The Energon Pub

[Emerje]

Never did see the clone set or the Seeker set in stores, heck my Target never even put tags up for the clones, but had three spaces set aside for the Seekers (two on the end cap, one in the aisle). I had to get mine off Target.com. I'm curious if they bothered sticking clearance tags on the empty shelf.

Huh, so Target can print Clearance stickers...

Haven't they always? I don't think I've ever bought a clearance figure from Target that didn't have at least one clearance sticker on it, sometimes two or three depending on how long the figure sat for.

Emerje

[chuckdawg1999]

[Ultra Markus]

It's too bad we can't get a Bluestreak with paint and colors like Combiners Bluestreak.

do you have the blue bluestreak blues

[aronjlove]

Huh, so Target can print Clearance stickers...

Haven't they always? I don't think I've ever bought a clearance figure from Target that didn't have at least one clearance sticker on it, sometimes two or three depending on how long the figure sat for.

Emerje

Mostly being sarcastic as I've never seen a single Transformer figure on clearance at Target in about 2 years of looking for Transformers there.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Never did see the clone set or the Seeker set in stores, heck my Target never even put tags up for the clones, but had three spaces set aside for the Seekers (two on the end cap, one in the aisle). I had to get mine off Target.com. I'm curious if they bothered sticking clearance tags on the empty shelf.

Mine still has the clones there as of yesterday morning, but i never saw the seekers.

It also has 3 Sky Lynx toys, which is awesome. Sky Lynx is such a good toy.

I think after messing around some Scorp may have dropped a bit on my favorite Earthrise toys. He hasn't proven as playable as I would have thought when first messing with him, he's definitely not as fun as Sky Lynx or Doubledealer, and I think I enjoy Cliffjumper far more than him too.

[AcademyofDrX]

Don't think it's been out for that short a time. However, like the Clones 2-packs and the Rainmaker 3-pack from SIEGE before it... it's a unique inventory item with its own pricetag, so it's probably easier for them to mark it down.

...I had an ugly thought: That clearance stickers can't mark down stuff independently of the computer after all. Which would definitely explain the problem with Shockwave. Because they certainly don't want to mark down the shiny new Earthrise Leaders.

I'll have to see if writing to Target can get me a definitive answer.

This is exactly right. The clearance stickers do not have their own bar codes, so their register/inventory system knows the correct discounted price. The only thing the stickers do is signal to customers that they're on sale. You can also use their price checker terminals to confirm sale prices for the same reason.

[o.supreme]

Never did see the clone set or the Seeker set in stores, heck my Target never even put tags up for the clones, but had three spaces set aside for the Seekers (two on the end cap, one in the aisle). I had to get mine off Target.com. I'm curious if they bothered sticking clearance tags on the empty shelf.

I saw the clones Twice, one time I happened to be at a way out-of-the way Target in an sparsely populated area, and saw 4 of them on the shelf, I'm sure some scalper eventually got them. I saw the Villains pack once, at my local Target, and that's it. I saw the micromaster 10 pack and Rainmakers maybe 2 times last year. They sell quickly though, certainly not enough time for clearance at least in any stores in my area. The only clearance TF I've seen is of course the MP Movie Starscream, which is a whole other cluster I've ranted about in other threads.

[Sabrblade]

I just wish that any Target store within 35 miles of me would actually carry Titan class Scorponok, but all of them listed on Target's website say that Scorponok is "Not sold at this store".

[o.supreme]

I just wish that any Target store within 35 miles of me would actually carry Titan class Scorponok, but all of them listed on Target's website say that Scorponok is "Not sold at this store".

That is exactly the rant I had. I am fortunate to have 10 Target stores I can drive to and get to in 30 minuets or less in any direction (the closest is less than 10 minutes away).

Brickseek came through for me when I got Scorponok, had to drive 25 miles one-way, and argue with 2 levels of management to get it out of the back, but I got it. Since then My daughter saw it one other time at my closest store, but seeing as how I've not seen it since, I don't regret my actions. Yes I've seen the tag & shelfspace at some stores, bit not the toy itself. Then seeing MP Starscream Everywhere, and in multiples (a similarly priced toy) is maddening, then it goes on clearance, then they issue another slightly less expensive MP ...

I asked here though, if fans were satisfied with the availability of Scorponok, since most are getting him online, there didn't seem to be any complaint. I guess I'm just old fashioned, still like to see what I'm getting before I buy it, if at all possible.

[TF-fan kev777]

I just wish that any Target store within 35 miles of me would actually carry Titan class Scorponok, but all of them listed on Target's website say that Scorponok is "Not sold at this store".

That is exactly the rant I had. I am fortunate to have 10 Target stores I can drive to and get to in 30 minuets or less in any direction (the closest is less than 10 minutes away).

Brickseek came through for me when I got Scorponok, had to drive 25 miles one-way, and argue with 2 levels of management to get it out of the back, but I got it. Since then My daughter saw it one other time at my closest store, but seeing as how I've not seen it since, I don't regret my actions. Yes I've seen the tag & shelfspace at some stores, bit not the toy itself. Then seeing MP Starscream Everywhere, and in multiples (a similarly priced toy) is maddening, then it goes on clearance, then they issue another slightly less expensive MP ...

I asked here though, if fans were satisfied with the availability of Scorponok, since most are getting him online, there didn't seem to be any complaint. I guess I'm just old fashioned, still like to see what I'm getting before I buy it, if at all possible.

I think you are overlooking the amount of space Scorponok eats up as compared to ML Starscream. Of all the targets near me (about 8 ), only the Super Target carried Scorponok. None of them had enough shelf space to carry it except the Super Target. MP Screamer uses less than 1/2 the shelf space than Scorponok, and MP ratchet, 1/2 the space that MP Screamer does and only 1/4 the space Scorponok does.

Makes perfect sense why they would choose that way when you look at the perspective of "Where the hell are we going to put that?"

Also, as for seeing wanting to see a Titan in hand first, what do you specifically want to see, the box? It isn't like the smaller figures where you can pick out the best deco, or see if any pieces are missing.

[Wolfman Jake]

Well, I don't think ER Bluestreak has made its way to Minnesota quite yet, at least not in the Twin Cities area. I've checked nine stores or so since the new of a sighting in Kentucky, and nothing. Most of them had no Generations Deluxes on the shelves at all. A few had old Siege stock. One had Wave 1 of Earthrise. Would be nice to see the Wave 2 Earthrise Deluxes on shelves sometime ever.

[o.supreme]

I think you are overlooking the amount of space Scorponok eats up as compared to ML Starscream. Of all the targets near me (about 8 ), only the Super Target carried Scorponok. None of them had enough shelf space to carry it except the Super Target. MP Screamer uses less than 1/2 the shelf space than Scorponok, and MP ratchet, 1/2 the space that MP Screamer does and only 1/4 the space Scorponok does.

Makes perfect sense why they would choose that way when you look at the perspective of "Where the hell are we going to put that?"

Also, as for seeing wanting to see a Titan in hand first, what do you specifically want to see, the box? It isn't like the smaller figures where you can pick out the best deco, or see if any pieces are missing.

I understand about shelfspace, but when Scorponok is guaranteed to sell, and they mark MPM Starscream 1/2 off after about a month of being out?, then replace it with another MPM that takes up less space, but won't sell any better...It's pretty obvious which toy would have been better to stock more of, in spite of how large it's box was

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I think you are overlooking the amount of space Scorponok eats up as compared to ML Starscream. Of all the targets near me (about 8 ), only the Super Target carried Scorponok. None of them had enough shelf space to carry it except the Super Target. MP Screamer uses less than 1/2 the shelf space than Scorponok, and MP ratchet, 1/2 the space that MP Screamer does and only 1/4 the space Scorponok does.

Makes perfect sense why they would choose that way when you look at the perspective of "Where the hell are we going to put that?"

Also, as for seeing wanting to see a Titan in hand first, what do you specifically want to see, the box? It isn't like the smaller figures where you can pick out the best deco, or see if any pieces are missing.

I understand about shelfspace, but when Scorponok is guaranteed to sell, and they mark MPM Starscream 1/2 off after about a month of being out?, then replace it with another MPM that takes up less space, but won't sell any better...It's pretty obvious which toy would have been better to stock more of, in spite of how large it's box was

Scorponok isn't even remotely guaranteed to sell more than the MPMs. Neither are. They are high price items, neither would sell better by default.

The MPM price was incredibly strange, if the same happened to Scorponok, he'd be considered a bomb. Considering the Shockwave's still sitting around at full price, I don't think we can automatically assume a G1 toy would sell better either

[o.supreme]

I don't think we can automatically assume a G1 toy would sell better either

I think the fact that ER Scorp instantly sells out is proof enough, while MPM has to be clearanced for someone to even be interested.

But do we know how many ER Scorponoks went to retail vs MPM Starscreams? It's pretty obvious since ER Scorp sells out instantly (what few there were), it wasn't a bomb. Heck even if you moved things around a little

Say 10,000 units of MPM went to Target stores and 1000 ER Scorponoks....

Change that to 2500 Scorponoks and only 8500 MPM Starscreams, that would make Scorp a bit more readily available, and while it would not instantly sell out, it would at least be visible for a time, and Target would make way more profit.

Also Siege Shockwave wasn't that great a toy, kind of like MPM Starscream, and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overproduced.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I think the fact that ER Scorp instantly sells out is proof enough, while MPM has to be clearanced for someone to even be interested.

MPM Starscream did not have a pre-order for the Hasbro one, it was a Target exclusive, it literally came in stock, no pre-order. Scorp had pre-orders in February, 6 months of pre-orders. Huge difference.

2nd point to this point: We know the Titans have been drastically cut back since Trypticon. They are almost being made to pre-order and that is about it. Lest we forget that Omega was the first titan not to see deep discount months after release.

Also Siege Shockwave wasn't that great a toy, kind of like MPM Starscream, and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overproduced.

Again incorrect, Siege Shockwave was a pretty good toy. He was overproduced, but again goes to show the weakness and inconsistency of clearance items: he has shelfwarmed for over a year and no discount, while another was a fresh release with no preorder and went on clearance after only a month. The sales are not consistent.

[Hellscream9999]

Again incorrect, Siege Shockwave was a pretty good toy. He was overproduced, but again goes to show the weakness and inconsistency of clearance items: he has shelfwarmed for over a year and no discount, while another was a fresh release with no preorder and went on clearance after only a month. The sales are not consistent.

This is correct, siege shockwave uses the same store inventory number as earthrise doubledealer, and (likely) will share the same inventory number as kingdom bw megs - they're all the same in targets eyes - you can't clearance one without affecting all the others; the only way to do that (and the smart way) is to change the inventory numbers along with the line a 'la the way it was done with the prime wars trilogy

[Sabrblade]

This is correct, siege shockwave uses the same store inventory number as earthrise doubledealer, and (likely) will share the same inventory number as kingdom bw megs - they're all the same in targets eyes

I knew it! Purple, gun arm, ambitious, BW Megatron is Shockwave!

[Hellscream9999]

I honestly can't get enough of the allicons' molds double-jointed ankles, he can just pull off so many poses - it's great

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Again incorrect, Siege Shockwave was a pretty good toy. He was overproduced, but again goes to show the weakness and inconsistency of clearance items: he has shelfwarmed for over a year and no discount, while another was a fresh release with no preorder and went on clearance after only a month. The sales are not consistent.

This is correct, siege shockwave uses the same store inventory number as earthrise doubledealer, and (likely) will share the same inventory number as kingdom bw megs - they're all the same in targets eyes - you can't clearance one without affecting all the others; the only way to do that (and the smart way) is to change the inventory numbers along with the line a 'la the way it was done with the prime wars trilogy

Did they change them, though? There was a Combiner Wars Starscream that had been lingering on the shelves at one Target in my area throughout Titans Return and was still there well into Power of the Primes. And when I scanned him? He had the same price as a PotP Leader.

Yeah.


Anyway, behold Snapdragon with Brunt's turret mounted.

(side note, if we don't get an official Metroshot I am buying another Six-Gun to make one with because Brunt has some definite limits as far as being a Weaponizer).

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I didn't realize until tonight just how few WFC cons have 5mm ports on the sides of their arms. I wanted to equip doublecrosser to a con, but it took a while to find one with the properly placed port. He ended up with Snapdragon

[Sowndwave76]

We'll get ours in time.

Hope you're right... I guess maybe I should be more worried about getting ahold of Netflix Soundwave.

Did you have difficulty finding any of the first assortment WFC Netflix figures?

No, I actually wasn’t real interested in the vast majority of those.
Only ended up getting Hotlink.

I said that because I have a bad feeling that Slundwave is going to be really difficult to find...
I actually also want Netflix Bumblebee & Barricade.

[Sowndwave76]

I just realized I am also having a discussion with you in the Kingdom thread. We should be buds.

I think the next time we get some of these characters in a regular line, there will be another gimmick of some sort which shifts the aesthetic away from the classic G1 stylings...now that we're getting some really solid G1-looking characters, it's difficult for me to believe that it'll be sooner than later that we'll get them again.

This is kinda what I've been thinking. If this is the case it could end up being an exciting toyline or something really off-putting.

And for me personally, will I still be collecting 3-5 years from now??? Maybe, but I'm really pretty happy with what I currently have.
I wouldn't doubt if after the ER and SS86 lines I take another lengthy collecting hiatus.

Again, we think (and collect action figures) alike.

My advice would be to get the two pack...
You could probably sell Ironhide if you really end up not liking him.
If you're okay with getting $20 for him, I'd feel pretty confident that someone would buy him for that price. Then you've spent $20 on Prowl like you would for any other deluxe.

Right right. I think it's hard to make a decision to buy something that I know I'll be turning around and selling as soon as I open the box. But then again, there could be someone out there who wants Ironhide and not Prowl, kind of like I want Prowl and not Ironhide. Ehhh I'll just have to think on it some more.

I decided a long while back that I was only going to collect Decepticons...
ER (& now the SS86) has been a game changer in that regard.
But I’m still really selective. In general I get buyer’s remorse really easily.
If you pass on the 2 pack, I don’t blame you, & we can still be buds.

[Sowndwave76]

BTW, the Smokescreen I ordered through Amazon is going to arrive on Thursday!!
Which is actually a month earlier than what my order confirmation stated.
& last I looked he’s $18.84 if anyone else was looking for him.

[Tuned Agent]

I didn't realize until tonight just how few WFC cons have 5mm ports on the sides of their arms. I wanted to equip doublecrosser to a con, but it took a while to find one with the properly placed port. He ended up with Snapdragon

You could connect another ramp dude to Doublecrosser and peg all that into Dirge's forearm, to be held riot shield style.

[Rodimus Prime]

BTW, the Smokescreen I ordered through Amazon is going to arrive on Thursday!!
Which is actually a month earlier than what my order confirmation stated.
& last I looked he’s $18.84 if anyone else was looking for him.

I just got my notice of his arrival as well. I hope it won't get delayed like some of the other figures I ordered then had to cancel.