Seibertron wrote:These Battle Masters are 100% not what I wanted for G1 homage Targetmasters. I like the new ones just fine, but the G1 "updates" are really poor representations of the G1 Targetmasters. They are definitely a cheap cop-out with all of the recolors. Definitely prefer the route that Takara did with the Legends line, but still bummed there was no Nightstick or Fracas released.
Meh, the Takara Legends Targetmasters are part of the problem IMO. They started the whole "All gun modes have the same basic engineering and arrangement of limbs" thing, and Aimless' shoulder details come from Hasbro copying the Legends toy instead of looking at the 1987 version.
Oh, YES! I was hoping that Astrotrain being Leader-class would mean he was finally getting a tender!
william-james88 wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:So much awesomeness!
And Will I don’t think you’re a downer at all I think you make good points. For me the reimagined tetrajet just works and is fun to transform I’m totally going off personal preference. And me and my older brother it was always like he had Skywarp and Sideswipe I had Starscream and Sunstreaker it just takes me back
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While I do take issue with the shape, my criticism here was more with the colours.
I'm more bugged by the face choice than by the splotchy battle damage paint.
william-james88 wrote:Randomhero wrote:Well I’ll eat my hat and admit I was wrong about astrotrain and apeface being just rumors and I couldn’t be happier. Always happy to be wrong and yet more figures HOWEVER...what the $&%# was the point of the fan vote if spinister is there and Wheeljack is on other chrxters art?!?!
The point is that it guarantees which characters you will get. Others may happen if hasbro wants it to, but at least you can be assured that the winners will happen and happen first.
I dont see anything wrong with that. I wouldnt want to live a world where a character losing means I will never get him.
Yeah, the polls aren't "winner take all". They're more a way of gathering interest & demand data.
frogbat wrote:My only complaint bout astrotrain thus far is that he’s not a commander size version to go toe to toe v jetfire and that like jetfire, I already have two previous incarnations.
Crosshairs... would hope they give him a battle master add on! Was hoping for a kup repaint but this will do. Hope to acquire the g1 version one day.
Astrotrain was more in Blitzwing's size league anyway, even if he played the same role for the Decepticons that Skyfire did for the Autobots. Looking at the pics, his robot mode is probably Voyager-size - the loco-to-shuttle transformation looks to be identical to the original toy's and the robot mode looks likewise similar, meaning that his locomotive mode's new tender isn't part of them by default.
As for Crosshairs...
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I think the closed vehicle mode back and chest slope of SIEGE Ironhide make him work better than TR Kup.