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ZeroWolf wrote:Thing is you're arguing articulation, but that's arguing legends versus Deluxe which isn't very fair considering price points. You may not agree with the scale but hasbro seems to be sticking with it, so I don't think they'll be Deluxes without major accessories to allow a legend sized bot mode. Personally I'd prefer a boxset via selects freeing up retail wave space for more deserving characters.
Nemesis Primal wrote:Articulation: The level of articulation we're getting on this WFC figures gives them around twice as many points of articulation as a Legends figure (using Ironhide vs Chop Shop as my comparison, I could be wrong depending on the figures), so that would be a welcome improvement.
Nemesis Primal wrote:Popularity: Clearly Hasbro is trying to seed popular/recognizable characters into WFC retail along with the Cogs and the Apefaces and such, and the Insecticons are some of the only G1 Cons left that we didn't get in Siege who are recognizable to a casual-ish audience.
Nemesis Primal wrote:Accessories: Because of the Legends price point, none of the Insecticons got any accessories before, save the T30 release of Shrapnel. Making them at around Refraktor's size would allow for Bombshell, for example, to have his beetle-nose gun, his actual handheld weapon, and possibly if we're lucky, a blast effect compatible cerebro-shell (although they'd probably save that for an exclusive).
Nemesis Primal wrote:The Size Arguement: While the cartoon size chart puts them at Legends size (which I personally don't think should be right, but that's not the point), one also has to remember that the Insecticons were canonically shown to get bigger the more energy they were able to obtain/consume. That means built-in justification for selling bigger figures of them regardless of that scale, just say they're powered up to be more threatening, or that they had more easy access to Energon while on Cybertron on the winning side of the conflict.
Nemesis Primal wrote:Remolds: Depending on the remolding they're willing to do, they could easily get both an Insecticon and a Deluxe Insecticon each from each of the molds, as multiple site users have argued before.
emlit wrote:Stuff
william-james88 wrote:some pretty cool stuff
blackeyedprime wrote:Just like reflector being out of scale its all a matter of which toons/scenes they were in.
Wolfman Jake wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Just like reflector being out of scale its all a matter of which toons/scenes they were in.
Deluxe Class is actually the correct scale for Reflector, according to the original Sunbow scale guides and character artwork. He's consistently shown to be larger than any of the Autobot minicars, Soundwave's minions, and even the Insecticons. They're just about head to head with the standard Autobot cars, a la Sideswipe and Prowl, but still shorter than the "Voyager" sized Decepticons like Soundwave himself, Starscream and co., Shockwave, and, of course, Megatron.
ZeroWolf wrote:The scale guide is the primary resource being used here and is pretty much the be all and end all as far as scale is concerned. So scenes like this are the outlier.
AcademyofDrX wrote:I love the Legends-scale classic Insecticons. I think they're perfect, I don't know how they could be improved as Deluxes. Of course, I'm happy with figures that scale to each other like the toys and don't value cartoon fidelity as much as others.
I desperately want a new Generations Drift and/or Deadlock. I keep looking at the secondary market for the original, but the new Flame Toys Furai release should hold me over until we get a new one.
blackeyedprime wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:The scale guide is the primary resource being used here and is pretty much the be all and end all as far as scale is concerned. So scenes like this are the outlier.
As long as Siege Rumble comes with a box to stand on, out of camera shot, for cartoon accuracy it's all goodthe G1 Tom Cruise.
SpikeyTigertron wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:I love the Legends-scale classic Insecticons. I think they're perfect, I don't know how they could be improved as Deluxes. Of course, I'm happy with figures that scale to each other like the toys and don't value cartoon fidelity as much as others.
I desperately want a new Generations Drift and/or Deadlock. I keep looking at the secondary market for the original, but the new Flame Toys Furai release should hold me over until we get a new one.
I thought legends-ex (?) Deadlock was steadily availible... at least not nearly as rare as the Windblade et all.
It was... when it first came out. Fun Pub had some at about $65, and those lasted all the way up until the TCC Club store had its going-out-of-business sale in 2017, during which all of the Deadlocks saw complete liquidation. By then, other places had either gotten rid of or were likewise selling off the last of their Deadlocks too. Now there's only eBay and other secondary markets to get Deadlock from at exorbitant prices.SpikeyTigertron wrote:I thought legends-ex (?) Deadlock was steadily availible... at least not nearly as rare as the Windblade et all.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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