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[Unicron Magnus]

I'm really tempted by that Astrotrain, even though I already have the Voyager from Titans Return.

$50 kind of hurts, though, especially if the new "Leader Class" is roughly Voyager-sized.

I'm liking Spinister too, especially the colors, but I tend to get weird QC issues with helicopter bots (for example, my Generations Whirl has the "gearing" misassembled), and $20 seems really steep for a Deluxe.

Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?

[-Kanrabat-]

Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?

Back in 2017 when Hasbro/Takara moved their production from China to Vietnam, the QC issues were rampant and horrible. I experienced wrong pairing of guns, misassembled legs, loose hips, even missing parts and bits. Both in the Titan Return and The Last Knight lines.

But now, I think they have FINALLY got their s#it together. Some issues are merely design issues like Siege Starscream chest panel or SS Old Camaro Bumblebee's roof. So far, every single Siege or Studio Series figures I bought have been absolutely PERFECT. No loose bits, no missasembly, no weird accessories issues, no missing parts. For the whole of the Siege line, there is absolutely no stinkers either! Every single figures so far are rated from "good" to "mind-blowing".

It's been a long while since we got such a perfect line.

[Sentinel_Primal]

Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?

Back in 2017 when Hasbro/Takara moved their production from China to Vietnam, the QC issues were rampant and horrible. I experienced wrong pairing of guns, misassembled legs, loose hips, even missing parts and bits. Both in the Titan Return and The Last Knight lines.

But now, I think they have FINALLY got their s#it together. Some issues are merely design issues like Siege Starscream chest panel or SS Old Camaro Bumblebee's roof. So far, every single Siege or Studio Series figures I bought have been absolutely PERFECT. No loose bits, no missasembly, no weird accessories issues, no missing parts. For the whole of the Siege line, there is absolutely no stinkers either! Every single figures so far are rated from "good" to "mind-blowing".

It's been a long while since we got such a perfect line.

I've not had any terrible QC issues, the only two that come to mind are incredibly minor and basically non-issues. My Chromia feels a bit loose, despite nothing actually being loose. Moreso it's just incredibly smooth joints. The only other QC issue I have is my Magnus' ratchets feel a bit weak when his armor's on and his waist is, again, incredibly smooth so it feels loose. Overall though, this line's been killing it with great QC

[william-james88]

I'm really tempted by that Astrotrain, even though I already have the Voyager from Titans Return.

$50 kind of hurts, though, especially if the new "Leader Class" is roughly Voyager-sized.

I'm liking Spinister too, especially the colors, but I tend to get weird QC issues with helicopter bots (for example, my Generations Whirl has the "gearing" misassembled), and $20 seems really steep for a Deluxe.

Has anyone had any QC issues with this line so far?

There's been some qc issues like starscream's chest and one of those shoulder armours on Magnus not lining up to tab in.

[Roadbuster]

Had one QC issue with Springer a few weeks ago. Springer's face paint can be damaged easily during transformation.

[-Kanrabat-]

Had one QC issue with Springer a few weeks ago. Springer's face paint can be damaged easily during transformation.

Such things are nothing compared to missing parts or a bot with two right legs.
2017. Never again.

[Stargrave]

Just in from YouTuber Long's Toys is a review of the new Target exclusive Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Micromaster 10 pack! This set includes an assortment of Decepticons and Autobots such as Ricon, Irontread, Groundshaker, Overair, Road Police, Wheelblaze, Cratermaker, Firelane, Slyhopper, and Nightflight! Most of these have already seen release in different paint jobs and decos throughout the waves of Siege releases but are presented here as all new characters, some harkening back to the utter obscurities of Micromaster history. Enjoy the view and share your thoughts with the Seibertron crew in the forums. As always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!

[Wolfman Jake]

Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?

[SpikeyTigertron]

Had one QC issue with Springer a few weeks ago. Springer's face paint can be damaged easily during transformation.

Such things are nothing compared to missing parts or a bot with two right legs.
2017. Never again.

My first siege Springer was missing a right front wheel (bought from Pulse). Second Springer (from amazon) has all his wheels but a yellow over spray on his helicopter roof assembly. Also each one had very different tolerances in the various joints and panel clips.

He’s first figure i’ve had with glaring issues... besides first run ironhide’s loose leg panels and Starscream’s chesr.

[Sabrblade]

Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?

Most likely they wanted to have some sort of familiar decos to use for the molds' redecos, but also probably wanted to have an equal number of Autobot and Decepticon weapon pairs in the whole Siege line (seven pairs of each), and so made Cratermaker and Fireline into a new Decepticon team.

Though, back in 1990-1991, Takara sold nearly all of the Decepticon Micromaster teams as Autobots instead, so this new Micromaster team colored like two Japanese-exclusive Autobot Micromaster decos but sold by Hasbro as Decepticons is kinda like an inverse of how Takara made almost everyone into an Autobot in Japan back in the early 90s.

[Wolfman Jake]

Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?

Most likely they wanted to have some sort of familiar decos to use for the molds' redecos, but also probably wanted to have an equal number of Autobot and Decepticon weapon pairs in the whole Siege line (seven pairs of each), and so made Cratermaker and Fireline into a new Decepticon team.

Though, back in 1990-1991, Takara sold nearly all of the Decepticon Micromaster teams as Autobots instead, so this new Micromaster team colored like two Japanese-exclusive Autobot Micromaster decos but sold by Hasbro as Decepticons is kinda like an inverse of how Takara made almost everyone into an Autobot in Japan back in the early 90s.

That's got to be one of the most convoluted, weirdest homages Hasbro has done with a repaint. Wow.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Can one of the Transformers lore keepers here explain to me why Cratermaker and Fireline look exactly like Powerbomb and Gunlift from Japanese G1 (Zone), but are branded here as Decepticons instead of the Autobots they originally were?

Most likely they wanted to have some sort of familiar decos to use for the molds' redecos, but also probably wanted to have an equal number of Autobot and Decepticon weapon pairs in the whole Siege line (seven pairs of each), and so made Cratermaker and Fireline into a new Decepticon team.

Though, back in 1990-1991, Takara sold nearly all of the Decepticon Micromaster teams as Autobots instead, so this new Micromaster team colored like two Japanese-exclusive Autobot Micromaster decos but sold by Hasbro as Decepticons is kinda like an inverse of how Takara made almost everyone into an Autobot in Japan back in the early 90s.

That's got to be one of the most convoluted, weirdest homages Hasbro has done with a repaint. Wow.

It's just conjucture, really. For all we know, they were like:

"We need redeco ideas"
"What about those Japanese toys?"
"O, all right. Let's make them Decepticons, I mean, redecos back then switched sides, right?"

[Sentinel_Primal]

So, I recently got Soundwave. Definitely enjoying this figure, but he definitely needs his cassettes. The vehicle modes aren't great, but they're acceptable. Just wish they'd gone with the tank/SUV of the WFC/FOC Soundwave

[emlit]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

[Vic Zanzibar]

So, I recently got Soundwave. Definitely enjoying this figure, but he definitely needs his cassettes. The vehicle modes aren't great, but they're acceptable. Just wish they'd gone with the tank/SUV of the WFC/FOC Soundwave

I wasn't gonna get that mold at first, but after replaceing my Deluxe Classics Seekers with a bunch of Voyager size Siegekers and adding non-armored Siege Shockwave to put next to Voyager size Megatron, it kinda feels weird to have Soundwave in there as a suddenly gigantic by comparison Leader class figure. I'll definitely keep the TR figure in the display, but I think the Soundblaster version of the Siege dude is a definite purchase for me now. The only thing is that I love all of the TR cassettes; especially Rumble and Frenzy; and I don't really wanna replace them in my display with the kinda dinky Siege Micromaster versions. I guess they can all coexist on the same shelf. No big deal.

[Hero Alpha]

I got Jetfire about a week ago from Pulse. He is awesome and basically perfect Sunbow G1 Skyfire I always wanted. I love the scale size, transformation, weapons and cool new engineering of the hands along his backpack booster. He looks so good with his Decepticon symbol next to my Planet X WfC Starscream. Just great stuff all around and has me excited for commander class size SkyLynx

More I see Barricade the more I almost want to get him. But I still think I like my TFCC Barricade w/Frenzy slightly more. Already having Prowl and soon Smokescreen in that mould also makes him easier to skip.

Does anyone else think that Spinister may be repainted into Rotorstorm? Thats the only reason I am thinking of holding off getting him.

Also does anyone else think we may get new voyager class Cyclonus and Scourge molds in the next part of this trilogy. Seeing as its a big push for Sunbow G1 accurate Cybertronian alt modes? I would love at least good voyager Scourge.

Apeface and IDW Impactor cant get here soon enough.

[ZeroWolf]

We'd only get scourge and Cyclonus if the bot mode scale needs fixing. Afterall, Hasbro would argue we've just had scourge and Cyclonus in the past few years and one of them had a nigh on perfect G1 alt mode. If we see a new Galvaltron, then we might see those two to correct the scale but otherwise, just play it by here.

[Ultra Markus]

i wonder if they would ever release the other 2 members of each team for example
in the battle patrol Sunrunner and Sidetrack
these new micromasters feel incomplete

[Ultra Markus]

i wonder if they would ever release the other 2 members of each team for example
in the battle patrol Sunrunner and Sidetrack
these new micromasters feel incomplete

[Jelze Bunnycat]

i wonder if they would ever release the other 2 members of each team for example
in the battle patrol Sunrunner and Sidetrack
these new micromasters feel incomplete

Not in the plans I'm afraid. Besides, a third member of the Air Strike Patrol, Nightflight, is in the Micromaster 10 pack as a redeco of Visper.

[AcademyofDrX]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

I will be shocked if we don't get a Sunstreaker in next year's line. I want to complete the '85 Deluxe Cars lineup, and I trust that will happen across the entire WfC line. I'm also happy with TR Blitzwing, though my copy has QC issues with the chest. I wouldn't have thought twice about him, except that Astrotrain is amazing.

I would like to see Generations versions of characters from other media. Barricade was a pleasant surprise, but kind of a one-off. Strongarm needs a high-quality release, and after their appearance in the comics reboot, I would also like to see Shadow Striker and Flamewar.

Honestly, any new fembot molds would be appreciated. I'm glad we got a half dozen across Siege and Selects, but hopefully the next WfC line keeps the gender representation while introducing new designs.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

I actually see Sunstreaker more as a retooling of Wheeljack, with the hood legs and the chest:


Transformers G1 1984 Wheeljack Gallery


Transformers G1 1984 Sunstreaker Gallery

[emlit]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

I actually see Sunstreaker more as a retooling of Wheeljack, with the hood legs and the chest:


Transformers G1 1984 Wheeljack Gallery


Transformers G1 1984 Sunstreaker Gallery

Yeah, I’m familiar with the G1 transformations, I have both original Lambos. I just thought that would be an easy mod for Hasbro rather than a completely new mold. Some have mentioned using the back of the Sideswipe mold ending up as the front of a potential Sunstreaker figure.

Speaking of Wheeljack, that would be another figure I would like to have seen.

[Sabrblade]

[william-james88]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

I actually see Sunstreaker more as a retooling of Wheeljack, with the hood legs and the chest:


Transformers G1 1984 Wheeljack Gallery


Transformers G1 1984 Sunstreaker Gallery

Yeah, I’m familiar with the G1 transformations, I have both original Lambos. I just thought that would be an easy mod for Hasbro rather than a completely new mold. Some have mentioned using the back of the Sideswipe mold ending up as the front of a potential Sunstreaker figure.

Speaking of Wheeljack, that would be another figure I would like to have seen.

But then the car hood wouldn't be the legs. We have had enough half assed sunstreakers in the past, i am sick to death of him always getting just a placeholder figure.