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Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:23 am

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Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:25 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.


Exactly.
He look good in both modes, but it's a bad limb and he's not fun to handle at all.


Oddly enough his repaint Stepper (or is it Ricochet?) feel slightly better and more stable. However it could just be I got a real stinker of a Jazz that is so floppy and unable to stick together in any mode that his repaint feels good by comparison purely because it isn't as much of a piece of ****.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:26 am

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At least if they screw up Jazz he's already got some decent figures.

My thoughts on my recent earthrise lot:

Hoists arms underneath the truck haven't bothered me as much in hand, they kind of look like suspension. If he had his g1 toys fists even more so as they would look like springs of some kind. He feels like he's missing some transformation that would have hidden them. Bonus points to the figure for having some mechanical detail/plastic when ankle tilting. Unlike a lot of other wfc with ankle tilts he doesn't look like a mma fighter whose kick has gone horribly wrong.

Ironworks yellow paint gives it a battle damage effect, but if it wasn't for that aesthetic it would look like an airfix model that's had the wrong finish paint applied to it. I want to like it but none of his modes are convincing.

Cliff jumper obviously didn't follow the none essential travel rules and got covid feet off of other bots like seaspray and mp bee. Other than his boat feet the jagged edge of the windscreen in bot mode is kinda an eyesore. Maybe the other uses for the mold that don't use light blue plastic won't be as noticeable. The legs are done well and he doesn't feel out of place size wise with cw/tr legends.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:28 am

Honestly I don't think Jazz can be easily 'screwed up', as his G1 toy is basic as hell carformer stuff. My theory is POTP Jazz was a pretool of somebody else and/or an abandoned alternate CW car former engineering, such as an abandoned Stunticon design or some other car limb they dug back up to fill out the line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:34 am

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Skritz wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.


Exactly.
He look good in both modes, but it's a bad limb and he's not fun to handle at all.


Oddly enough his repaint Stepper (or is it Ricochet?) feel slightly better and more stable. However it could just be I got a real stinker of a Jazz that is so floppy and unable to stick together in any mode that his repaint feels good by comparison purely because it isn't as much of a piece of ****.


Mine is floppy when transforming. It's a pain to put him in bot or car mode, but once I'm there, he stay in place. My friend bought Select Stepper because he's such a Combiner nerd. His Stepper feel the exact same way as my Jazz.

Still, the worst Jazz ever is definitely WFC Jazz. PotP is divine compared to it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:15 am

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Stargrave wrote:This part?

Yeah. That's the part.
That ain't Jazz.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:23 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Stargrave wrote:This part?

Yeah. That's the part.
That ain't Jazz.

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The helmet's all wrong.

Seemed to me it wasn't exactly clear, just a visor, but maybe. I need to get a Sky Lynx to be sure. :-D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Stormtalon » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:14 am


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:12 am

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PotP Jazz was OK, not groundbreaking, but still cool. He's a combiner limb for my Sky Reign, and i think he works well as an arm, has a really nice silhouette to him. But I would welcome a new one.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Jun 08, 2020 3:17 pm

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Have we head any news about any new potential Micromasters? Considering their small stature, I'm sort of surprised that we haven't had any leaks/factory samples that were "borrowed" for reviews. I feel like they'd be much easier to get a hold of, especially compared to Scorpinok
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:08 pm

I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:55 pm

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Skritz wrote:I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.

Seriously, mini-cons and Micromasters are my big weakness. I can't remember the little guys' names, but I just love how small they are :lol: I didn't really get into the Titan Masters, but I rather enjoyed the Prime Masters as a neat little homage to Pretenders. They started doing Micromaster bases in Earthrise, so I'm hoping in the next part they might start doing Micromaster Transports
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:58 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.

Seriously, mini-cons and Micromasters are my big weakness. I can't remember the little guys' names, but I just love how small they are :lol: I didn't really get into the Titan Masters, but I rather enjoyed the Prime Masters as a neat little homage to Pretenders. They started doing Micromaster bases in Earthrise, so I'm hoping in the next part they might start doing Micromaster Transports


I'm hoping the transport are Deluxe or bigger and got an added robot mode so we can have the little micromaster lads inside an exo suit.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:02 pm

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Skritz wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:I hope that Micromaster and associated gimmicks continue next trilogy. In between casettes, micromasters, something-masters and Mini Con the franchise always had a place for little-dudes-who-are-part-of-a-gimmick.

Seriously, mini-cons and Micromasters are my big weakness. I can't remember the little guys' names, but I just love how small they are :lol: I didn't really get into the Titan Masters, but I rather enjoyed the Prime Masters as a neat little homage to Pretenders. They started doing Micromaster bases in Earthrise, so I'm hoping in the next part they might start doing Micromaster Transports


I'm hoping the transport are Deluxe or bigger and got an added robot mode so we can have the little micromaster lads inside an exo suit.

I could see that being a good way to bring in a Cybertron Menasor update because his original figure had a gimmick like that, though I can't remember how well that worked out
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:19 pm

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Skritz wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Skritz wrote:POTP Jazz is a floppy mess of thin plastic.


Exactly.
He look good in both modes, but it's a bad limb and he's not fun to handle at all.


Oddly enough his repaint Stepper (or is it Ricochet?) feel slightly better and more stable. However it could just be I got a real stinker of a Jazz that is so floppy and unable to stick together in any mode that his repaint feels good by comparison purely because it isn't as much of a piece of ****.


I'm actually the opposite. Granted, Jazz isn't solid and sturdy, but he holds together well in robot and car mode. My Ricochet, however, IS a floppy mess, and feels cheaper than Jazz.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:29 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:I'm actually the opposite. Granted, Jazz isn't solid and sturdy, but he holds together well in robot and car mode. My Ricochet, however, IS a floppy mess, and feels cheaper than Jazz.


Look like a "head or tail" scenario for that mold.

Having a Jazz with the current WFC trilogy engineering and quality would be really welcome. Seriously, I've yet to hear about a single true stinker in the current lines. There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:31 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Bounti76 wrote:I'm actually the opposite. Granted, Jazz isn't solid and sturdy, but he holds together well in robot and car mode. My Ricochet, however, IS a floppy mess, and feels cheaper than Jazz.


Look like a "head or tail" scenario for that mold.

Having a Jazz with the current WFC trilogy engineering and quality would be really welcome. Seriously, I've yet to hear about a single true stinker in the current lines. There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.
Would he have to be his own new mold, or could he be a retooled Smokescreen, perhaps?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:39 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Would he have to be his own new mold, or could he be a retooled Smokescreen, perhaps?


Jazz should be his own new mold, of course. Smokescreen is a Datsun Bro so his mold will/can be milked enough with Prowl, Streak, and Barricade.

Then they could make a Select Stepper 2.0 who will not be a floppy mess.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:50 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:39 am

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Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

Emerje


Can't tell about Grapple because I don't have him. But Starscream? First time I heard about that. Unless one use Starscream as a ballerina, how can this happen? And maybe your Astrotrain was a dud because mine is solid.

It's not like the Titan Return / TLK times where I had a part missing or misassembled every 3 figures I bought. That was when they moved their production to Vietnam. It took time to iron out the bugs but at least we are there.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:25 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

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Can't tell about Grapple because I don't have him. But Starscream? First time I heard about that. Unless one use Starscream as a ballerina, how can this happen? And maybe your Astrotrain was a dud because mine is solid.

It's not like the Titan Return / TLK times where I had a part missing or misassembled every 3 figures I bought. That was when they moved their production to Vietnam. It took time to iron out the bugs but at least we are there.

You guys are lucky, the first 4 earthrise figures I bought all had defects; o/p had a blown out shoulder, the pegs on grapple, wheeljack had a glued thigh, and ironworks' ramp hinge broke first time I transformed him
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:39 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:There's also rarely any mentions of QC issues. It's pretty damn amazing.

Aside from the broken pegs on Grapple by design, reports of cracked crotches on Starscream, and my personal issue with Astrotrain having rag doll knees.

Emerje


Can't tell about Grapple because I don't have him. But Starscream? First time I heard about that. Unless one use Starscream as a ballerina, how can this happen? And maybe your Astrotrain was a dud because mine is solid.

It's not like the Titan Return / TLK times where I had a part missing or misassembled every 3 figures I bought. That was when they moved their production to Vietnam. It took time to iron out the bugs but at least we are there.

You guys are lucky, the first 4 earthrise figures I bought all had defects; o/p had a blown out shoulder, the pegs on grapple, wheeljack had a glued thigh, and ironworks' ramp hinge broke first time I transformed him

That's horrible. Makes me feel lucky.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:42 pm

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That totally got me too I’ve had that with other lines like that but thank god not this line. Man, Ironworks too he’s way fun maybe the most fun and definitely the most versatile that’s a danged shame I’m sorry. I encourage you to keep trying.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:46 pm

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Avoiding overquoting about the QC subject, maybe all my QC bad luck have been spent in 2017 and that's why I had no problem so far in Siege and Earthrise.
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