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News Credits: 3 · by **SGMLordMirage** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:21 am

That’s awesome on the find. I am alittle on the fence about getting him myself. Not that I don’t want him but as you said, Siege Prime is a good figure. I think with me it will come down to, do I really need him. That Is the urge when you collect, at some point you have to be able to pass on something even if you like it and this maybe one of those times.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:37 am

So, if I'm remembering correctly, the Amazon leaks contained Arcee, Alicon, Airwave, Snapdragon, Megatron (with a different release date), and Doubledealer? Hopefully we end up seeing all of those guys revealed at NYTF, plus a few others. Also, I just noticed that most of the wave (assuming they're the same wave) are Decepticons, or Mercenaries with one Autobot. Kinda like the opposite of how Siege's wave 2 went :lol:

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:36 pm

SGMLordMirage wrote:That’s awesome on the find. I am alittle on the fence about getting him myself. Not that I don’t want him but as you said, Siege Prime is a good figure. I think with me it will come down to, do I really need him. That Is the urge when you collect, at some point you have to be able to pass on something even if you like it and this maybe one of those times.

Totally feel you on that SGM (sir!)
I was wavering because money is tight, have Primes (like so many Primes), but my wife said you better get that, it all just fit the moment, the mood just was right. As a fellow collector I know you know what I mean :lol:

Honestly I’m finding more and more why this was worth it. First trailer like his in this scale, first Voyager with a Matrix I think, opening hands, even more G1 accurate. It’s like a Voyager MP. Takes elements from the brilliant BB Prime which I love.

I’m holding out hope for a Weaponizer Roller ;)^

News Credits: 3 · by **SGMLordMirage** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:49 pm

@Stargrave, nice touch after my rank, thank you!

See, my wife is the same way. We can be out in the store and if it is the only one, she is like” better get it, not sure when it will be available”. That’s how I have managed to get some of mine. It could be that way for ER Prime but definitely cannot wait to find him in a store and get that “in person” look of him.

The weaponizer Roller would be a nice touch for sure!

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:29 pm

Did we get details on that Megatron leak or just the name and size class?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:58 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Did we get details on that Megatron leak or just the name and size class?

Yeah no details about alt mode yet...

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:36 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Did we get details on that Megatron leak or just the name and size class?

Yeah no details about alt mode yet...

Alright. I'm hoping for "submarine" personally. A shame he's not a Leader-class so that he could be a "submarine" with detachable modules.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:39 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Did we get details on that Megatron leak or just the name and size class?

Yeah no details about alt mode yet...
Alright. I'm hoping for "submarine" personally. A shame he's not a Leader-class so that he could be a "submarine" with detachable modules.

Like a "sonar sensor scope", a "torpedo cannon", and an "extended docking anchor"?

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:45 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Did we get details on that Megatron leak or just the name and size class?

Yeah no details about alt mode yet...
Alright. I'm hoping for "submarine" personally. A shame he's not a Leader-class so that he could be a "submarine" with detachable modules.
Like a "sonar sensor scope", a "torpedo cannon", and an "extended docking anchor"?

I... I kinda want a submarine Megatron now, or any transformer like that.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:49 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Did we get details on that Megatron leak or just the name and size class?

Yeah no details about alt mode yet...
Alright. I'm hoping for "submarine" personally. A shame he's not a Leader-class so that he could be a "submarine" with detachable modules.
Like a "sonar sensor scope", a "torpedo cannon", and an "extended docking anchor"?

I... I kinda want a submarine Megatron now, or any transformer like that.

In other words:

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:49 pm

Total jet pack mode like when he bummed Sideswipe’s.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:03 pm

That's awesome Stargrave!

I really hope that gun megs is consigned to the rubbish bin of history. Let's give Megs a visual makeover in the style of Cybertron or Energon, or even better, Animated. Though I suppose there could be a compromise if the gun mode was hidden within the Transformation.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:18 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:That's awesome Stargrave!

I really hope that gun megs is consigned to the rubbish bin of history. Let's give Megs a visual makeover in the style of Cybertron or Energon, or even better, Animated. Though I suppose there could be a compromise if the gun mode was hidden within the Transformation.

Submarine, dear. Submarine

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:27 pm

Well, SIEGE already gave us Megs as a tank.

I would NEVER want to see a handgun-based Megatron in any non-G1 line. But for this, I would like to see a vehicle shaped suspiciously like a Walther P38, because a Walther P38 iswhat G1 Megs turned into back in the show this is based on. It was mocked even at the time, but there's no changing it. Such is G1's cross to bear.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:34 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, SIEGE already gave us Megs as a tank.

I would NEVER want to see a handgun-based Megatron in any non-G1 line. But for this, I would like to see a vehicle shaped suspiciously like a Walther P38, because a Walther P38 iswhat G1 Megs turned into back in the show this is based on. It was mocked even at the time, but there's no changing it. Such is G1's cross to bear.

See that's something Shockwave had a much easier job of, a futuristic space gun is a lot easier to call a spaceship then a submarine that would have to pull double duty as a Walther P38 look alike (question, would they have to get a licence from the gun manufacturer to do it properly? Like getting BMW on board to do a VW Bee)

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:38 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, SIEGE already gave us Megs as a tank.

I would NEVER want to see a handgun-based Megatron in any non-G1 line. But for this, I would like to see a vehicle shaped suspiciously like a Walther P38, because a Walther P38 iswhat G1 Megs turned into back in the show this is based on. It was mocked even at the time, but there's no changing it. Such is G1's cross to bear.

See that's something Shockwave had a much easier job of, a futuristic space gun is a lot easier to call a spaceship then a submarine that would have to pull double duty as a Walther P38 look alike (question, would they have to get a licence from the gun manufacturer to do it properly? Like getting BMW on board to do a VW Bee)

They didn't have to for the RtS Legends one:

Transformers Reveal The Shield Megatron Gallery

Only needed an orange cap on the barrel.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:41 pm

I always forget about that megs :-?

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:47 pm

Sure as Prime’s a truck, even though submarine gun would be rad, Megatron will totally be a tank. I feel it in my cyberguts.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:52 pm

Earthrise Megatron:

News Credits: 3 · by **SGMLordMirage** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:02 pm

Priceless, Megatron in a 55 Caddy!

by **Jeddostotle7** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:06 pm

I think this Earth Mode Megatron will most likely be either a Cybertron version, to go with Siege Galaxy Upgrade Optimus, or G2 green-and-purple to give that one an update and take advantage of the Earth vehicle modes theme to give it a more proper tank mode.

Also, does anyone know if having Target's in-store system lookup an Earthrise Deluxe DPCI would bring up Siege figures as well? Are they considered the same assortment like that in the system? Cuz I just earlier was in Target and asked a employee to lookup Wheeljack's DPCI, it said there were 11 in the back, he went back to fetch some (I asked specifically for 2 Wheeljacks to pick between and 1 Ironworks), and it turned out it was all Siege Deluxes, so he just brought out some of those.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:13 pm

Oof, so Arcee is just going to be straight-up G1 Arcee again? If that's the case, I'm with Sentinel in terms of disappointment/excitement levels. Alicon is still nothing but exciting though, he's gonna be fun.

Also, where did this idea that the movie crew were Eath vehicles come from, exactly? I've never actually seen it said anywhere other than these boards, and I don't buy for a second that Blurr and Arcee's alt modes aren't Cybertronian. Hot Rod, sure, Springer and Kup, maaaybe, but Blurr and Arcee are floating Cybertronian shape vehicles like the pilot episode and I've seen nothing so far that's convinced me otherwise.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:21 pm

Jeddostotle7 wrote:I think this Earth Mode Megatron will most likely be either a Cybertron version, to go with Siege Galaxy Upgrade Optimus, or G2 green-and-purple to give that one an update and take advantage of the Earth vehicle modes theme to give it a more proper tank mode.

I can tell you right now that the first possibility you suggested doesn't work. The same leak that revealed Earthrise Megatron, revealed him as a Voyager. That would be no good as a match for Galaxy Upgrade Optimus.

The second thing you suggested is also highly unlikely, given the core retail line mainly focusing on the G1 cartoon.

I think he's most likely going to be either "Bog standard Earth tank in black and gray with red accents" or "Vehicle with an aftcastle made from his legs collapsing and tucking together, and a prow that ends up offset on his back in robot mode". The former is somewhat more probable, but I'm hopeful for the latter.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Also, where did this idea that the movie crew were Eath vehicles come from, exactly? I've never actually seen it said anywhere other than these boards, and I don't buy for a second that Blurr and Arcee's alt modes aren't Cybertronian. Hot Rod, sure, Springer and Kup, maaaybe, but Blurr and Arcee are floating Cybertronian shape vehicles like the pilot episode and I've seen nothing so far that's convinced me otherwise.

Then clearly you've never seen Arcee in the cartoon anyway, because ARCEE HAS VISIBLE FREAKING TIRES!

The idea comes from Floro Dery, the man who designed them. Having trouble tracking down the specific source on it.

Oh, and by the way, the pilot episode Cybertronian vehicle modes don't actually float. Did you forget Bumblebee having to ride inside Wheeljack because of getting a tire shot off?

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:52 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:Also, where did this idea that the movie crew were Eath vehicles come from, exactly? I've never actually seen it said anywhere other than these boards, and I don't buy for a second that Blurr and Arcee's alt modes aren't Cybertronian. Hot Rod, sure, Springer and Kup, maaaybe, but Blurr and Arcee are floating Cybertronian shape vehicles like the pilot episode and I've seen nothing so far that's convinced me otherwise.
Then clearly you've never seen Arcee in the cartoon anyway, because ARCEE HAS VISIBLE FREAKING TIRES!

The idea comes from Floro Dery, the man who designed them. Having trouble tracking down the specific source on it.

Oh, and by the way, the pilot episode Cybertronian vehicle modes don't actually float. Did you forget Bumblebee having to ride inside Wheeljack because of getting a tire shot off?

Hey man, calm down, it was a simple question. G1 happened before I was born, so yeah, I did forget, and yes I have seen Arcee in the show before but I haven't seen the show in years, since I saw it for the first time on The Hub, so I didn't remember her having tires. Shame the source is missing, but I guess I'll take your word on it.

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:58 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:I think this Earth Mode Megatron will most likely be either a Cybertron version, to go with Siege Galaxy Upgrade Optimus, or G2 green-and-purple to give that one an update and take advantage of the Earth vehicle modes theme to give it a more proper tank mode.
I can tell you right now that the first possibility you suggested doesn't work. The same leak that revealed Earthrise Megatron, revealed him as a Voyager. That would be no good as a match for Galaxy Upgrade Optimus.

The second thing you suggested is also highly unlikely, given the core retail line mainly focusing on the G1 cartoon.

I think he's most likely going to be either "Bog standard Earth tank in black and gray with red accents" or "Vehicle with an aftcastle made from his legs collapsing and tucking together, and a prow that ends up offset on his back in robot mode". The former is somewhat more probable, but I'm hopeful for the latter.

There is another reason that it's unlikely this will be Cybertron Megatron: ER Megatron will almost certainly be a new mold. While we did get a couple of non-G1 homages in Siege, it was always as a retool of another G1-based figure. I think the only reason we got Galaxy Upgrade OP and Hot Shot is because HasTak needed a way to re-use those molds, and because they probably wanted a leader class Optimus on the shelves. Without a logical mold to use as a base, I don't think we should expect Cybertron Megs anytime soon.