in their favour is if they launched a more ambitious reissue line that expanded past just the first two years of G1

They already did it. In 2001 they did a line called "Robots in Disguise" that had inferior plastic and rubber compared to the Takara releases. I know, because I had them. It's my one collection where I had robot and vehicle modes displayed.

EARTHRISE (so as not to derail) Bluestreak is gonna be lit.