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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:32 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Tontons review of Ratchet is up, pretty darn unbleeped funny as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9-7WptJETY

A lot of complaining for something he didn't and doesn't have to actually spend money on.


Dunno, he might have promised a thousand Vietnamese factory workers his soul or worse. Money or sexual favors are definitely being exchanged somewhere along the line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby WeatherManNX01 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:53 pm

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Amazon did the same with my Quintesson. I had an email saying I needed to approve a bunch of delays on the next waves into October. I approved all the delays but the Quintesson (waiting to find out more about the Pit of Judgment).

And then the Quintesson ships first anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Tuned Agent » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:59 pm

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I think Hasbro forgot that red is one of Ratchet's main colors.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:13 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Tontons review of Ratchet is up, pretty darn unbleeped funny as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9-7WptJETY

A lot of complaining for something he didn't and doesn't have to actually spend money on.


Dunno, he might have promised a thousand Vietnamese factory workers his soul or worse. Money or sexual favors are definitely being exchanged somewhere along the line.

I just find it the height of hypocrisy. I watch them for information on the new figs, but I don't get it twisted that he's getting them illegitimately. If it were me, I would probably be nicer about the stuff if I wasn't just hawking for views, knowing that I'm definitely 'Shelton Benjamining' the process of getting them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:23 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Tontons review of Ratchet is up, pretty darn unbleeped funny as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9-7WptJETY

A lot of complaining for something he didn't and doesn't have to actually spend money on.


Dunno, he might have promised a thousand Vietnamese factory workers his soul or worse. Money or sexual favors are definitely being exchanged somewhere along the line.



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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:35 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Tontons review of Ratchet is up, pretty darn unbleeped funny as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9-7WptJETY

A lot of complaining for something he didn't and doesn't have to actually spend money on.


Dunno, he might have promised a thousand Vietnamese factory workers his soul or worse. Money or sexual favors are definitely being exchanged somewhere along the line.

I just find it the height of hypocrisy. I watch them for information on the new figs, but I don't get it twisted that he's getting them illegitimately. If it were me, I would probably be nicer about the stuff if I wasn't just hawking for views, knowing that I'm definitely 'Shelton Benjamining' the process of getting them.

Even if what you were reviewing was bad? Wouldn't that lead to a bad taste if you were mincing your words just because of how you got the toy?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Fox Thiagarajan » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:36 pm

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I mean I'm glad to see the review and all as always, but this guy getting these figs so early just makes me hate him. I'm jealous, plain and simple. I want to keep watching but also tell him to get the hell outta here. Oh well.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:38 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Tontons review of Ratchet is up, pretty darn unbleeped funny as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9-7WptJETY

A lot of complaining for something he didn't and doesn't have to actually spend money on.


Dunno, he might have promised a thousand Vietnamese factory workers his soul or worse. Money or sexual favors are definitely being exchanged somewhere along the line.

I just find it the height of hypocrisy. I watch them for information on the new figs, but I don't get it twisted that he's getting them illegitimately. If it were me, I would probably be nicer about the stuff if I wasn't just hawking for views, knowing that I'm definitely 'Shelton Benjamining' the process of getting them.

Even if what you were reviewing was bad? Wouldn't that lead to a bad taste if you were mincing your words just because of how you got the toy?

I'd be fair. I would review it as I would anything else, but that review was just trash. Plus, all the cursing? When did that start?

I get what you mean, but it was over the top (in my opinion).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:43 pm

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Thats fine :) I was surprised by the language, wasn't like the other reviews I watcbed :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:47 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Thats fine :) I was surprised by the language, wasn't like the other reviews I watcbed :-?

i don't even mind cursing. It's just that it came out of nowhere. Looking at the comments, it's like he's trying to compete with some other guy who curses.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:52 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Thats fine :) I was surprised by the language, wasn't like the other reviews I watcbed :-?

i don't even mind cursing. It's just that it came out of nowhere. Looking at the comments, it's like he's trying to compete with some other guy who curses.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:17 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:So where's Lifeline?


They might of potentially been given Ratchet only, otherwise maybe there will be a part 2 but I think if they did have her it would of made more sense to put the two in a video together.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Black Bumblebee » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:25 pm

I'm not giving a guy who buys stolen toys any views. We know what the toy looks like already. I don't need to give advertising revenue to this.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Lore Keeper » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:28 pm

Guys, TonTon joined a Discord that im in. I'm biting my tongue to not make a crack about stealing toys. Not sure how much longer I can hold out... :-D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:32 pm

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Black Bumblebee wrote:I'm not giving a guy who buys stolen toys any views. We know what the toy looks like already. I don't need to give advertising revenue to this.

Well, given this clearly has deco changes from the promo pictures initially released (specifically in that the thighs and windshield hinge are now white instead of grey, pushing him more into a Marvel-style Ratchet look)... no, we don't quite know what the toy looks like already. Same for all the other times reviews like this have shown that the final product's deco is different (sometimes substantially so) from the various CG or physical promo pics.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:16 pm

I thought the cursing was funny.

TBH, I'm really disappointed by Ratchet and have been really mulling over whether he's worth getting. I have the old Universe toy. It's not great, but I have him. This guy is more expensive and ... doesn't seem worth it.

On the other hand the robot mode is definitely better. I wish it was as clear cut a case as Starscream replacing the classics mold.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:31 pm

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Gauntlet101010 wrote:I thought the cursing was funny.

TBH, I'm really disappointed by Ratchet and have been really mulling over whether he's worth getting. I have the old Universe toy. It's not great, but I have him. This guy is more expensive and ... doesn't seem worth it.

On the other hand the robot mode is definitely better. I wish it was as clear cut a case as Starscream replacing the classics mold.


If you can find him Siege Ratchet actually makes for a great Earth-mode Ratchet, despite his alt-mode officially being a "Cybertronian" one it make for a good Earth truck, more so then Siege Ironhide.

That makes me wonder actually how the Earthrise Ratchet shield/roof would look on the Siege mold.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby adamage1 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:34 pm

So, now Earthrise AND Siege have the same mistakes: Ratchet is supposed to have red hands and a red waist. At least Siege gave him some red highlights to break up the color scheme a bit, but this version is just a sea of white with dark gray(??) highlights and a touch of red on the shoulders and shins. The lack of his medical tools that Siege had is also a bummer. Instead of a repaint of Arcee, they should have just put that money into this figure.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:56 pm

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adamage1 wrote:So, now Earthrise AND Siege have the same mistakes: Ratchet is supposed to have red hands and a red waist. At least Siege gave him some red highlights to break up the color scheme a bit, but this version is just a sea of white with dark gray(??) highlights and a touch of red on the shoulders and shins. The lack of his medical tools that Siege had is also a bummer. Instead of a repaint of Arcee, they should have just put that money into this figure.


Only way he was going to get all of the paint needed would be the Netflix line, usually when inaccurate paintjobs happen it's usually because of something with the figure mold, kinda why initially Earthrise Prime was gonna have grey hands.

Plus with him in a two pack here this was the only way Ratchet was going to be released, if it's an exclusive or part of a two pack then that's almost always the case, so what they "should" do isn't always in line with what they "can" do.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:05 pm

I'm not as tempted to give Hasbro a pass on this one. They decided to make Ironhide and Ratchet retools and it's clear that that decision was a mistake. Taken another way they could have planned ahead a bit better and made both of them work by making more van-like Cybertronian vehicles. I mean ... vans! Vans are boxy as it is!

I think I'm talking myself into cancelling my preorder. The only thing that holds me back are the robot modes definately being superior to the old ones. Hm.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:35 pm

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I'm definitely passing on Ratchet. And whatever her name is.
I know he's supposed to be the exact same as Ironhide mold-wise, and this probably won't ever change.
However, Ironhide is a brute, beefcakey borderline meathead (which I'm okay with this type of character for being a warrior-type of personality), and Ratchet is a medic...
At some point I think a really cool update would be to not have them share the same mold...
Keep Ironhide bigger and bulkier while making Ratchet at least slightly smaller with a different, updated ambulance alt mode.
The only good thing about this Ratchet is the headsculpt. And I do like the look of the Autobot symbol.

But yeah, not only was I not sure about spending $40 to get him, the more I've seen him, the more I'm okay with saving some money and passing on this guy.
Makes me think that if I can't find Bluestreak or Netflix Bee, maybe I'll consider Wheeljack.
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Deluxe Class Ratchet

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:51 pm

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Was this supposed to be a joke or something? It's bad comedy!

Seriously, I don't understand why Ton Ton is so mad about this figure. He liked the mold as Ironhide just fine. I'm beginning to think this guy doesn't really care for G1. Watch the Warpath review again. He doesn't seem to get the "dumb design choices" made in that figure either, despite the fact that it's supposed to be a G1 throwback, like most other toys in the War for Cybertron Trilogy.

If you want Ironhide and Rathchet to be different molds, there are PLENTY of other Transformers lines that have done just that. G1 is really about the only time that Ironhide and Ratchet were mold-mates. It's NO surprise whatsoever that in a G1-inspired line, that is striving to give us the most faithful modern updates of these characters as seen in the original cartoon, that they stuck with making Ratchet a white recolor of Ironhide with a new head and an added light bar on top. Also, of course the figure is mostly white. That's how G1 Ratchet looks. Of course he doesn't have the Red Cross symbols on his shoulders. He can't anymore. They're a protected trademark that the Red Cross actively defends. They could have spared some red paint for the pelvis and hands, but that's all I would change, along with maybe Autobot logos on the shoulders to replace the Red Cross symbols. Is he really that upset that the gun barrels hidden in the shield are white with gray muzzles instead of all gray? Is he for real!?
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Deluxe Class Ratchet

Postby sol magnus » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:38 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:


Was this supposed to be a joke or something? It's bad comedy!

Seriously, I don't understand why Ton Ton is so mad about this figure. He liked the mold as Ironhide just fine. I'm beginning to think this guy doesn't really care for G1. Watch the Warpath review again. He doesn't seem to get the "dumb design choices" made in that figure either, despite the fact that it's supposed to be a G1 throwback, like most other toys in the War for Cybertron Trilogy.

If you want Ironhide and Rathchet to be different molds, there are PLENTY of other Transformers lines that have done just that. G1 is really about the only time that Ironhide and Ratchet were mold-mates. It's NO surprise whatsoever that in a G1-inspired line, that is striving to give us the most faithful modern updates of these characters as seen in the original cartoon, that they stuck with making Ratchet a white recolor of Ironhide with a new head and an added light bar on top. Also, of course the figure is mostly white. That's how G1 Ratchet looks. Of course he doesn't have the Red Cross symbols on his shoulders. He can't anymore. They're a protected trademark that the Red Cross actively defends. They could have spared some red paint for the pelvis and hands, but that's all I would change, along with maybe Autobot logos on the shoulders to replace the Red Cross symbols. Is he really that upset that the gun barrels hidden in the shield are white with gray muzzles instead of all gray? Is he for real!?

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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Earthrise Deluxe Class Ratchet

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:21 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:


Was this supposed to be a joke or something? It's bad comedy!

Seriously, I don't understand why Ton Ton is so mad about this figure. He liked the mold as Ironhide just fine. I'm beginning to think this guy doesn't really care for G1. Watch the Warpath review again. He doesn't seem to get the "dumb design choices" made in that figure either, despite the fact that it's supposed to be a G1 throwback, like most other toys in the War for Cybertron Trilogy.

If you want Ironhide and Rathchet to be different molds, there are PLENTY of other Transformers lines that have done just that. G1 is really about the only time that Ironhide and Ratchet were mold-mates. It's NO surprise whatsoever that in a G1-inspired line, that is striving to give us the most faithful modern updates of these characters as seen in the original cartoon, that they stuck with making Ratchet a white recolor of Ironhide with a new head and an added light bar on top. Also, of course the figure is mostly white. That's how G1 Ratchet looks. Of course he doesn't have the Red Cross symbols on his shoulders. He can't anymore. They're a protected trademark that the Red Cross actively defends. They could have spared some red paint for the pelvis and hands, but that's all I would change, along with maybe Autobot logos on the shoulders to replace the Red Cross symbols. Is he really that upset that the gun barrels hidden in the shield are white with gray muzzles instead of all gray? Is he for real!?

To be fair, they also shared a mold in Animated (their Cybertronian mode) and obviously classics. Now that I think about it, was there ever an ironhide released in Prime/Robots in Disguise? I don't even think there's an ironhide in Cyberverse (at least not in toy form)

You really want different molds look at how the live action movies handled the pair.

Disclaimer: I've never been bothered that they shared molds. I always took it that they had both started the same way but choose different career paths. I also still want to see the universe where Ratchets gender was kept female like his name sake :lol:
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