The Energon Pub

[Ultra Markus]

Man Trypticon is too short. Oh well.

More like Metroplex was always too tall.

yeah i always thought trypicon was either too short next to metroplex or metroplex was too tall compared to trypticon

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[Sabrblade]

Man Trypticon is too short. Oh well.

More like Metroplex was always too tall.

yeah i always thought trypicon was either too short next to metroplex or metroplex was too tall compared to trypticon

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The only reason they made Metroplex's Titan toy so tall was to make it surpass G1 Fort Max in height so that it could be the new "tallest TF EVAR!"... only for Titan class Fort Max to take back that title a mere three years later, and which will be claimed anew by Planet class Unicron next year.

And the result of making Metroplex that tall was a Metroplex who was too skinny (G1 Metroplex was CHUNKY!) and too weak in the hips. Had the toy been just a bit shorter, then some of the mass that went into his height could have instead been used to better his proportions and stability.

[Ultra Markus]

Man Trypticon is too short. Oh well.

More like Metroplex was always too tall.

yeah i always thought trypicon was either too short next to metroplex or metroplex was too tall compared to trypticon

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The only reason they made Metroplex's Titan toy so tall was to make it surpass G1 Fort Max in height so that it could be the new "tallest TF EVAR!"... only for Titan class Fort Max to take back that title a mere three years later, and which will be claimed anew by Planet class Unicron next year.

And the result of making Metroplex that tall was a Metroplex who was too skinny (G1 Metroplex was CHUNKY!) and too weak in the hips. Had the toy been just a bit shorter, then some of the mass that went into his height could have instead been used to better his proportions and stability.

yeah they could have done a better job all around
the one thing that bothered me the most was his ramp in city mode it was way too short

[-Kanrabat-]

I wonder if we will see a Titan Metroplex 2.0 eventually?

Because seriously, the fact that he's so thin and tall affect the base mode as well, where it's just the bot sitting down. A chunkier bot like Omega Supreme could result in a much better city mode.

[Rodimus Prime]

I hope we see an updated Metroplex. Not just a straight reissue, but a reworked, more proportionate figure. Maybe a Titan version of the G1 figure?

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I hope we see an updated Metroplex. Not just a straight reissue, but a reworked, more proportionate figure. Maybe a Titan version of the G1 figure?

Funny you say that, because transformation-wise that's what T30 Metroplex largely is, despite the WFC aesthetic. Could definitely use base connectors and Combiner Wars limb sockets though. And shorter thighs to bring him more in line with the original's proportions.

[ZeroWolf]

I hope we see an updated Metroplex. Not just a straight reissue, but a reworked, more proportionate figure. Maybe a Titan version of the G1 figure?

Hasn't Warden said he'd love a crack at Metroplex? If he were to do it, he'd make sure that metro scaled better to tryp and looked more like his G1 self. Plus I think it is the bots turn for titan class again next year...

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Well IMO Scorponok is the best-looking Titan yet, so I think he's worth the preorder price. I just hope he doesn't turn out to be hollow everywhere like Metroplex and be really light. But it doesn't seem to be the case.

Agreed. But then I always thought Scorponok looked the best visually out of the original four designs, too. It is quite annoying that it took the entire line of City Bots before they stopped giving us sticker sheets and just did the decal work themselves, as normal.

[blackeyedprime]

I doubt we will see a new metroplex any time soon with the Japanese re-release not being that long back but I would probably buy a more g1 looking bot as long as it had the same if not more features than the original toy. Omegas the only titan I haven't really wanted, orig toy is decent and the platinum yots fits with titans return stuff so if I had the money or choice platinum would win out as I have the third party upgrade kit already.

At least with sdcc Fort max the stickers were already factory applied.

[Gauntlet101010]

Man Trypticon is too short. Oh well.

More like Metroplex was always too tall.

He's the shortest titan in that picture. I get that it's due to mass. Still too short, though.

[Sabrblade]

Fasttrack's spear mode! Courtesy of a Hasbro Pulse email.

[Sentinel_Primal]

That... Actually looks pretty good. I wonder if it might be configurable into a giant cannon though

[Sabrblade]

Man Trypticon is too short. Oh well.

More like Metroplex was always too tall.

He's the shortest titan in that picture. I get that it's due to mass. Still too short, though.

Again, it's because Metroplex was made too tall. His height set an impossible standard for Trypticon's height to measure up to. Had Metroplex been a bit shorter, while keeping the same amount of mass by distributing better throughout his body, then Trypticon's current height would have been more of a match for his rival. But instead, Hasbro's main concern about Metroplex was "Make him too tall for his own good!"

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Fasttrack's spear mode! Courtesy of a Hasbro Pulse email.

That looks nice, but I'll pass. I'm told bots such as Sixgun, Brunt etc originally came with the City Bots, in one form or another. As I make my own figure displays on them, I'll stick with the bots that do still come included. Like Full Tilt and Cerebros.

[ZeroWolf]

That looks pretty cool, though I'm curious to how the spears repaint will go as Black Zaraks spear is red.

[o.supreme]

That looks pretty cool, though I'm curious to how the spears repaint will go as Black Zaraks spear is red.

Yeah that will be interesting. A Roritchi Selects version has been confirmed IIRC, it being gold, and the Spear being red..... They may do a combination? As a 49ers fan I've always thought red and gold go well together

Additionally, since Hasbro mentioned Black Zarak directly, and with the supposed Roritchi selects repaint coming...Can a Selects Black Zarak really be that far fetched at this point...??

[Sabrblade]

Additionally, since Hasbro mentioned Black Zarak directly, and with the supposed Roritchi selects repaint coming...Can a Selects Black Zarak really be that far fetched at this point...??

At this point, it might just be something that they think would be nice to see happen rather than something that is guaranteed to happen. At present, they may be waiting first to see how well Scorponok does, financially, before deciding to tackle BlackZarak.

[o.supreme]

I understand that Legends Grand Maximus was a bit of a letdown in that it didn't meet the pre-order requirement to include the additional Pretender accessory, but I have it, and think it is great. Also the pre-order was only available to fans in Japan at the time. I understand its not definitive, and that Scorponok sales could definitely weigh in on determining whether its viable or not. The fact that they have *sold out* on Scorponok pre-orders 3 times on Pulse, and have obviously *upped* production to open for more pre-orders is definitely a positive sign. Perhaps Hasbro could offer BZ as its next Haslab crowdfund project, obviously a smaller price point, and smaller pre-order requirement than Unicron (I mean other than Primus himself, what toy could be as big or BIGGER than Unicron...??)

[ZeroWolf]

Hmm I see BZ as more of a Takara led initiative But I don't know, heck they could do him as a titan class release for 2022 if they really wanted

[-Kanrabat-]

Fasttrack's spear mode! Courtesy of a Hasbro Pulse email.

That looks nice, but I'll pass. I'm told bots such as Sixgun, Brunt etc originally came with the City Bots, in one form or another. As I make my own figure displays on them, I'll stick with the bots that do still come included. Like Full Tilt and Cerebros.

Well, for me those Cities will be woefully incomplete without their partformer partner. The original had them after all.

By moral principles I also give them 3 teams of Micromasters. As for the one that didn't had a part partsformer partner, I give them one. Like I gave Omega Supreme Ironworks.

[o.supreme]

Like I gave Omega Supreme Ironworks.

Did the same thing , Also gave Grand Max Aragon (as a Cog Stand in), until perhaps such time as an official one is made, if ever.

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Well, for me those Cities will be woefully incomplete without their partformer partner. The original had them after all.

By moral principles I also give them 3 teams of Micromasters. As for the one that didn't had a part partsformer partner, I give them one. Like I gave Omega Supreme Ironworks.

Well, for example (I will have to post pictures of these some day) my Trypticon is home to: 8 variants of Universe Cyclonus, 5 variants of Beast Machines Jetstorm and 3 variants of WFC [the game] Shockwave. There isn't really room for anyone else

[Sabrblade]

I understand that Legends Grand Maximus was a bit of a letdown in that it didn't meet the pre-order requirement to include the additional Pretender accessory, but I have it, and think it is great. Also the pre-order was only available to fans in Japan at the time. I understand its not definitive, and that Scorponok sales could definitely weigh in on determining whether its viable or not. The fact that they have *sold out* on Scorponok pre-orders 3 times on Pulse, and have obviously *upped* production to open for more pre-orders is definitely a positive sign. Perhaps Hasbro could offer BZ as its next Haslab crowdfund project, obviously a smaller price point, and smaller pre-order requirement than Unicron

In response to this, I've come across this rather astute post over at The Allspark:

They said the same thing about Metrotitan.

People talk big about buying "obvious repaints" but the minute Black Zarak comes out through some non-mass-retail option and is $200+ there'll be a chorus of "I'll wait until clearance" or "such-and-such third party will be better" or "I'll buy a loose stolen one off eBay".

[AllNewSuperRobot]

The one thing that might work in favour of a Black Zarak release being that he was a popular G1 iteration in Japan itself. Much like the King Poseidon release, that by the same token, meant nothing to the western fanbase.

[Sabrblade]

The one thing that might work in favour of a Black Zarak release being that he was a popular G1 iteration in Japan itself. Much like the King Poseidon release, that by the same token, meant nothing to the western fanbase.

Bad example since King Poseidon (who was just a thuggish mook in Japan, compared to BlackZarak's main antagonist role) shared his same toy in the West as Piranacon. The Seacons were beloved on both sides of the Pacific, even with lack of a cartoon appearance in the West.