The Energon Pub

[Qwan]

Yes yes, but is it a design for a real Megatron figure and when is it coming out?

Cool look into this process though, and not one I'd ever really though about before! I like the look of this Megatron design a lot too - looks to be (or at least be based on) the "Evergreen" design. Those little missile launchers on his lower legs are actually quite reminiscent of RiD Megatronus too, now that I notice them. I love seeing a bunch of previous design cues get consolidated into a newer design like this

[Skritz]

A random thought, not speculation: given this is going to be the War for Cybertron and presumably cover the days when it was leading up/was a full-blown planetary-scale war I do think it would be neat if we got a legend or deluxe-sized generic grunt for each faction. Maybe a Prime-esque Vehicon (visor and all) for the Decepticons and an Autotrooper for the Autobots so they can be used to army build.

Probably won't happen short of customs but admittedly it would be something interesting for them to do. Transformers line need more 'grunt'.

[o.supreme]

Again, speculation on my part. I know the default thinking when hearing the words "War For Cybertron" is a past civil war (either early original series 9MYA, or Aligned Video Game chronology etc...). Bu the "War For Cybertron" (i.e. to save Cybertron) could also be something current. Such as a War against Unicron.... I wouldn't mind either way...just a thought though.

[ZeroWolf]

While I think it is a pre-earth war (with a possible toyline being set in earth to get us to shell out for earth alt molds) I do think a toyline (or a few) centered around a fight to survive against unicron and his army (bring back the energon terrorcons!).

Also I think a troop building set would be a neat idea but to temper it a bit for hasbro, maybe have it as an online exclusive as I can't see kids parents being happy to fork out for a few of the same figure

[Skritz]

While I think it is a pre-earth war (with a possible toyline being set in earth to get us to shell out for earth alt molds) I do think a toyline (or a few) centered around a fight to survive against unicron and his army (bring back the energon terrorcons!).

Also I think a troop building set would be a neat idea but to temper it a bit for hasbro, maybe have it as an online exclusive as I can't see kids parents being happy to fork out for a few of the same figure

It's all about the marketing. If Transformers had some marketable 'grunt' like the Stormtroopers, with variations maybe, we could easily see some grunts at mass retail. Maybe a 'ground trooper', an 'air trooper' and a 'heavy trooper' who is a voyager could work. All three could share identical color schemes and design cues or they could maybe sell the ground trooper as two-packs with different weapons.

There are many ways this could be done and which could work without just having kids buy the same deluxe figure over and over again.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm hoping that this new Cybertron era means we get Omega and Scorponok as Titans finally, or at least Scroponok as a Leader figure.

Something that popped into my head that I would really like to see as well: Armada Tidal Wave as a Titan. He could totally work seeing as how he is humongous.

Also, sort of hoping that we get a new Primus and Unicron in the large Titan figures too. Will probably only get 2 or 3 from the whole trilogy, but I hope we at least get 3 and they are on this list.

[Skritz]

The fact it's intended to be a trilogy make things certainly interesting. All I'm hoping is that they don't visually clash too much with the other Generations stuff.

[ZeroWolf]

I'm hoping that this new Cybertron era means we get Omega and Scorponok as Titans finally, or at least Scroponok as a Leader figure.

Something that popped into my head that I would really like to see as well: Armada Tidal Wave as a Titan. He could totally work seeing as how he is humongous.

Also, sort of hoping that we get a new Primus and Unicron in the large Titan figures too. Will probably only get 2 or 3 from the whole trilogy, but I hope we at least get 3 and they are on this list.

I've said it before but it's worth saying again, it's a question of when for scorpy and omega. The preliminary designs are laying around, and have been since the 2016 poll which selected trypticon. In order to get the figure out on time they must have started work on all three of them so that things could progress smoothly no matter who was chosen.

Though I think we'll get a titan unicron only if the haslab thing amounts to nothing as there was rumblings if a bigger uni getting made to order through that. Also I would love a titan tidal wave, the bigger the better for him.

[william-james88]

Every two weeks, Seibertron.com brings you a Top 5 list related to all things Transformers written by me, your fellow editor. These are personal opinions (just like movie or game reviews hosted by sites are still just the opinion of one person) so what matters most is what you guys think of the topic or list, and I hope to see your own lists or comments on omissions and ranking. Let's have fun! All previous lists can be found here.


Top 5 G1 Characters we Want to See in Upcoming Generations War for Cybertron Trilogy Toylines

Hasbro says in interviews that they read these sites, especially for clues on what fans want next. So I compiled a very short list of what me and most of the fan community want to see on shelves at some point in this new trilogy. Just in case it needs to be said again, here are what I feel should be released sooner rather than later, and could fill some prized spots in our collections.
Let me know which other toys you would like to see released in the new Generations Trilogy Hasbro is concocting. I have another list for Beast Era toys coming up so for right now let's concentrate on the G1 side of things.


5. Leader Deathsaurus

Titans Return gave many fans a chance to finally own Overlord, a fan favourite character and an homage to a G1 toy many could only have dreamt of having. Deathsaurus is basically that again. And we know Hasbro is aware of this guy's popularity with his inclusion in the Power of the Primes fan vote (but under a mysterious moniker?????). Anyways, the point remains that as Hasbro covers more G1, they are bound to get to a decent representation of this character. And the fun thing is that the beast mode is such an odd design that this is a case where most fans would not be as upset with a reinterpretation, or a modernized look, being closer to a dragon than a giant chicken. We all love dragons, no?

Also, while I am not such a fan of repaints, a more western dragon-like Deathsaurus mold done right could harbor tons of repaints/retools fans could want from Beast Wars TMII Megatron to a "Generations" version of Prime Predaking. Of course, that's as long as Deatsaurus is the character initially in mind and not just the redeco. We got that before and it sucks.




4. Voyager Snap Dragon/ Ape Face

While not the most iconic toys or characters from the G1 era, they were very unique in being triple changer headmasters, with the headmasters serving double duty. The look of the original toys do suffer from having so much to do so everyone would love to see what modern day engineering could accomplish. And what pains me incredibly about these two, and why their absence in the Generations line is more felt now than ever before, is that the Titans Return Generations subline has all voyagers (the perfect class for Snap Dragon and Ape Face) be triple changing Head Masters. The line up included included a bunch of characters that were either never head masters or triple changers (or both) in the past, but it didn't have either Snap Dragon or Ape Face. I mean...




3. Voyager Shockwave

While a new voyager Soundwave would also be welcomed, a decently sized G1 Shockwave is long overdue. It is so weird that for such an iconic character, several of his toys have been too small (Combiner Wars legends, FOC deluxe). Fans, and I included, have to reply on odd placeholders like the Prime rendition, or the Cloud version, or even the Cyber Battalion toy, which has a perfect looking robot mode but remains a toy intended for a very young audience. He is just such an obvious gaping hole, especially in this scale and a series based on Cybertronian designs would be the perfect place to finally release him.




2. Titan Omega Supreme

Speaking of Cybertronian designs, we now come to Omega Supreme. He is one of the characters I want to see most for the simple reason that I am extremely curious as to what Takara and Hasbro would do with him. Unlike most Transformers toy, this initial toy is from another line and thus has a very different play pattern (100% partsforming) so I would like to see how this could be improved upon. I personally thought the Energon design was a smart way to reinvent him an since that has been done I think we are ready (more than ready) for something more than an homage to the original but the original truly reborn within the Transformers line proper (by Transformers designers) ready for both old school and new fans alike.




1. Ratchet/Ironhide

It sounds so obvious but for some reason we just keep getting shafted. Ratchet and Ironhide are some of the main representatives of the Transformers brand. In any medium, at any time, we have gotten one or the other, whenever there was a hint at an homage to G1. But believe it or not, when it comes to these characters in their G1 styles, we basically have the Masterpiece toys and nothing else decent. And that masterpiece toy is awesome, but we still need something in a Generations collection, something anyone can own. And not a redeco of a previous toy (like in Combiner Wars), these will already be redecos of each other, make a toy for them. I mean there was such a void in a decent Ratchet/Ironhide toy design that its one of the only designs the Forged to Fight team had to build on their own, amidst all their other toy based designs.




Honourable Mention: Scorponok, because I don't want to receive death threats. I mean, these are all priorities but the longer I make a list, the lesser the impact of the characters mentioned. These are all a must to me, and Scorponok is as well but I feel we have pretty good representations of him, which includes his G1 toy. That is one toy I think holds up better than most other toys from that era.

[Hydrargyrus]

I agree.
Omega should be a (double?) headmaster as well.
How about a nice Cliffjumper? He’s not really a priority, but would be welcome nonetheless.

[WreckerJack]

If that Ratchet were available I would be on my way to the store friggin yesterday!

[Sabrblade]

I'd rather that any Titan class Omega Supreme we get be of the smaller Titan size like Devastator and Predaking than of the larger size of the Cityformers. He's not a Cityformer, so there's no obligation to make him be that big, and he's historically been a rival of Devastator, so he'd need to fit in with Devy's size to better match that classic rivalry.

[Flashwave]

Um, the Forged to Fight Ratchet is the Universe mold. Moreso obvious in the vehicle mode than the Robot, but it has the same hood, grill, brushguard, and lightbar. Its the same vehicle.

However, I agree that we need a GOOD Ratchet/Ironhide, because "good" that mold aint.

I'm using Botcon 05 Ironhide and Ratchet, but at 100+ a piece, those two are not accesible to almost anyone. And the headmolds are not a perfect representation either. However the gimmixks of the toy are abeautiful homage to the G1 toys.

[william-james88]

Um, the Forged to Fight Ratchet is the Universe mold.

It is not, I was told by the people who actually designed the game when I went as press that is was an original design since they did not have any decent toy to base it off of. Just look at how this model uses part of the alt mode windows for feet. So what if the vehicle is similar? Thats like saying MP Soundwave is the same mold as G1 soundwave since the alt mode is similar.

[Sabrblade]

Um, the Forged to Fight Ratchet is the Universe mold.

It is not, I was told by the people who actually designed the game when I went as press that is was an original design since they did not have any decent toy to base it off of. Just look at how this model uses part of the alt mode windows for feet. So what if the vehicle is similar? Thats like saying MP Soundwave is the same mold as G1 soundwave since the alt mode is similar.

You sure they weren't just talking about the model for the robot mode? Cuz that vehicle mode is the spittin' image of the Universe mold's altmode silhouette, right down the same Hasbro-only lightbar (Takara's uses a different lightbar).

[william-james88]

Um, the Forged to Fight Ratchet is the Universe mold.

It is not, I was told by the people who actually designed the game when I went as press that is was an original design since they did not have any decent toy to base it off of. Just look at how this model uses part of the alt mode windows for feet. So what if the vehicle is similar? Thats like saying MP Soundwave is the same mold as G1 soundwave since the alt mode is similar.

You sure they weren't just talking about the model for the robot mode? Cuz that vehicle mode is the spittin' image of the Universe mold's altmode silhouette, right down the same Hasbro-only lightbar (Takara's uses a different lightbar).

Could be, and it's definitely the robot mode I am referring to.

[RiddlerJ]

While a decent Ratchet/Ironhide would be welcome, there's been at least some toys of them in previous line. I would much rather some guys who are long overdue for CHUG toys. How about the rest of the Autobot Targetasters and Powermasters? And the rest of the Deluxe Insecticons (we got two new Chop Shops and then...)

[Flashwave]

While a decent Ratchet/Ironhide would be welcome, there's been at least some toys of them in previous line. I would much rather some guys who are long overdue for CHUG toys. How about the rest of the Autobot Targetasters and Powermasters? And the rest of the Deluxe Insecticons (we got two new Chop Shops and then...)

Agreed, Hasbro totally could have given us Barrage from Bombshell and Venom from Kickback. They wouldn’t be as perfect as new molds, but it woulda given Hasbro the extra mileage out of the insecticons

[Ultra Markus]

i would like to all those but shockwave should be at the top
omega supreme? definitely and for an idea they should take some from FT-20 Terminus Giganticus
but i still think scorponok needs to be done at some point to at least finish off the citybots
and i like the idea of having dethsaurus but i think not with out starsaber
it always bothered me that no headmaster horrorcons made any debuts i felt we got cut short on them
and was hoping they would appear in the POTP line but whatever
and ratchet and ironhide they need to do something and not give us a toy with a gimmick that makes them not great(CW)
hopefully this new war for cybertron line wont disappoint

[ausbot]

I wanna see Unicron trilogy characters such as override, hotshot, demolishor, and sideways.

[Rodimus Prime]

Broadside done as an aircraft carrier. I know he's a triple changer, but the focus should be on the alt mode. Maybe make him like PoTP Prime and Rodimus. Smaller robot transforms into the jet, and when combined, larger form transforms into aircraft carrier.

A god-honest accurate voyager or even *gasp* leader Straxus.

Another figure I think should have gotten at least the voyager treatment by now is Thunderwing.

And before I forget, how about some Firecons and Sparkabots?

[ZeroWolf]

A good list that I agree with, in fact I would hedge a bet on omega appearing very very soon. Same with shockwave but there I'm not so confident on which class size he would be as hasbro might say he's so important that they could make him a leader.

A few mentions of my own, such as a nice nod to beast wars with a couple of characters being their cybertronian alt modes (a long shot given how the design team feels about that franchise but they can't complain if they have vehicle alts). A leader class star saber which uses the evolution gimmick. Seacons, just because, we can never have enough Seacons.

[noctorro]

I am at a loss here guys. War for Cybertron is not a trilogy, there are 2 games.

Or do they mean the Prime Trilogy?

In the case of the High Moon Studios (who are dead by the way) styled Transformers:
1. Slipstream Because she looks great and is awesome in the game
2. Ratchet I love Ratchet and Ironhide, could be a retool of the other
3. Ironhide
4. Demolisher Great looking tank mode, nice colors, very beefy
5. Barricade Cool little grey car, could be an army builder with a different head

As for the Prime Trilogy:
1. Energon Wing Saber update, can't combine with anybody, has shoulders, keep the size and bulk
2. G1 Optimus Prime, for the love of Primus, a voyager Optimus Prime where the windshield is the torso, where the arms come from below the windshield's sides. Make it happen Hasbro, not even Third Party's get something as simple as that right. You almost got it with Energon Optimus and Animated is actually perfect but it's Animated styled.
3. Ratchet and Ironhide again and make them old school big vans please, not movie nose jeeps
4. Reflector
5. Titans Return Frenzy in blue, I really, really need a Rumble version of him, he's my fav. Decepticon

Honorable mention: Redo Starscream, no fake chest please.

[Qwan]

I am at a loss here guys. War for Cybertron is not a trilogy, there are 2 games.

Or do they mean the Prime Trilogy?

In the case of the High Moon Studios (who are dead by the way) styled Transformers:
1. Slipstream Because she looks great and is awesome in the game
2. Ratchet I love Ratchet and Ironhide, could be a retool of the other
3. Ironhide
4. Demolisher Great looking tank mode, nice colors, very beefy
5. Barricade Cool little grey car, could be an army builder with a different head

As for the Prime Trilogy:
1. Energon Wing Saber update, can't combine with anybody, has shoulders, keep the size and bulk
2. G1 Optimus Prime, for the love of Primus, a voyager Optimus Prime where the windshield is the torso, where the arms come from below the windshield's sides. Make it happen Hasbro, not even Third Party's get something as simple as that right. You almost got it with Energon Optimus and Animated is actually perfect but it's Animated styled.
3. Ratchet and Ironhide again and make them old school big vans please, not movie nose jeeps
4. Reflector
5. Titans Return Frenzy in blue, I really, really need a Rumble version of him, he's my fav. Decepticon

Honorable mention: Redo Starscream, no fake chest please.

The new "War for Cybertron" trilogy has nothing to do with the War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron games. It's the new line/set of lines for Generations, basically the successor to the Prime Wars trilogy - it just happens to share its name with the older games.

[Wolfman Jake]

This upcoming "War for Cybertron" trilogy for the Transformers Generations toyline has NOTHING to do with the previous video games of same or similar name. Just like Robots in Disguise 2001 has nothing to do with Robots in Disguise 2015.

Also, I'm good on a voyager sized Shockwave for now, thanks to the Cyber Battallion version. I'm not saying I don't eventually want an actual Classics/Generations Shockwave, eventually, but I can wait for the time being. We first need an actually decent voyager Starscream, not the bundle of disappointment we got with Power of the Primes. Upscale that 2006 Classics Seeker mold, Hasbro! Give it some added articulation to match the voyager size class and EVERYONE will buy them. Every single one of them you repaint and retool! Trust me!