The Energon Pub

[Sentinel_Primal]

I've got a weird idea, if someone will indulge me. Can we get a shot of Titans Return Legends Bumblebee next to Studio Series Deluxe Jazz?

Sorry about the awkward way it's taken. I'm not always the best at taking pictures but is this what you were looking for?

Edit: Okay, I checked it using the preview feature, but then I checked the post on my phone to see if worked and it didn't. My bad

[Microbot]

In my mind, this is must be the right scale between Grimlock and Optimus in this WFC series.


So I hope they give, in case they will make the Dinobots, Grimlock as a real Voyager class like Ultramagnus Full figure

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I've got a weird idea, if someone will indulge me. Can we get a shot of Titans Return Legends Bumblebee next to Studio Series Deluxe Jazz?

Sorry about the awkward way it's taken. I'm not always the best at taking pictures but is this what you were looking for?

Edit: Okay, I checked it using the preview feature, but then I checked the post on my phone to see if worked and it didn't. My bad

It's weird with some hosts. It does work when, in Firefox, you right-click on "image" and select "View Image". That said... dang, Jazz is TINY. TR Bumblebee comes to 3/4 his size

[Sentinel_Primal]

I've got a weird idea, if someone will indulge me. Can we get a shot of Titans Return Legends Bumblebee next to Studio Series Deluxe Jazz?

Sorry about the awkward way it's taken. I'm not always the best at taking pictures but is this what you were looking for?

Edit: Okay, I checked it using the preview feature, but then I checked the post on my phone to see if worked and it didn't. My bad

It's weird with some hosts. It does work when, in Firefox, you right-click on "image" and select "View Image". That said... dang, Jazz is TINY. TR Bumblebee comes to 3/4 his size

Well, I managed to fix it by making a quick Twitter and tweeting it and then using that link But yeah SS Jazz is small and the only reason I ended up picking him up was because I was getting Ironhide and the store I grabbed them at had a buy one get one half off sale. I doubt Cliffjumper will be that small though. I think he'll end up being like Refraktor's height

[aronjlove]

Well, I managed to fix it by making a quick Twitter and tweeting it and then using that link But yeah SS Jazz is small and the only reason I ended up picking him up was because I was getting Ironhide and the store I grabbed them at had a buy one get one half off sale. I doubt Cliffjumper will be that small though. I think he'll end up being like Refraktor's height

If you use Google Photos as cloud storage already, you can then share the pic and copy the URL to this site https://ctrlq.org/google/photos/, and it will give you a "real" URL you can then use with the IMG tag.

[AcademyofDrX]

I get that the PotP Dinobots weren't perfect, largely because of their included combiner features, but they weren't awful. We got them just two years ago, so you'd better be patient, because we aren't likely to see new ones anytime soon.

I've given up on mixing Legends and Deluxe minibots. I'm going to go ahead and get a 3p Cliffjumper head for TR Chase, since he's the last one I need. Unfortunately, I'm a sucker, so I'll probably re-purchase all of the '84 crew at Deluxe scale. Honestly, I'll probably buy the '85 crew too. I had a perfectly good set, but now I need the new thing.

Huh, I guess this is how it feels to be a CHUGnut.

[Wolfman Jake]

I've got a weird idea, if someone will indulge me. Can we get a shot of Titans Return Legends Bumblebee next to Studio Series Deluxe Jazz?

Sorry about the awkward way it's taken. I'm not always the best at taking pictures but is this what you were looking for?

Edit: Okay, I checked it using the preview feature, but then I checked the post on my phone to see if worked and it didn't. My bad

It's weird with some hosts. It does work when, in Firefox, you right-click on "image" and select "View Image". That said... dang, Jazz is TINY. TR Bumblebee comes to 3/4 his size

Well, I managed to fix it by making a quick Twitter and tweeting it and then using that link But yeah SS Jazz is small and the only reason I ended up picking him up was because I was getting Ironhide and the store I grabbed them at had a buy one get one half off sale. I doubt Cliffjumper will be that small though. I think he'll end up being like Refraktor's height

Thank you, Sentinel_Primal! This is just what I was looking for! Believe it or not, this gives me hope for Earthrise Cliffjumper being "backwards compatible" after all. Some of the mass of Cliffjumper will be taken up by his huge cannon, but Jazz there has a big accessory too, so it's a wash. However, Jazz has a pretty slender robot mode, and tiny Cinderella feet, and not much chunk on the back either. Cliffjumper has some big clown shoe feet and what looks like a bit of a backpack as well, so if he's about the same mass as Jazz regardless of accessories, some of that mass in height in Jazz can easily be put in the big feet and hunchback of Cliffjumper to shorten him down to Legends height. Please, Hasbro, release some size comparison photos for us!

[Sentinel_Primal]

So, I've been thinking about Scorponok and how they're handling the two stage headmaster unit, but I'm wondering if the deluxe figure will end up being purely Zarak's color scheme, or if some of Scorponok's color scheme will end up making it's way into the robot mode in ways other than kibble

[Hero Alpha]

Although I am super pumped for a great Cliffjumper, finally, I do hope he is close to Legends size. So glad he is coming with his big sniper/canon/rifle/gun thing. After seeing him, what I really want is a new Goldbug. I have the TR Bee and its perfect,for Bumblebee, but in my headcanon collection its during roughly after episode 8 of Headmasters. So I really need/want a great Goldbug. This would be a good time to me since we already got a good Bee.

[Sentinel_Primal]

Although I am super pumped for a great Cliffjumper, finally, I do hope he is close to Legends size. So glad he is coming with his big sniper/canon/rifle/gun thing. After seeing him, what I really want is a new Goldbug. I have the TR Bee and its perfect,for Bumblebee, but in my headcanon collection its during roughly after episode 8 of Headmasters. So I really need/want a great Goldbug. This would be a good time to me since we already got a good Bee.

That actually is a good point. They said they weren't redoing Cliffjumper as Bee, but that doesn't mean they won't redo him in gold. Hopefully we see a Goldbug soon

[sol magnus]

Although I am super pumped for a great Cliffjumper, finally, I do hope he is close to Legends size. So glad he is coming with his big sniper/canon/rifle/gun thing. After seeing him, what I really want is a new Goldbug. I have the TR Bee and its perfect,for Bumblebee, but in my headcanon collection its during roughly after episode 8 of Headmasters. So I really need/want a great Goldbug. This would be a good time to me since we already got a good Bee.

That actually is a good point. They said they weren't redoing Cliffjumper as Bee, but that doesn't mean they won't redo him in gold. Hopefully we see a Goldbug soon

Cliffjumper's arms don't really seem to bear that out, but whatevs.

[william-james88]

Although I am super pumped for a great Cliffjumper, finally, I do hope he is close to Legends size. So glad he is coming with his big sniper/canon/rifle/gun thing. After seeing him, what I really want is a new Goldbug. I have the TR Bee and its perfect,for Bumblebee, but in my headcanon collection its during roughly after episode 8 of Headmasters. So I really need/want a great Goldbug. This would be a good time to me since we already got a good Bee.

That actually is a good point. They said they weren't redoing Cliffjumper as Bee, but that doesn't mean they won't redo him in gold. Hopefully we see a Goldbug soon

Cliffjumper's arms don't really seem to bear that out, but whatevs.

Just so we all get our facts straight, Hasbro didn't say outright that they would not use the cliff mold and turn it into Bumblebee. They just said that for the first time since G1, Cliff had his own mold and wasnt based on a BB mold.

Hasbro could always be sneaky and say that while Cliff aint based on a BB design, BB could be based on a cliff design.

If anyone wants to know exactly what was said, it's all taken from a part of this 44 min video where John Warden discusses Cliffjumper. I dont know the time stamp, let us know when you find it.



Also here are the remarks on Cliffjumper's size:

Taller than a Legends class figure, shorter than your typical deluxe. Probably similar to Studio Series Jazz.

[Skritz]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

[Wolfman Jake]

Also here are the remarks on Cliffjumper's size:

Taller than a Legends class figure, shorter than your typical deluxe. Probably similar to Studio Series Jazz.

Well, I guess that's that, then.

[ZeroWolf]

Also here are the remarks on Cliffjumper's size:

Taller than a Legends class figure, shorter than your typical deluxe. Probably similar to Studio Series Jazz.

Well, I guess that's that, then.

How else would they have gotten you to buy all the minibots again if not for a new scale

[Sentinel_Primal]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

That actually would be amazing. They have a similar transformation scheme, plus the hook hand and an EMP Generator would really work with Siege's C.O.M.B.A.T. system

[Skritz]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

That actually would be amazing. They have a similar transformation scheme, plus the hook hand and an EMP Generator would really work with Siege's C.O.M.B.A.T. system

Exactly. Too bad it won't happen becausr Warden is a G1 puritan.

[Jeddostotle7]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

That actually would be amazing. They have a similar transformation scheme, plus the hook hand and an EMP Generator would really work with Siege's C.O.M.B.A.T. system

Exactly. Too bad it won't happen becausr Warden is a G1 puritan.

Hey, we're getting Lockdown in the Cyberverse cartoon, and will probably eventually get a figure of him. Wouldn't be surprised if we got a WFC trilogy figure of him at some point, especially given the whole "Mercanaries" faction in the card game that is supposed to also appear in some way in the Earthrise line, with Lockdown included prominently among their numbers.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

That actually would be amazing. They have a similar transformation scheme, plus the hook hand and an EMP Generator would really work with Siege's C.O.M.B.A.T. system

Exactly. Too bad it won't happen becausr Warden is a G1 puritan.

Cybertron Optimus Prime and Hot Shot, RiD Ultra Magnus and Movie Barricade?

[william-james88]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

That actually would be amazing. They have a similar transformation scheme, plus the hook hand and an EMP Generator would really work with Siege's C.O.M.B.A.T. system

Exactly. Too bad it won't happen becausr Warden is a G1 puritan.

Cybertron Optimus Prime and Hot Shot, RiD Ultra Magnus and Movie Barricade?

Movie barricade?!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

That actually would be amazing. They have a similar transformation scheme, plus the hook hand and an EMP Generator would really work with Siege's C.O.M.B.A.T. system

Exactly. Too bad it won't happen becausr Warden is a G1 puritan.

Cybertron Optimus Prime and Hot Shot, RiD Ultra Magnus and Movie Barricade?

Movie barricade?!

Who else is the original inspiration for the Siege guy? True, he's based on art, but that art is inspired by Movie Barricade

[Sentinel_Primal]

Know what would make a really ambitious reshell of Earthrise Wheeljack? A G1-styled Lockdown.

That actually would be amazing. They have a similar transformation scheme, plus the hook hand and an EMP Generator would really work with Siege's C.O.M.B.A.T. system

Exactly. Too bad it won't happen becausr Warden is a G1 puritan.

Cybertron Optimus Prime and Hot Shot, RiD Ultra Magnus and Movie Barricade?

I only count Hot Shot and Barricade. Ultra Magnus still has a G1 robot mode and Cybertron Prime is halfway there, but the base head sculpt knocks it down in my opinion because of the full mouth plate. Still, as far as I'm concerned, we're making progress

[Skritz]

I'm going to keep making fun of Warden until we get a Beast Wars anniversary line some day!

[Sabrblade]

I'm going to keep making fun of Warden until we get a Beast Wars anniversary line some day!

What if we do and the whole line turns out to be as bad as Universe Cheetor?

[Skritz]

I'm going to keep making fun of Warden until we get a Beast Wars anniversary line some day!

What if we do and the whole line turns out to be as bad as Universe Cheetor?

T30 Waspinator and POTP Optimal Optimus give me hope.